MAC Prolongwear Collection (September 5, 2013)

[erine1881]

I'm as white as white can be myself (I pretty much fluoresce in the dark and have been known to get sunburnt at 51 degrees North in October!) - and/but my dad's family are jewish and from Eastern Europe, and I think there's some interesting genetic inheritance from that side of my family, and I believe that's where my eye shape comes from.  I also think that part of my resistance to using a fake crease is because I was bullied at school for having non stereotypically European-shaped eyes.

Interesting! Nowadays you never know. I've seen some artists make a fake crease on asian woman with monolids and you don't wanna be nearby when that happens! that's why you need to know how to work with all eye shapes, and most importantly, ask what the client wants! If they want you to create a fake crease, go for it! If not, then work with what they have, and accentuate it! Hell, if everyone had a crease and did the same makeup look, makeup would be boring! My first certification working with mac was on our korean trainer and she asked me to create a crease on her. It taught me straight out the gate that some people will ask for things that you wouldn't normally do, so you need to ask and not just assume.

 

[Erinaceina]

My first certification working with mac was on our korean trainer and she asked me to create a crease on her. It taught me straight out the gate that some people will ask for things that you wouldn't normally do, so you need to ask and not just assume.

Heheh. I totally agree about asking people what they want. When it comes to skin colour, very fair-skinned friends of mine have had artists try to put darker foundation than their skintone on them without asking, just presuming that they want to look more tanned. If someone wants that, fine, but if they don't, they're really not going to be happy when they have to try to blend it out. I have to say that, from what I've seen, my local MAC counter is fantastic at working with what people actually want. This autumn, I really want to get them to do a smoky eye look for me that works with my eye shape. It's something I'd love to be able to rock in the colder months.

 

[erine1881]

Heheh.  I totally agree about asking people what they want.  When it comes to skin colour, very fair-skinned friends of mine have had artists try to put darker foundation than their skintone on them without asking, just presuming that they want to look more tanned.  If someone wants that, fine, but if they don't, they're really not going to be happy when they have to try to blend it out.  I have to say that, from what I've seen, my local MAC counter is fantastic at working with what people actually want.  This autumn, I really want to get them to do a smoky eye look for me that works with my eye shape.  It's something I'd love to be able to rock in the colder months.  

:agree: The same thing applies to eyebrows. People are really sensitive when it comes to their eyebrows. I usually won't touch them unless someone asks me first. Even me just asking them about their eyebrows upsets people a bit. When i still worked at mac, one of the girls would automatically put product in people's brows, and one girl said something to me about it when the artist stepped away to get additional product. She said she felt really uncomfortable with her brows with product in them and didn't know how to tell the artist. She said she never put product in them before and felt they looked overdone, and was surprised that she wasn't asked about them before anything was done first.

 

[shontay07108]

I think it's a good idea for MUA's to ask people what they want before they start, but I also think that as a customer or client, you should take the initiative and express what you like and don't like before getting started. I haven't had anyone touch my face in a long time, but the last few times I was particular about what I wanted or didn't want. When I was at Mac I made sure they knew that I was not afraid of color and to keep Amberlights the hell away from me. I hate that shadow.

 

[luvlydee]

:agree: The same thing applies to eyebrows. People are really sensitive when it comes to their eyebrows. I usually won't touch them unless someone asks me first. Even me just asking them about their eyebrows upsets people a bit. When i still worked at mac, one of the girls would automatically put product in people's brows, and one girl said something to me about it when the artist stepped away to get additional product. She said she felt really uncomfortable with her brows with product in them and didn't know how to tell the artist. She said she never put product in them before and felt they looked overdone, and was surprised that she wasn't asked about them before anything was done first.

I usually let the artist do whatever on my face since i feel like maybe ill learn something i didnt know but that all changed when this one artist just went crazy on my brows. She drew them so thick like hers i was like in shock when she was done. My friend met up with me and was like ummm i like your eye makeup but those brows! Lmao so now i just voice my opinion with it comes to brows. The eyes i only say something if they are pressing too hard on my lids lol. And as long as they dont give me a brown lipstick everything else is a go lol

 

[erine1881]

I think it's a good idea for MUA's to ask people what they want before they start, but I also think that as a customer or client, you should take the initiative and express what you like and don't like before getting started. I haven't had anyone touch my face in a long time, but the last few times I was particular about what I wanted or didn't want. When I was at Mac I made sure they knew that I was not afraid of color and to keep Amberlights the hell away from me. I hate that shadow.

Yes and yes! My first words are always " so what are we doing today?" And at mac customers were always like "well you're the expert." I wanted to wring their neck every time i heard that! GIVE ME SOME DIRECTION!!! They'd tell me where they were going that day/night, what they were wearing, but not one bit about how they normally wear their makeup, if they wanted to try a new colour/look/style, anything! Both sides need to communicate, otherwise no one's gonna be happy.

 

[Monsy]

when I would ask customers what they want they would either say "Kim kardashian look" or "i have no idea" lol

 

[erine1881]

when I would ask customers what they want they would either say "Kim kardashian look" or "i have no idea" lol 

Someone i follow on IG said they started replying "i don't know this Kim K look you speak of". It made people actually have to EXPLAIN shit! I hate Kim K!

 

[Monsy]

the problem is different face features, different eye shape but they still want to look like her. not gonna happen!! ughhh it would made me crazy

 

[ChosenOne]

the problem is different face features, different eye shape but they still want to look like her. not gonna happen!! ughhh it would made me crazy

Just gotta weigh in on this as a MUA myself and say what I always want to say to clients: Sweetie, it's a makeup brush, not a magic wand!

 

[Monsy]

or "I am just MUA not a plastic surgeon " lol

 

[erine1881]

Just gotta weigh in on this as a MUA myself and say what I always want to say to clients: Sweetie, it's a makeup brush, not a magic wand!

or "I am just MUA not a plastic surgeon " lol 

YAAAASSSSSS!!!!!! :lmao:

 

[martiangurll]

My preliminary list is Layin Low, Perky, and Sormy Pink. I have been eyeing Frozen Violet as well. Swatched it in store and it is like a PP version of Moth pressed piggie and would look lovely as a base. I like all the fluidlines too. I will go and swatch next to eye kohls in similar colors so I don't duplicate any first since I like the kohl better; it's just easier on my eye flesh and can go on the waterline.

 

[lyseD]

My preliminary list is Layin Low, Perky, and Sormy Pink. I have been eyeing Frozen Violet as well. Swatched it in store and it is like a PP version of Moth pressed piggie and would look lovely as a base. I like all the fluidlines too. I will go and swatch next to eye kohls in similar colors so I don't duplicate any first since I like the kohl better; it's just easier on my eye flesh and can go on the waterline.

That's good to know -- I really liked moth but wasn't interested in a pigment. Thanks.

 

[Seven Of Nine]

Yesterday I had the opportunity to watch all Paint Pots and eventually bought two: Camel Coat & Tailor Grey. Both are great. CC is brighter than TG.

Clearwater is too dull and insipid.
Perky is too warm for me.
Stormy Pink is nice, but slightly too gray.
Layin 'Low is hardly visible on the eyelid.
Chrome Angel is too bright and trashy.
Constructivist & Rubenesque I have from the permanent collection and they are great.

 

[SavannahLovely]

Eye look using Clearwater (I asked her in the comments). Credit goes to goldengirlmakeupxx on Instagram

 

[shontay07108]

I'm going to have to see these paint pots in person because I don't know what to think anymore. Clearwater seems interesting to me again. Stormy Pink seems like my kind of deal, but I found two wildly different swatches of it. One was like a dirty, grungy purplish grey pink (which I dig) and one was a flat gray looking taupe color (no thanks). So, I'll have to wait and see Thursday.

 

[lilinah]

Quote: Originally Posted by elegant-one
I'm off to go look at a small very cool looking vintage motorcycle for myself

Vrrrooom, Vrrrooom!

 

[lilinah]

As far as taking a picture of myself trying to paint on an eyeliner wing... i'm willing, but i'm not sure if i am capable... I can give it a try in a few days.

 

[SavannahLovely]

It's up!!! EDIT: Omg, wrong thread -___-