Are things seriously this horrible on Specktra?
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Brittni
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I thanked you, but I didnt want people to think I agreed with everything. (Don't even know what the hearts/tempt.... thing is about lol)
However I just wanted to thank you for sharing your opinion even if everyone else disagrees.
About the 100 comments and thanks on some FOTDs versus others, honestly I only thank the FOTDS that I find are pretty, inspiring, unique, etc. I don't thank ones - regardless if the member is popular or not - if I don't like the look. It's that simple.
Originally Posted by Sound Of Vision
I think there are certain groups of people here to stick to each other. Like, one person from some group posts FoTD that is not really special but they get like 100 comments and zillion thanks (why do people thank someone for posting an FotD anyways?), there is no much CC, and when some newbies post fotd (unless they are obvious talent for makeup or really pretty) they don't get much comments. |
I thanked you, but I didnt want people to think I agreed with everything. (Don't even know what the hearts/tempt.... thing is about lol)
However I just wanted to thank you for sharing your opinion even if everyone else disagrees.
About the 100 comments and thanks on some FOTDs versus others, honestly I only thank the FOTDS that I find are pretty, inspiring, unique, etc. I don't thank ones - regardless if the member is popular or not - if I don't like the look. It's that simple.
MAC_Whore
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They are not being "flayed alive". Overdramatic language does not make it anymore than it is, so there is no need for it. Again, they made their comments on a public forum, thus the possibility of public exposure. They made that choice.
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It's unfortunate you feel like that. There is nothing wrong with visiting both forums. I only have an issue with mods and the owner of that site posting veiled jabs in the LJ thread and here on Specktra. It's petty.
| Originally Posted by miz_vee
......About my comment regarding the LJ's authors' defending their opinions - are they active members? Are they aware it's been posted? Are they maybe worried about being flayed alive for their posts that they were likely not expecting to see here?... |
They are not being "flayed alive". Overdramatic language does not make it anymore than it is, so there is no need for it. Again, they made their comments on a public forum, thus the possibility of public exposure. They made that choice.
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| Originally Posted by miz_vee
......... being a member of a censored forum makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong being in both forums. Hence my comment.... |
It's unfortunate you feel like that. There is nothing wrong with visiting both forums. I only have an issue with mods and the owner of that site posting veiled jabs in the LJ thread and here on Specktra. It's petty.
fafinette21
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Ditto on that. I've seen it referenced a couple of times and I'm like "what happened??"
| Originally Posted by Beauty Mark
Will someone explain to me what the devil that is in PM? |
Ditto on that. I've seen it referenced a couple of times and I'm like "what happened??"
Sound Of Vision
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It seems that any kind of criticism is not appreciated here, despite admin's public thread with questions for people to say their opinion.
Of course no one will say what I said, most of the members kiss ass to mods and they are afraid to be put on black list, because, everybody likes to get comments and be praised and plus, being on such forum ensures them publicity and promotion.
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ censorship was *one* of my complaints, and you jumped right onto it? I'm not here to defend ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, owner can do it herself. If this was some kind of war, I wouldn't come here at all. I'm coming here because I'm trying to be objective and unbiased - there are some talented people posting FotDs who I like to see, there are swatches people post...this forum isn't only about Janice+Mods. It's made of people who participate in it.
But ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ isn't first case od censorship, is it? Do you remember Makeup Diversity? You banned 4 members who started Makeup Diversity. Wow, isn't that tolerant? And 3 of those members were even mods on Specktra at the time! You obviously don't like competition and take care of that by censoring people.
And to that person who's name I didn't remember but said I should grow up - that's exactly whar I was saying about the forum. This forum was supposed to be solely for makeup lovers to share ideas and enjoy together not little popularity contest.
I didn't think Thanks thing will be such controversy - but I see people thanking each other for so many things. So it becomes like a prestige thing, who has more. Not even inspiring, not really useful, not really wise posts... I just thought it's meant to be useful. I thank person who's tutorial i liked, swatches they posted...and I also thank person who's FoTD inspired me. But people can thank anyone they want. For example, one mod thanks other mod just as a support in their claims.
Knowing your policy, should I expect my account to be suspended next time I come here? Although, I was never rude to anyone, flaming or trolling...?
And just a photo that's been circulating around the net about specktra's bannings...
Of course no one will say what I said, most of the members kiss ass to mods and they are afraid to be put on black list, because, everybody likes to get comments and be praised and plus, being on such forum ensures them publicity and promotion.
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ censorship was *one* of my complaints, and you jumped right onto it? I'm not here to defend ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, owner can do it herself. If this was some kind of war, I wouldn't come here at all. I'm coming here because I'm trying to be objective and unbiased - there are some talented people posting FotDs who I like to see, there are swatches people post...this forum isn't only about Janice+Mods. It's made of people who participate in it.
But ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ isn't first case od censorship, is it? Do you remember Makeup Diversity? You banned 4 members who started Makeup Diversity. Wow, isn't that tolerant? And 3 of those members were even mods on Specktra at the time! You obviously don't like competition and take care of that by censoring people.
And to that person who's name I didn't remember but said I should grow up - that's exactly whar I was saying about the forum. This forum was supposed to be solely for makeup lovers to share ideas and enjoy together not little popularity contest.
I didn't think Thanks thing will be such controversy - but I see people thanking each other for so many things. So it becomes like a prestige thing, who has more. Not even inspiring, not really useful, not really wise posts... I just thought it's meant to be useful. I thank person who's tutorial i liked, swatches they posted...and I also thank person who's FoTD inspired me. But people can thank anyone they want. For example, one mod thanks other mod just as a support in their claims.
Knowing your policy, should I expect my account to be suspended next time I come here? Although, I was never rude to anyone, flaming or trolling...?
And just a photo that's been circulating around the net about specktra's bannings...
MAC_Whore
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I was watching this thinking, "Damn, these guys are hardcore." Then I realized if I just replaced the little warrior dudes with eye shadows.....that's us. lol
MMMAAAAACCC Whhorrree Jennnkkkinnnss!!!!11!1!
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...YouTube - leroy jenkins |
I was watching this thinking, "Damn, these guys are hardcore." Then I realized if I just replaced the little warrior dudes with eye shadows.....that's us. lol
MMMAAAAACCC Whhorrree Jennnkkkinnnss!!!!11!1!
k.a.t
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I don't really want to get involved in this since i don't really know the whole story, i'd just like to say that i love this place though i'm still a lil bit in the shadows (through my own choice) and that i have never been to a nicer forum before. I don't understand how someone can think this is a bad thing?
I know for a fact (well from what i've seen) that the members here are genuinly kind-hearted and have nothing but good intentions. I have never felt ignored, unwelcomed or disrespected.
MAC_Whore
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Specktra does have a TOS. If you do not follow the TOS, you can be banned. That is no secret. Most sites have that same measure in place, so I don't see how that screenshot makes any kind of statment or is in any way controversial.
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Like we said, anyone is free to visit whatever site they wish. Makeup Diversity is another case of members breaking the TOS and unethical behaviour. Why is that when someone behaves badly on this site and they are banned, it's unacceptable behaviour on our part? The amount of members that have been banned for violating the TOS is so small. Why pick at it? They behaved badly, they made a choice.
| Originally Posted by Sound Of Vision
......Knowing your policy, should I expect my account to be suspended next time I come here? Although, I was never rude to anyone, flaming or trolling...? And just a photo that's been circulating around the net about specktra's bannings...
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Specktra does have a TOS. If you do not follow the TOS, you can be banned. That is no secret. Most sites have that same measure in place, so I don't see how that screenshot makes any kind of statment or is in any way controversial.
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| Originally Posted by Sound Of Vision
...But ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ isn't first case od censorship, is it? Do you remember Makeup Diversity? You banned 4 members who started Makeup Diversity. Wow, isn't that tolerant? And 3 of those members were even mods on Specktra at the time! You obviously don't like competition and take care of that by censoring people....... |
Like we said, anyone is free to visit whatever site they wish. Makeup Diversity is another case of members breaking the TOS and unethical behaviour. Why is that when someone behaves badly on this site and they are banned, it's unacceptable behaviour on our part? The amount of members that have been banned for violating the TOS is so small. Why pick at it? They behaved badly, they made a choice.
Shimmer
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That's something you don't have 100% of the entire story to.
Making assumptions about the situation certainly doesn't help, particularly when there is always behind the scenes action that isn't made available to the public.
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I would so much rather see the 'thanks' button being employed vs uncountable and innumerable posts of "iawtc" and "agreed" and "indeed". Keeps the forum tidier, all that.
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Specktra has never had a policy of rampant bannings. Insinuating otherwise is ludicrous.
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The TOS of most any site addresses this type of situation.
| Originally Posted by Sound Of Vision
But ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ isn't first case od censorship, is it? Do you remember Makeup Diversity? You banned 4 members who started Makeup Diversity. Wow, isn't that tolerant? And 3 of those members were even mods on Specktra at the time! You obviously don't like competition and take care of that by censoring people. |
That's something you don't have 100% of the entire story to.
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| And to that person who's name I didn't remember but said I should grow up - that's exactly whar I was saying about the forum. This forum was supposed to be solely for makeup lovers to share ideas and enjoy together not little popularity contest. I didn't think Thanks thing will be such controversy - but I see people thanking each other for so many things. So it becomes like a prestige thing, who has more. Not even inspiring, not really useful, not really wise posts... I just thought it's meant to be useful. I thank person who's tutorial i liked, swatches they posted...and I also thank person who's FoTD inspired me. But people can thank anyone they want. For example, one mod thanks other mod just as a support in their claims. |
I would so much rather see the 'thanks' button being employed vs uncountable and innumerable posts of "iawtc" and "agreed" and "indeed". Keeps the forum tidier, all that.
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| Knowing your policy, should I expect my account to be suspended next time I come here? Although, I was never rude to anyone, flaming or trolling...? |
Specktra has never had a policy of rampant bannings. Insinuating otherwise is ludicrous.
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| And just a photo that's been circulating around the net about specktra's bannings...
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The TOS of most any site addresses this type of situation.
Sound Of Vision
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Brittni, thank you for Thank you, but I don't think anything I said here is really worthy thanking. If I gave you important information, or made helpful tutorial or gave you advice, that's what I personally think Thanks are for.
And I think you're the only one who's thanking, as anybody who thanks me will seem to be on my side and 'against' specktra how people seem to understood my comments. But you explained why you thanked so you're off the hook
I'm always for nice intelligent discussion, but I don't like when people jump on you and start claiming you're wrong and try to force their opinion like it's the only and right one. That is not discussion. I appreciate other people's points and I try to understand if it's not something that I agree with. I can now thanks Shimmer or MAC_Whore or Janice because they made some valuable posts in certain threads that I think are intelligent point in discussion. It doesn't matter as long as there's freedom to say it and not being attacked for it.
| Originally Posted by Brittni
I thanked you, but I didnt want people to think I agreed with everything. (Don't even know what the hearts/tempt.... thing is about lol) However I just wanted to thank you for sharing your opinion even if everyone else disagrees. About the 100 comments and thanks on some FOTDs versus others, honestly I only thank the FOTDS that I find are pretty, inspiring, unique, etc. I don't thank ones - regardless if the member is popular or not - if I don't like the look. It's that simple. |
Brittni, thank you for Thank you, but I don't think anything I said here is really worthy thanking. If I gave you important information, or made helpful tutorial or gave you advice, that's what I personally think Thanks are for.
And I think you're the only one who's thanking, as anybody who thanks me will seem to be on my side and 'against' specktra how people seem to understood my comments. But you explained why you thanked so you're off the hook
I'm always for nice intelligent discussion, but I don't like when people jump on you and start claiming you're wrong and try to force their opinion like it's the only and right one. That is not discussion. I appreciate other people's points and I try to understand if it's not something that I agree with. I can now thanks Shimmer or MAC_Whore or Janice because they made some valuable posts in certain threads that I think are intelligent point in discussion. It doesn't matter as long as there's freedom to say it and not being attacked for it.
darkishstar
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I don't understand one thing though. Why is anyone being nice automatically an ass-kisser? Can't people be genuinely nice? I thought people were just being nice, I never thought it was ass-kissing. O_O?
And then if someone's not ass-kissing or whatever, people on Specktra are automatically mean then?
Seems like these kind of statements just means that everyone on Specktra is either:
1. Not genuinely nice.
2. Or just genuinely mean.
I think that's being unfair and really just seeing everyone as how they want to see, i.e. in a bad light no matter what. Basically, Specktra people can't win if they are nice or mean. Which kinda sucks you know.
And then if someone's not ass-kissing or whatever, people on Specktra are automatically mean then?
Seems like these kind of statements just means that everyone on Specktra is either:
1. Not genuinely nice.
2. Or just genuinely mean.
I think that's being unfair and really just seeing everyone as how they want to see, i.e. in a bad light no matter what. Basically, Specktra people can't win if they are nice or mean. Which kinda sucks you know.
Shimmer
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The thing about forums is that there are always subforums and 'OT' type forums that fill different needs.
Talking about makeup and gossip 24/7 is enough to satisfy some people. Kudos to them. Other people want to be able to discuss a variation of topics with people they know are intelligent and capable of stringing words together coherently.
There's no reason for the latter to be denied the privilege of discussion because the former isn't interested. It's really really really simple. If a member doesn't want to talk about anything but makeup and all things makeup related all the time...don't click or enter the subforums specifically created for non-makeup discussion.
Talking about makeup and gossip 24/7 is enough to satisfy some people. Kudos to them. Other people want to be able to discuss a variation of topics with people they know are intelligent and capable of stringing words together coherently.
There's no reason for the latter to be denied the privilege of discussion because the former isn't interested. It's really really really simple. If a member doesn't want to talk about anything but makeup and all things makeup related all the time...don't click or enter the subforums specifically created for non-makeup discussion.
Shimmer
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Then don't use it in any other situation besides the ones you've mentioned. No one's forcing you, or anyone else, to click the mouse. o.0
| Originally Posted by Sound Of Vision
Brittni, thank you for Thank you, but I don't think anything I said here is really worthy thanking. If I gave you important information, or made helpful tutorial or gave you advice, that's what I personally think Thanks are for. |
Then don't use it in any other situation besides the ones you've mentioned. No one's forcing you, or anyone else, to click the mouse. o.0
*Stargazer*
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I've seen that screenshot in different forms for different forums.
It's simple enough. Don't be a dick and follow the TOS you agreed to when you signed up for an account and you probably will never see that image yourself.
| Originally Posted by MAC_Whore
Specktra does have a TOS. If you do not follow the TOS, you can be banned. That is no secret. Most sites have that same measure in place, so I don't see how that screenshot makes any kind of statment or is in any way controversial. |
I've seen that screenshot in different forms for different forums.
It's simple enough. Don't be a dick and follow the TOS you agreed to when you signed up for an account and you probably will never see that image yourself.
k.a.t
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That's exactly what i don't understand myself..
Oh and forgive me for thanking your post...it's so not worthy of a thank you..
| Originally Posted by darkishstar
I don't understand one thing though. Why is anyone being nice automatically an ass-kisser? Can't people be genuinely nice? I thought people were just being nice, I never thought it was ass-kissing. O_O? And then if someone's not ass-kissing or whatever, people on Specktra are automatically mean then? Seems like these kind of statements just means that everyone on Specktra is either: 1. Not genuinely nice. 2. Or just genuinely mean. I think that's being unfair and really just seeing everyone as how they want to see, i.e. in a bad light no matter what. Basically, Specktra can't win if they are nice or mean. Which kinda sucks you know. |
That's exactly what i don't understand myself..
Oh and forgive me for thanking your post...it's so not worthy of a thank you..
Sound Of Vision
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I didn't say that everybody who is nice is ass kisser. Did I say that anywhere? There are a LOT of members here, and most of them are nice, but not everyone can be nice, right?
By those 2 points you said makes things black or white, and they almost never are.
And why win and lose talk? Is it some kind of competition?
| Originally Posted by darkishstar
I don't understand one thing though. Why is anyone being nice automatically an ass-kisser? Can't people be genuinely nice? I thought people were just being nice, I never thought it was ass-kissing. O_O? And then if someone's not ass-kissing or whatever, people on Specktra are automatically mean then? Seems like these kind of statements just means that everyone on Specktra is either: 1. Not genuinely nice. 2. Or just genuinely mean. I think that's being unfair and really just seeing everyone as how they want to see, i.e. in a bad light no matter what. Basically, Specktra can't win if they are nice or mean. Which kinda sucks you know. |
I didn't say that everybody who is nice is ass kisser. Did I say that anywhere? There are a LOT of members here, and most of them are nice, but not everyone can be nice, right?
By those 2 points you said makes things black or white, and they almost never are.
And why win and lose talk? Is it some kind of competition?
Trunkmonkey
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Specktra is MUCH nicer than I was when I admin'd a dating site. You got three strikes and I'd slap you with the ban hammer. No reason, no discussion, and if you came back as a shade account, I'd ban your ip. At least here you get some latitude. Coming on to a site and mentioning another site that competes for the same audience on one of my sites? You'd be history the first time. It was in the TOS and I never hesitated to use it.
| Originally Posted by Sound Of Vision
It seems that any kind of criticism is not appreciated here, despite admin's public thread with questions for people to say their opinion. Of course no one will say what I said, most of the members kiss ass to mods and they are afraid to be put on black list, because, everybody likes to get comments and be praised and plus, being on such forum ensures them publicity and promotion. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ censorship was *one* of my complaints, and you jumped right onto it? I'm not here to defend ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, owner can do it herself. If this was some kind of war, I wouldn't come here at all. I'm coming here because I'm trying to be objective and unbiased - there are some talented people posting FotDs who I like to see, there are swatches people post...this forum isn't only about Janice+Mods. It's made of people who participate in it. But ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ isn't first case od censorship, is it? Do you remember Makeup Diversity? You banned 4 members who started Makeup Diversity. Wow, isn't that tolerant? And 3 of those members were even mods on Specktra at the time! You obviously don't like competition and take care of that by censoring people. And to that person who's name I didn't remember but said I should grow up - that's exactly whar I was saying about the forum. This forum was supposed to be solely for makeup lovers to share ideas and enjoy together not little popularity contest. I didn't think Thanks thing will be such controversy - but I see people thanking each other for so many things. So it becomes like a prestige thing, who has more. Not even inspiring, not really useful, not really wise posts... I just thought it's meant to be useful. I thank person who's tutorial i liked, swatches they posted...and I also thank person who's FoTD inspired me. But people can thank anyone they want. For example, one mod thanks other mod just as a support in their claims. Knowing your policy, should I expect my account to be suspended next time I come here? Although, I was never rude to anyone, flaming or trolling...? And just a photo that's been circulating around the net about specktra's bannings...
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Specktra is MUCH nicer than I was when I admin'd a dating site. You got three strikes and I'd slap you with the ban hammer. No reason, no discussion, and if you came back as a shade account, I'd ban your ip. At least here you get some latitude. Coming on to a site and mentioning another site that competes for the same audience on one of my sites? You'd be history the first time. It was in the TOS and I never hesitated to use it.
Beauty Mark
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Not everyone can be nice, but perhaps the people who see things they don't like don't want to say anything? It's not peer pressure to say only nice people, some just don't genuinely feel comfortable saying anything negative
Professor Fate
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If you are going to use sarcasm, at least use proper grammar.
| Originally Posted by miz_vee
Professor Fate - thanks for the super fantastic reply! You're too sweet.
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If you are going to use sarcasm, at least use proper grammar.
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