Are things seriously this horrible on Specktra?

[Sound Of Vision]

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Originally Posted by *Stargazer* You know what I don't get? I don't get disliking something so intensely that you stick around. I don't get disliking something so intensely that you leave, but continue to harp on how much you dislike it. I don't get disliking something so intensely that you leave but begin to SCREAM AND CRY AND WHINE like a baby about the thing you dislike. Seriously. I HATE one of my ex BFs. So I left him. And that was that. 10 years later, I'm not still talking about him and what a dick he was. (Well, I guess I am now, but you get me.) What a waste that would be.

If this is about me, I already pointed out why I'm here. And I'm not bitching and whining. I thought if Janice posted public question for everybody I'd speak my mind.

*sigh* I see there's no point in commenting here, because I already said what I had to say many times, and people keep missing the point. Why bothering? It won't change. So I'll just leave you so you can leave peaceful, loving and perfect comments here.

I'll go watch ladies posting beautiful colors on their eyes.

 

[MAC_Whore]

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Originally Posted by miz_vee ....This is not a forum war, IMO.....

It is and always has been a discussion. Use of the term "war" when talking about two internet sites is kind of over the top.

 

[duckduck]

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Originally Posted by Sound Of Vision You posted here because you saw those negative comments on LJ right? And if I got it right, you posted this thread so people could tell you what appears to be wrong, right? So I posted a comment saying what I think might be wrong. If I hated this place I wouldn't even bother commenting or I'd post something rude (actually, I doubt that, I'm not that type, but let's say). And then people jumped at me. I have different opinion than most of the people who commented here, and I'm being attacked because of it. So people are not allowed to say anything negative i.e. have different opinion. If I was SO wrong, why would those people at LJ say that? I'm not the only one it seems.

I do agree that you posted a comment about what you thought was wrong, but most of us responded with well thought-out discussion in return. Personally, I am a bit offended that instead of responding to any of that, you listened to the one or two people who were less than polite and spent all of your energy spatting with them. Every internet board is gonna have a couple of people who will say "attacking" things. This is when the mods should step in (and they did) to say, "hey, let's be civil here." So if you want intelligent discussion, leave those people to the mods and talk to the people who are trying to discuss with you.

So, I believe I addressed some of your points in my earlier post, and I would like to hear what your thoughts were on that, as well as any points which you feel have gone unaddressed. I am actually trying to understand your point of view, and I think most others on here are as well.

 

[fafinette21]

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Originally Posted by MAC_Whore It is and always has been a discussion. Use of the term "war" when talking about two internet sites is kind of over the top.

You remind me of Dr. Phil

*silently hoping you don't hate him*

He's all about keeping the vocabulary neutral. It's true though, dramatic words lead to drama being played out.

 

[MAC_Whore]

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Originally Posted by Sound Of Vision If this is about me, I already pointed out why I'm here. And I'm not bitching and whining. I thought if Janice posted public question for everybody I'd speak my mind. *sigh* I see there's no point in commenting here, because I already said what I had to say many times, and people keep missing the point. Why bothering? It won't change. So I'll just leave you so you can leave peaceful, loving and perfect comments here. I'll go watch ladies posting beautiful colors on their eyes.

This isn't about you at all. In fact, I have enjoyed your contributions to the site.

If everyone is missing the point, doesn't that say something about the point that is being made?

As far as "peaceful, loving and perfect comments", I have the address of a website where happy, sterilized, methadone-like, syrupy comments run freely. Personally, I would rather have lively discourse and reality.

 

[MAC_Whore]

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Originally Posted by fafinette21 You remind me of Dr. Phil *silently hoping you don't hate him* He's all about keeping the vocabulary neutral. It's true though, dramatic words lead to drama being played out.

It's all good. As long as you don't say I look like Dr. Phil. lol

 

[miz_vee]

Being unable to say a word, or name in this case, IS censorship. Whether or not it's a private website. I respect your right to not want it written on the site, just as I'm sure you respect my right to not like it as I'm a member of both. And there's nothing wrong with that.

I feel like any point I might make is undermined by the fact that I'm a mod elsewhere. And even by saying that now, I know I'm bring that website into it. Therefore, why should I continue??

Debates can sometimes be "over the top" when it comes to trying to make a point. I'm not being uncivil, though I understand why you don't like my choice of words.

 

[rbella]

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Originally Posted by miz_vee Being unable to say a word, or name in this case, IS censorship. Whether or not it's a private website. I respect your right to not want it written on the site, just as I'm sure you respect my right to not like it as I'm a member of both. And there's nothing wrong with that. I feel like any point I might make is undermined by the fact that I'm a mod elsewhere. And even by saying that now, I know I'm bring that website into it. Therefore, why should I continue?? Debates can sometimes be "over the top" when it comes to trying to make a point. I'm not being uncivil, though I understand why you don't like my choice of words.

But, if it's a privately owned website, then the censorship is to the discretion of the owner isn't it? You don't have to like it, it's not really your call to try and change it. JMO.

 

[MAC_Whore]

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Originally Posted by miz_vee Being unable to say a word, or name in this case, IS censorship...

cen·sor·ship [ sénssər shìp ] noun

Definition:

1. suppression of published or broadcast material: the suppression of all or part of a play, movie, letter, or publication considered offensive or a threat to security


2. suppression of something objectionable: the suppression or attempted suppression of something regarded as objectionable

No one is censoring you. No one is suppressing your message. You are stating your message and it is being displayed and debated.

The fact that we chose not to deal with ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ (and yeah, you still know who that is) is a consequence of her previous actions. It is unfortunate, but again, if someone behaves badly, we are not the bad guys for reacting accordingly.

 

[duckduck]

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Originally Posted by miz_vee Being unable to say a word, or name in this case, IS censorship. Whether or not it's a private website. I respect your right to not want it written on the site, just as I'm sure you respect my right to not like it as I'm a member of both. And there's nothing wrong with that.

I think you make a valid point. It probably won't change anything, but we were asked for opinions, and you gave yours in a respectful, reasonable manner.

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Originally Posted by miz_vee I feel like any point I might make is undermined by the fact that I'm a mod elsewhere. And even by saying that now, I know I'm bring that website into it. Therefore, why should I continue?? Debates can sometimes be "over the top" when it comes to trying to make a point. I'm not being uncivil, though I understand why you don't like my choice of words.

Eh, I think the point is more undermined by the fact that:
a. It is a subject that is very important to the people who run the site, and
b. it doesn't really affect 99.9% of Specktra members

 

[feenin4makeup]

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Originally Posted by rbella ^^^I rock the quad, daily.

You are hilarious! Do I need to take you on a bra fitting excursion?? LOL

 

[*Stargazer*]

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Originally Posted by rbella Thank you. I need as much support as I can get. Please bring a good, sturdy bra for that as well.

I just had to buy 40DDs yesterday. (Ugh, btw, ugh) We can shelter a small town in those bras. Support, I haz it.

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Originally Posted by Sound Of Vision If this is about me, I already pointed out why I'm here. And I'm not bitching and whining.

No, sorry, it wasn't about you. It was a general musing on the original LJ comments. I'm still somewhat puzzled by them, however many days later this is.

 

[lipshock]

This thread is EPIC.

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RE: the comment thing. Who gives a rat's ass if someone posts a FOTD and they get 100 comments and another individual only gets 10, 20, 40, and so forth. I don't think people post FOTDs to see how many comments they can get. I thought FOTDs were more for inspirational purposes and whatnot . . not some stupid popularity contest. Individuals will posts comments when they feel like it. People shouldn't be using how many comments their FOTDs receives as some sort of self-validation or whatever.

This could be put more eloquently but I'm hungry.

 

[blindpassion]

*blindpassion runs in to shuffle rbella off to a nice, warm, safe place.*

 

[Simply Elegant]

About the number of comments, some newbies (not all) might feel like it's not worth the effort if it's not going to be as recognized. Just a guess.

Anyway, when I said that Specktra isn't the friendliest forum I've visited, some parts of a few posts really reflect that in this thread, specifically some name calling. Before that happened, I was referring to some of the threads in the deep thoughts board, with emphasis on one of the abortion threads. It's nice to be able to participate in intellectual debates but parts of it seemed to be vicious from certain members. I wasn't going to answer this because I didn't want to add to the drama that I thought this thread would create but it's too late now I suppose.

 

[rbella]

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Originally Posted by lipshock This thread is EPIC. .... RE: the comment thing. Who gives a rat's ass if someone posts a FOTD and they get 100 comments and another individual only gets 10, 20, 40, and so forth. I don't think people post FOTDs to see how many comments they can get. I thought FOTDs were more for inspirational purposes and whatnot . . not some stupid popularity contest. Individuals will posts comments when they feel like it. People shouldn't be using how many comments their FOTDs receives as some sort of self-validation or whatever.

Your avatar still makes me laugh my ass off. I'm glad you responded so I could look at it again.

Ok, Blind-I'm going back to safe place again....

 

[lipshock]

^^^

rbella, don't forget your Cher doll in your safe place. :]

 

[chocolategoddes]

RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!!

 

[pretebrowneyes]

WOW....this thread has been on a friggin rollercoaster ride man. I know this is my first post and I'm all in the kool aid not totally knowing the favor but still...ROLLER COASTER!

PS....I rock the quad, the mono, the twins with double chins...all them shizzes. Rock on ladies. over and out

PSS..love to Specktra and all things makeup, done and done

 

[fafinette21]

I don't think this thread is evidence of the fact that those comments are justified. If I recall correctly there was only one, MAYBE two people whose comments were unwarranted. How many others commented without resorting to that? Almost all.

Discussions are bound to get heated in Deep Thoughts, that's the nature of that forum. When you are having a conversation about topics that people feel strongly about there is likely going to be passionate responses. In case they get out of hand, that's what the mods are there for, and I've found the mods to be quite capable of regulating behaviour.

The thing is, on this forum, I believe you don't have to be afraid of having intense discussions with people. Even though they might not like your point of view on a certain topic, they aren't going to go look at your FOTDs and say "omg that is SO ugly". People don't carry around grudges here, like they do on other forums.

I think the only reason why some people feel they are being "attacked" is because they are in a minority. When you have two people versus twenty people disagreeing with you, it's likely that you will feel "ganged up on" even when it isn't true.