Are things seriously this horrible on Specktra?
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angeliquea~+
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Are these girls smoking the drapes or something? Take a look around at some of the threads on here and the show of support Specktra members give to each other, especially when a member has a problem or is in a time of need. I've never been on Lame Journal before but if the boards there are half as friendly and supportive as here, I'll eat my keyboard.
Briar
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'sokay, you're a lovely werido. I'm totally a weirdo too so I get it. As to my comment about people with a more punky look, I'm not sure they disappeared because of lack of support, its just a possibility. Maybe, unlike myself, they actually have a life.
I don't belong to too many forums, mostly because of the negativity. I stay here and the few others I belong to exactly because they don't contain that kind of stuff. I really don't want to read a ton of posts of people putting each other down, I'm a positive person in general, I don't have time to bog myself down in crap.
Originally Posted by lizardprincesa
I woudn't class myself as "punky," (maybe sometimes ?) but I definitely don't think I'm....hmmm...Well, late's face it - I'm a weirdo. I don't have a label, altho several may fit. 
I have received nothing but sweet, encouraging, and affirming responses from other posters. People have been absolutely wonderful to me when I've posted my photos & odd little stories. ( & thank you, angels. 
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'sokay, you're a lovely werido. I'm totally a weirdo too so I get it. As to my comment about people with a more punky look, I'm not sure they disappeared because of lack of support, its just a possibility. Maybe, unlike myself, they actually have a life.
I don't belong to too many forums, mostly because of the negativity. I stay here and the few others I belong to exactly because they don't contain that kind of stuff. I really don't want to read a ton of posts of people putting each other down, I'm a positive person in general, I don't have time to bog myself down in crap.
lizardprincesa
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Yours is one of the sweetest compliments I've ever received.
Thank you!
I am a lovely weirdo...singing to myself & smiling.
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| Originally Posted by Briar
'sokay, you're a lovely werido. |
Yours is one of the sweetest compliments I've ever received.
I am a lovely weirdo...singing to myself & smiling.
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| I'm totally a weirdo too so I get it. |
You're a sweetHeart. !
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| As to my comment about people with a more punky look, I'm not sure they disappeared because of lack of support, its just a possibility. Maybe, unlike myself, they actually have a life.
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That's a wonderful thought. Maybe so!
& you *do* have a Life.
& you *do* have a Life.
You do sound like a positive, kind person...
You're one of the people who makes Specktra so Rich.
xxxxCherylFaithxxxx
You're one of the people who makes Specktra so Rich.
xxxxCherylFaithxxxx
Krasevayadancer
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Ok, I have to- get a room Jamie and Jenn! I want to see this whip and chains u 2 are talking about.
In all seriousness come on, how awesome are our mods?!
In all seriousness come on, how awesome are our mods?!
BenefitAddict
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That one goes on a lot. I'm new here, and it seems kind of annoying how a lot of people were thanked like 9,000 times, are quick to post swatches, and have every single product on the market. It's just intimidating.
EDIT: AND the same people always have already gone to MAC training and they are professional MAC artists and they have most of the colors memorized.
| It's just everytime I've posted there I think because I don't have 438240280 posts they think I know nothing about mac and talk to me like an idiot. |
That one goes on a lot. I'm new here, and it seems kind of annoying how a lot of people were thanked like 9,000 times, are quick to post swatches, and have every single product on the market. It's just intimidating.
EDIT: AND the same people always have already gone to MAC training and they are professional MAC artists and they have most of the colors memorized.
Susanne
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We are 37,885 members here - they probably can't be all professional MAC artists.
I started here 9 months ago, not beeing a MAC artists and not having English as my first language. And nevertheless it wasn't difficult at all to become an accepted member here!
It is the mixture of all people here that makes Specktra so special and I am so thankful we have all the MAs here who are very helpful if you need them
If you want you can be a part of this here as well soon - it is up to you! Everyone is welcomed.
| Originally Posted by BenefitAddict
That one goes on a lot. I'm new here, and it seems kind of annoying how a lot of people were thanked like 9,000 times, are quick to post swatches, and have every single product on the market. It's just intimidating. EDIT: AND the same people always have already gone to MAC training and they are professional MAC artists and they have most of the colors memorized. |
We are 37,885 members here - they probably can't be all professional MAC artists.
I started here 9 months ago, not beeing a MAC artists and not having English as my first language. And nevertheless it wasn't difficult at all to become an accepted member here!
It is the mixture of all people here that makes Specktra so special and I am so thankful we have all the MAs here who are very helpful if you need them
If you want you can be a part of this here as well soon - it is up to you! Everyone is welcomed.
red
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One important thing, that we shouldn’t lose sight of, is that we’re a multi-cultural, multi-national community with different ways of communicating and expressing ourselves. What may be considered rude (or abrupt) in one culture may be totally accepted and normal behavior in another. So when that Aussie (as an example) is acting like a hussie LOL LOL .. I don’t say “what the f—K”, but I smile and giggle instead, because she’s just being natural :-D
Beauty Mark
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I don't think the swatch thing is so bad... I like seeing well-photographed swatches, because sometimes I'm too lazy to trek to MAC or Sephora. I think everyone is simply trying to be helpful. I can say most, if not all, of the people who are posting are simply very enthusiastic about the product and aren't trying to show off. They want to be helpful. One of the nicest things I notice about people here is regardless of skill, everyone seems to be pretty encouraging.
I think it depends on the what kinds of questions are posted to how people react. There are certain questions I would think someone was relatively new to a brand would ask. Stuff like "What's my color in this foundation?" or "How does a formula wear?" I think sometimes writing comes off as dismissive and harsher than intended; we can't hear tone, and most of us aren't reading over every word to make the posts articulate.
| Originally Posted by BenefitAddict
That one goes on a lot. I'm new here, and it seems kind of annoying how a lot of people were thanked like 9,000 times, are quick to post swatches, and have every single product on the market. It's just intimidating. EDIT: AND the same people always have already gone to MAC training and they are professional MAC artists and they have most of the colors memorized. |
I don't think the swatch thing is so bad... I like seeing well-photographed swatches, because sometimes I'm too lazy to trek to MAC or Sephora. I think everyone is simply trying to be helpful. I can say most, if not all, of the people who are posting are simply very enthusiastic about the product and aren't trying to show off. They want to be helpful. One of the nicest things I notice about people here is regardless of skill, everyone seems to be pretty encouraging.
I think it depends on the what kinds of questions are posted to how people react. There are certain questions I would think someone was relatively new to a brand would ask. Stuff like "What's my color in this foundation?" or "How does a formula wear?" I think sometimes writing comes off as dismissive and harsher than intended; we can't hear tone, and most of us aren't reading over every word to make the posts articulate.
kimmy
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i haven't read this entire thread, but i just am reading the lj entry right now and i noticed this:
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don't you have to go into somebody's profile here to see how many posts they've made, as well?
i've never seen a problem here. sure, sometimes you'll see some criticism on fotds or something that wasn't solicited, but that isn't the forum/staff's fault. i can see how some people might be bothered by what's said in the deep thoughts/love & relationships forums, but there are warnings for those...so it's an enter at your descretion thing.
i personally enjoy all my time spent here. i don't think i've ever gotten any response to anything that would make me want to talk shit on specktra. when i first started posting here, my makeup "skills" were awful and i didn't know an nc shade from an nw. these days, i can step to the mac counter (or any other makeup counter, for that matter) and not be fooled into buying something i don't need by an ma who's trying to get their numbers (i know this kind of manipulation by mas is pretty rare, but i encountered it alot before i started checking things out on specktra.)
i've never seen an issue with a social clique. when we all met up in santa monica, i was actually really surprised at how fabulous that went. there were new and old members of the forum, and i didn't sense any kind of animosity or elitism from anyone. i thought it was awesome how excited we all got when we entered the mac store...and how difficult it was for me to remove classic dame/pure vanity and replace it with 2N haha.
and the swatch forum is a dream come true.
look how much i just rambled right now. i must really love specktra/specktrettes.
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| But honestly, I doubt ANYONE would go through the hassle of opening someone's profile just to look at how many comments they've made. LOL. "post count" isn't a big deal on LJ, it seems to only be a big deal on actual message boards. |
don't you have to go into somebody's profile here to see how many posts they've made, as well?
i've never seen a problem here. sure, sometimes you'll see some criticism on fotds or something that wasn't solicited, but that isn't the forum/staff's fault. i can see how some people might be bothered by what's said in the deep thoughts/love & relationships forums, but there are warnings for those...so it's an enter at your descretion thing.
i personally enjoy all my time spent here. i don't think i've ever gotten any response to anything that would make me want to talk shit on specktra. when i first started posting here, my makeup "skills" were awful and i didn't know an nc shade from an nw. these days, i can step to the mac counter (or any other makeup counter, for that matter) and not be fooled into buying something i don't need by an ma who's trying to get their numbers (i know this kind of manipulation by mas is pretty rare, but i encountered it alot before i started checking things out on specktra.)
i've never seen an issue with a social clique. when we all met up in santa monica, i was actually really surprised at how fabulous that went. there were new and old members of the forum, and i didn't sense any kind of animosity or elitism from anyone. i thought it was awesome how excited we all got when we entered the mac store...and how difficult it was for me to remove classic dame/pure vanity and replace it with 2N haha.
and the swatch forum is a dream come true.
look how much i just rambled right now. i must really love specktra/specktrettes.
Mabelle
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eh, like someone said, you can't please everyone. I'm a newbie to specktra, but i think everyone here is very nice an helpful. In fact, i find this a much friendlier atmosphere than some other communities i've visited (specifically those on myspace). I've never been spoken down to. Infact, i've gotten out of line and spoken down to someone and was told that that kinda thing didn't fly around here.
i must admit, i do find it a bit hard to navigate, but i'm really new to the site. It takes some poking around, but it;s worth it.
screw em.
i must admit, i do find it a bit hard to navigate, but i'm really new to the site. It takes some poking around, but it;s worth it.
screw em.
Shimmer
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I don't understand how sharing a swatch and being shown appreciation for it is a bad thing.
Or how someone with massive product knowledge sharing that information is a bad thing.
| Originally Posted by BenefitAddict
That one goes on a lot. I'm new here, and it seems kind of annoying how a lot of people were thanked like 9,000 times, are quick to post swatches, and have every single product on the market. It's just intimidating. EDIT: AND the same people always have already gone to MAC training and they are professional MAC artists and they have most of the colors memorized. |
I don't understand how sharing a swatch and being shown appreciation for it is a bad thing.
Or how someone with massive product knowledge sharing that information is a bad thing.
nelyanaphonexia
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I love Specktra!
I've only been here a few months, cause I lurked around for a while before joining and posting. Most of the people here are really nice and supportive.
I've found amazing info. on MAC and other cosmetics. I've saved some money by buying products from other users and had an overall great experience.
I have to say, that even though the majority of the folks here are great, there were some "misunderstandings" I had with people at first. And I found a couple of flamers right off the bat, mostly because I chose to post in the wrong posts first. So, I was a bit hesitant to post and afraid that people would just yell at me for being 'stupid' and would want me to stop posting here because I had nothing to offer them.
As expressed with some other posters, cultures are different and apparently something I said was taken differently by another user. But, we cleared it up, realized that neither of us was right. We were just different and neither of us meant any harm toward the other. We just grew up in completely different areas with different word meanings.
Maybe I'm too new here to understand this, but I do feel like sometimes there is a bit of a clique issue. Sometimes when I post a question or a new thread, I feel like I get ignored for more 'popular' members who have been here a while. I understand that a lot of people on Specktra have been here for a long time and have tons of friends, but I really would like to be your friend too
...and maybe get some answers to my questions.
But like I said. I love Specktra, I love MAC, and this is the perfect place to learn and share my 'MACsperiances'.
Oh and as far as navigation problems. I actually was an admin on another (music related) forum and this one is SUPER easy to navigate comparatively. So, maybe someone just didn't bother to try and navigate the site and just decided that they didn't wanna try.
I've found amazing info. on MAC and other cosmetics. I've saved some money by buying products from other users and had an overall great experience.
I have to say, that even though the majority of the folks here are great, there were some "misunderstandings" I had with people at first. And I found a couple of flamers right off the bat, mostly because I chose to post in the wrong posts first. So, I was a bit hesitant to post and afraid that people would just yell at me for being 'stupid' and would want me to stop posting here because I had nothing to offer them.
As expressed with some other posters, cultures are different and apparently something I said was taken differently by another user. But, we cleared it up, realized that neither of us was right. We were just different and neither of us meant any harm toward the other. We just grew up in completely different areas with different word meanings.
Maybe I'm too new here to understand this, but I do feel like sometimes there is a bit of a clique issue. Sometimes when I post a question or a new thread, I feel like I get ignored for more 'popular' members who have been here a while. I understand that a lot of people on Specktra have been here for a long time and have tons of friends, but I really would like to be your friend too
But like I said. I love Specktra, I love MAC, and this is the perfect place to learn and share my 'MACsperiances'.
Oh and as far as navigation problems. I actually was an admin on another (music related) forum and this one is SUPER easy to navigate comparatively. So, maybe someone just didn't bother to try and navigate the site and just decided that they didn't wanna try.
jamie89
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Geez.
I have never, ever, EVEEEEEER experienced anything like this! I lurked for a while, unregistered, and then one day decided I wanted to start posting. I posted in the Newbie forum and instantly had tons of "Welcome!"s. I was the most nervous to post a FOTD because I haven't ever done so, not on MUA, not here on Specktra...nowhere. I did and got a great response. Many users replied...those with tons of posts, and new people, like myself! I have found so much information on Specktra, it's unbelievable. I don't understand how it could possibly hard to navigate, especially in comparison to MUA (which I also frequent, so don't think I hate it). When I post there, I feel a hint of elitism, but certainly not here. Specktra is so helpful, to makeup experts, and people just getting started or realizig their love for makeup. It is a fantastic source of information, and I cannot tell you how helpful it has been, or how kind and welcoming the members are.
I have never, ever, EVEEEEEER experienced anything like this! I lurked for a while, unregistered, and then one day decided I wanted to start posting. I posted in the Newbie forum and instantly had tons of "Welcome!"s. I was the most nervous to post a FOTD because I haven't ever done so, not on MUA, not here on Specktra...nowhere. I did and got a great response. Many users replied...those with tons of posts, and new people, like myself! I have found so much information on Specktra, it's unbelievable. I don't understand how it could possibly hard to navigate, especially in comparison to MUA (which I also frequent, so don't think I hate it). When I post there, I feel a hint of elitism, but certainly not here. Specktra is so helpful, to makeup experts, and people just getting started or realizig their love for makeup. It is a fantastic source of information, and I cannot tell you how helpful it has been, or how kind and welcoming the members are.
Kayteuk
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Okay well shoot me down Mods if you don’t like it but I am going to post my 2 cents.
I think this is a great forum, its well designed, well written and most posts are thoughtful and delightful to read.
However I have noticed often we have to “sugar things up” to people instead of telling them flat out “That color isn’t to good on you”. Which can kind of help people out?
The other thing which has irked me a bit, is when people just post “Great haul” for example o “nice fotd” without putting any thought or constructive criticism. Just so they can get the “thank you’s” they need to be seen or heard. You could possibly create social elite here but I think this is a minor problem.
The other issue is….And Janice you know all about this one as I emailed you about it. People deleting posts and then you come back to look for it and its GONE. No mod or admin ever bothers to tell you why it’s gone.
I actually wrote a really long post on my trouble getting a US visa, I was crying, upset and I thought I would come here, as the girls and guys are good here and I had seen posts similar to this up here. And I got some fantastic advice which I was so grateful for, I came back after dinner and my post had gone with no explanation, it fully abided all the guidelines in deep thoughts. And I know a few people have had problems with this. It takes 4 mins to write “Hey I am sorry I had to take down your post, here’s a copy for you to keep if you want to reference it, the reason we took it down was blah blah blah”
On my other message boards no matter how busy I am, I make sure my visitors are taken care of and they know what’s going on 100% of the time. If you can’t find 5 mins out your day to do this, then hire more mods and admins! No one should be stressed out running a board, and a problem shared is a problem cared.
Okay so now someone go delete my post and not tell me why =P I joke I joke!
You cant have everything in life, but I think the reason why people are sometimes hyper critical of spectra is because we are getting pretty close to it ;-) And those people need to take a chill pill who said that, if they don’t want to make an effort then they don’t have to visit.
I think this is a great forum, its well designed, well written and most posts are thoughtful and delightful to read.
However I have noticed often we have to “sugar things up” to people instead of telling them flat out “That color isn’t to good on you”. Which can kind of help people out?
The other thing which has irked me a bit, is when people just post “Great haul” for example o “nice fotd” without putting any thought or constructive criticism. Just so they can get the “thank you’s” they need to be seen or heard. You could possibly create social elite here but I think this is a minor problem.
The other issue is….And Janice you know all about this one as I emailed you about it. People deleting posts and then you come back to look for it and its GONE. No mod or admin ever bothers to tell you why it’s gone.
I actually wrote a really long post on my trouble getting a US visa, I was crying, upset and I thought I would come here, as the girls and guys are good here and I had seen posts similar to this up here. And I got some fantastic advice which I was so grateful for, I came back after dinner and my post had gone with no explanation, it fully abided all the guidelines in deep thoughts. And I know a few people have had problems with this. It takes 4 mins to write “Hey I am sorry I had to take down your post, here’s a copy for you to keep if you want to reference it, the reason we took it down was blah blah blah”
On my other message boards no matter how busy I am, I make sure my visitors are taken care of and they know what’s going on 100% of the time. If you can’t find 5 mins out your day to do this, then hire more mods and admins! No one should be stressed out running a board, and a problem shared is a problem cared.
Okay so now someone go delete my post and not tell me why =P I joke I joke!
You cant have everything in life, but I think the reason why people are sometimes hyper critical of spectra is because we are getting pretty close to it ;-) And those people need to take a chill pill who said that, if they don’t want to make an effort then they don’t have to visit.
fafinette21
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Sorry, forgive me if I'm misunderstanding your point, but are you actually finding fault with the fact that some people have worked hard to gain all their knowledge of MAC and are kind enough to share it with us here? They've been thanked 9000 times because 9000 times, people have found what they said to be helpful. They post swatches so we will be able to see what products actually look like and so we won't buy something we won't like or need. They have every single product on the market because they have been collecting for a long time and probably do without other things so they can continue their love of MAC.
These people are MAC artists because they are skilled and deserve to be. If they have worked hard enough to get to this point, then I say congratulations to them and can only hope to be this informed myself one day.
| Originally Posted by BenefitAddict
That one goes on a lot. I'm new here, and it seems kind of annoying how a lot of people were thanked like 9,000 times, are quick to post swatches, and have every single product on the market. It's just intimidating. EDIT: AND the same people always have already gone to MAC training and they are professional MAC artists and they have most of the colors memorized. |
Sorry, forgive me if I'm misunderstanding your point, but are you actually finding fault with the fact that some people have worked hard to gain all their knowledge of MAC and are kind enough to share it with us here? They've been thanked 9000 times because 9000 times, people have found what they said to be helpful. They post swatches so we will be able to see what products actually look like and so we won't buy something we won't like or need. They have every single product on the market because they have been collecting for a long time and probably do without other things so they can continue their love of MAC.
These people are MAC artists because they are skilled and deserve to be. If they have worked hard enough to get to this point, then I say congratulations to them and can only hope to be this informed myself one day.
Kayteuk
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I think you misunderstood her! I think she meant it could put people off a bit because they have very little, they feel they will be less valued than those who are pro MUA's or have a lot of Mac. I think that whats shes saying rather than attacking people on here.
| Originally Posted by fafinette21
Sorry, forgive me if I'm misunderstanding your point, but are you actually finding fault with the fact that some people have worked hard to gain all their knowledge of MAC and are kind enough to share it with us here? They've been thanked 9000 times because 9000 times, people have found what they said to be helpful. They post swatches so we will be able to see what products actually look like and so we won't buy something we won't like or need. They have every single product on the market because they have been collecting for a long time and probably do without other things so they can continue their love of MAC. These people are MAC artists because they are skilled and deserve to be. If they have worked hard enough to get to this point, then I say congratulations to them and can only hope to be this informed myself one day. |
I think you misunderstood her! I think she meant it could put people off a bit because they have very little, they feel they will be less valued than those who are pro MUA's or have a lot of Mac. I think that whats shes saying rather than attacking people on here.
fafinette21
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I could understand being intimidated, I certainly am sometimes. But she said it was "annoying". I don't know about anyone else but when I see people who have skill and knowledge that took them a long time and effort to get, I don't feel annoyed.
| Originally Posted by Kayteuk
I think you misunderstood her! I think she meant it could put people off a bit because they have very little, they feel they will be less valued than those who are pro MUA's or have a lot of Mac. I think that whats shes saying rather than attacking people on here. |
I could understand being intimidated, I certainly am sometimes. But she said it was "annoying". I don't know about anyone else but when I see people who have skill and knowledge that took them a long time and effort to get, I don't feel annoyed.
blindpassion
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I agree with Fafinette, I very much appreciate the girls and guys with the big collections and the product knowledge. Also, I've always appreciated them taking time out of their day to post swatches of products we are all curious about, those swatches have helped me make decisions time and time again about what I'd like to purchase. And I'm really glad that when people do post swatches, the thanks button is used to reward them and let everyone know how helpful it was, its really awesome of them to take that time
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