Are things seriously this horrible on Specktra?

[Shimmer]

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Originally Posted by Kayteuk The other issue is….And Janice you know all about this one as I emailed you about it. People deleting posts and then you come back to look for it and its GONE. No mod or admin ever bothers to tell you why it’s gone. I actually wrote a really long post on my trouble getting a US visa, I was crying, upset and I thought I would come here, as the girls and guys are good here and I had seen posts similar to this up here. And I got some fantastic advice which I was so grateful for, I came back after dinner and my post had gone with no explanation, it fully abided all the guidelines in deep thoughts. And I know a few people have had problems with this. It takes 4 mins to write “Hey I am sorry I had to take down your post, here’s a copy for you to keep if you want to reference it, the reason we took it down was blah blah blah”

This is actually addressed in the TOS of the site.

 

[Janice]

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Originally Posted by Kayteuk The other issue is….And Janice you know all about this one as I emailed you about it. People deleting posts and then you come back to look for it and its GONE. No mod or admin ever bothers to tell you why it’s gone. I actually wrote a really long post on my trouble getting a US visa, I was crying, upset and I thought I would come here, as the girls and guys are good here and I had seen posts similar to this up here. And I got some fantastic advice which I was so grateful for, I came back after dinner and my post had gone with no explanation, it fully abided all the guidelines in deep thoughts. And I know a few people have had problems with this. It takes 4 mins to write “Hey I am sorry I had to take down your post, here’s a copy for you to keep if you want to reference it, the reason we took it down was blah blah blah”[/size][/font]

I can't find a single trace of your post, none of the staff has reported removing or moving it.

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On my other message boards no matter how busy I am, I make sure my visitors are taken care of and they know what’s going on 100% of the time. If you can’t find 5 mins out your day to do this, then hire more mods and admins! No one should be stressed out running a board, and a problem shared is a problem cared.

I'm glad you are able to accomplish that task on your own forums. While your suggestion seems simple enough, it's not how I work. It takes months of building trust with a member to even consider them for a staff position. I have to trust the persons judgment and personality to handle delicate interpersonal situations with care. It's sort of presumptuous to presume the demands on my time. There is research that goes into situations like yours where I have to speak with other people and look through data logs to find out what happened. Guess what, there is NO RETURN for me on that time, it's completely a labor of love and I have to squeeze it in between professional and personal obligations.

In my signature a list of other people you can contact if you're not satisfied with my response time.

If I can figure out what happened to your post I will let you know, but at this point I am still trying to figure it out.

Thanks for all the love, it's so refreshing to read this thread. It's good to know people are having, for the most part, an enjoyable informative enriching experience at Specktra.

 

[_Ella_]

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Originally Posted by blindpassion I agree with Fafinette, I very much appreciate the girls and guys with the big collections and the product knowledge. Also, I've always appreciated them taking time out of their day to post swatches of products we are all curious about, those swatches have helped me make decisions time and time again about what I'd like to purchase. And I'm really glad that when people do post swatches, the thanks button is used to reward them and let everyone know how helpful it was, its really awesome of them to take that time

I agree with both of you! I really like specktra and everybody is so nice and helpfull here. All those swatches saved me lots of time and effort and I really appreciate all helpfull and fun posts on specktra.

 

[Kayteuk]

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Originally Posted by Janice I can't find a single trace of your post, none of the staff has reported removing or moving it. I'm glad you are able to accomplish that task on your own forums. While your suggestion seems simple enough, it's not how I work. It takes months of building trust with a member to even consider them for a staff position. I have to trust the persons judgment and personality to handle delicate interpersonal situations with care. It's sort of presumptuous to presume the demands on my time. There is research that goes into situations like yours where I have to speak with other people and look through data logs to find out what happened. Guess what, there is NO RETURN for me on that time, it's completely a labor of love and I have to squeeze it in between professional and personal obligations. In my signature a list of other people you can contact if you're not satisfied with my response time. If I can figure out what happened to your post I will let you know, but at this point I am still trying to figure it out. Thanks for all the love, it's so refreshing to read this thread. It's good to know people are having, for the most part, an enjoyable informative enriching experience at Specktra.

I think you Misunderstood me, I was not pointing blame at you, I was just stating that the person who does delete it should take 5 mins out of their day to save you the trouble of looking for it. And I appreciate you looking for it.

But I hope you understood the rest as constructive criticism and didnt cinicise it and then disregard it =) Your a good lass and I know your working your butt off here.

 

[smh28]

I am new to Specktra and the world of forums in general. I am a beginner in the cosmetics department and with MAC products. I was hesitant to join Sepcktra because internet forums get such a bad rap.
Honestly, I am so impressed with this site and the members on it.
Everyone is so friendly and always positive and helpful. Everyone, that I have seen, seems to respect the opinions and differences of others. I have also had no problems navigating this site. I am new to forums but have had no problem learning as I go. Great job to everyone involved in keeping this running.

 

[DominicanBarbie]

I love specktra! enough said.

 

[redambition]

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Originally Posted by BenefitAddict That one goes on a lot. I'm new here, and it seems kind of annoying how a lot of people were thanked like 9,000 times, are quick to post swatches, and have every single product on the market. It's just intimidating. EDIT: AND the same people always have already gone to MAC training and they are professional MAC artists and they have most of the colors memorized.

i think i get what you mean... when i joined up here i knew makeup was pretty, but i owned little of it. i was amazed at some of the collections and colours i saw.

you can feel out of your depth here when you see the collections and knowledge displayed by many of the members. please - don't be scared, we don't bite (unless you want us to. hah!) jump right in... and if my MAC addiction is anything to go by, i predict that soon you will also be able to name many colours off the top of your head

 

[Beauty Mark]

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Maybe I'm too new here to understand this, but I do feel like sometimes there is a bit of a clique issue. Sometimes when I post a question or a new thread, I feel like I get ignored for more 'popular' members who have been here a while. I understand that a lot of people on Specktra have been here for a long time and have tons of friends, but I really would like to be your friend too ...and maybe get some answers to my questions.

I think this perceived clique thing happens because of:

1) Some of the older members are simply tired of answering questions they've seen a lot. That's why there's an "Asked and Answered" section or the search feature.

2) Some members are more comfortable joking with people they know. I haven't met anyone off of Specktra (though I'd like to), but I know I can joke with some people and they won't get offended. It's like if you were the new person at school.

 

[Mabelle]

i dont feel there is anything cliquey here. There are other forums i visit that make no effort to hide the "cool girls club". They can bash you, be rude to you, just try and fling shit and if you so dare at to defend yourself, you get called out and they all jump on you.

Since discovering the wonderufness that is specktra, i've pretty much stopped visiting the other sites. Specktra is heaps friendlier and has way more information.

But i must kind of agree with the poster that said that there doesnt seem to be any CC just "great fotd" comments. I was looking at a post where, well, let's just say it was a bit of a hot mess. Normally i would have spoken up (in the most polite way possible!!) but i'm a noob, and everyone was just ignoring what needed (and i mean needed) to be fixed and said "good blending". I didn't want to be the only one to speak up and risk being called a bitch, or being seen negatively, ya know? i agree that it might create a bit of a hierarchy, but it'll help people out in the long run. "The greater good!!"

 

[Kayteuk]

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Originally Posted by Mabelle But i must kind of agree with the poster that said that there doesnt seem to be any CC just "great fotd" comments. I was looking at a post where, well, let's just say it was a bit of a hot mess. Normally i would have spoken up (in the most polite way possible!!) but i'm a noob, and everyone was just ignoring what needed (and i mean needed) to be fixed and said "good blending". I didn't want to be the only one to speak up and risk being called a bitch, or being seen negatively, ya know? i agree that it might create a bit of a hierarchy, but it'll help people out in the long run. "The greater good!!"

Yeah i noticed today someone actually put some CC, I nearly fell off my seat with sheer shock! =P

I am glad someone agrees, there needs to be more CC and not just "Great look, well done". Which is niggling me a bit at the moment, it kinda gives the impression of someone being to lazy or not having enough time to give you any critique on photos.

 

[lizardprincesa]

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Originally Posted by sweetbabyblue I'm new to this forum and I quite like it here! I haven't had nagivation problems or posting but that might be because the posting features are similar to the Vogue forum that I'm used to I like that Specktra has so many subforums, there's few subject restrictions, I like the random 'chatter' forum, it's so fun!

I'm so happy you're here!

( & now I want to check out the Vogue forum,
if I can ever tear myself away from Specktra.)

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My only gripe is that the pricing webpage is not up to date

This, I don't really know about, as I have to try not to buy so much.

I'm sure the mods would be happy to help with this ?.

Sending You Sparklies, CherylFaithxxxx
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[kimmy]

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Originally Posted by Kayteuk Okay well shoot me down Mods if you don’t like it but I am going to post my 2 cents. I think this is a great forum, its well designed, well written and most posts are thoughtful and delightful to read. However I have noticed often we have to “sugar things up” to people instead of telling them flat out “That color isn’t to good on you”. Which can kind of help people out?

that might seem irritating, but in all honesty, putting something like that to someone in a nice way is probably the best route. i feel that sometimes, in some situations, you can't "sugar things up" (i know your boyfriend is a police officer, so i'm sure he can name plenty of those situations, as well haha!) but when you're commenting on someone's makeup that they feel comfortable in, i kind of feel it's really not cool to tell someone smugly "that doesn't work on you," when you could deliver the same message, but in a friendlier way. if someone wants cc, they're free to ask for it, and the rest of the forum is free to give it to them...but sometimes, people just don't want the criticism.


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Originally Posted by Kayteuk The other issue is….And Janice you know all about this one as I emailed you about it. People deleting posts and then you come back to look for it and its GONE. No mod or admin ever bothers to tell you why it’s gone. I actually wrote a really long post on my trouble getting a US visa, I was crying, upset and I thought I would come here, as the girls and guys are good here and I had seen posts similar to this up here. And I got some fantastic advice which I was so grateful for, I came back after dinner and my post had gone with no explanation, it fully abided all the guidelines in deep thoughts. And I know a few people have had problems with this. It takes 4 mins to write “Hey I am sorry I had to take down your post, here’s a copy for you to keep if you want to reference it, the reason we took it down was blah blah blah”

i used to run a message board a couple years back, and i used vbulletin software just like specktra does, and there's times when vbulletin messes up and your posts can disappear at random. so that, the staff doesn't really have much control over, unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by Beauty Mark 2) Some members are more comfortable joking with people they know. I haven't met anyone off of Specktra (though I'd like to), but I know I can joke with some people and they won't get offended. It's like if you were the new person at school.

word up.

i think the cure is more specktra meet ups. then we can just all be a big, happy family...who loves makeup.

 

[lizardprincesa]

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Originally Posted by redambition i think i get what you mean... when i joined up here i knew makeup was pretty, but i owned little of it. i was amazed at some of the collections and colours i saw. you can feel out of your depth here when you see the collections and knowledge displayed by many of the members.

"Out of your depth" is likely what the poster meant, rather than "annoying".
i never felt annoyed, but I did feel overwhelmed at first....overwhelmed by BeautifulColoursHeavenlyHuesAmazingMakeup!!!

I sm *soooo* grateful to the mods & the MUAs for posting swatches & info. You have either saved me $ I didn't have to spend, or helped me figure out just what I could enjoy purchasing if I had gift $.

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please - don't be scared, we don't bite

No, please have no fear...(even of us Vampires

(joking!)
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(unless you want us to. hah!) jump right in... and if my MAC addiction is anything to go by, i predict that soon you will also be able to name many colours off the top of your head

Yes. It's sooo True!

xxxxCherylFaithxxxx
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[Briar]

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Originally Posted by Kayteuk Yeah i noticed today someone actually put some CC, I nearly fell off my seat with sheer shock! =P I am glad someone agrees, there needs to be more CC and not just "Great look, well done". Which is niggling me a bit at the moment, it kinda gives the impression of someone being to lazy or not having enough time to give you any critique on photos.

So here's a question.... If I see a look I like, and want to just let the person know I really like it isn't that ok? Not being a professional, I don't usually have criticism of people's looks, but I think if I really like something I should let the person know.

 

[MACATTAK]

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Originally Posted by Briar So here's a question.... If I see a look I like, and want to just let the person know I really like it isn't that ok? Not being a professional, I don't usually have criticism of people's looks, but I think if I really like something I should let the person know.

That's exactly how I feel. If you have cc, give it in a nice way. If you don't.. saying "great look," or "this is really pretty," should be fine. That shouldn't indicate you are "lazy" or "robotic" (as I read in another post). You shouldn't put up a look, want feedback or comments, and then dictate how those comments are relayed. It doesn't seem fair to me.

 

[Beauty Mark]

I think that's fine. I think sometimes people like hearing "You look good today!" and that's fine. It's just makeup. I mean, it's not your doctoral thesis that should be critiqued beyond "It's fine."

However, by all means, I don't think you should be afraid to say what you're thinking. Be the change you want to see. If you want to give better kinds of hints, go for it! Well, as long as you're not an ass about it. Remember to be constructive with your criticism.

 

[nunu]

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Originally Posted by MACATTAK That's exactly how I feel. If you have cc, give it in a nice way. If you don't.. saying "great look," or "this is really pretty," should be fine. That shouldn't indicate you are "lazy" or "robotic" (as I read in another post). You shouldn't put up a look, want feedback or comments, and then dictate how those comments are relayed. It doesn't seem fair to me.

I totally agree with you. I don't see how saying "you look great" or "pretty look" as being lazy at all. We say these things because we do think the make up and the look are pretty. Every individual puts on make up the way they like and feel comfortable with. Some individuals like darker lipsticks so they add it to the look, who are we to say that that colour doesn't suit you, at the end of the day we all have our own style.
I personally don't like to put any cc because I don't always feel comfortable to include anything.

 

[glam8babe]

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Originally Posted by nunu I totally agree with you. I don't see how saying "you look great" or "pretty look" as being lazy at all. We say these things because we do think the make up and the look are pretty. Every individual puts on make up the way they like and feel comfortable with. Some individuals like darker lipsticks so they add it to the look, who are we to say that that colour doesn't suit you, at the end of the day we all have our own style. I personally don't like to put any cc because I don't always feel comfortable to include anything.

i totally agree

 

[lara]

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Originally Posted by BenefitAddict That one goes on a lot. I'm new here, and it seems kind of annoying how a lot of people were thanked like 9,000 times, are quick to post swatches, and have every single product on the market. It's just intimidating. EDIT: AND the same people always have already gone to MAC training and they are professional MAC artists and they have most of the colors memorized.

This one throws me a little.

I've genuinely never heard of the swatch forum described as a negative thing before.

 

[GreekChick]

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