Boob Nazis, Bottle feeders, and discretionary tactics

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*Stargazer*

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It has been proven to be beneficial for TODDLERS particularly in places that don't have readily available nutritional alternatives. There is NOTHING at all beneficial about nursing an 8 year old. In fact, I'd venture to say that it is detrimental to the mental and emotional health of a child that age.
 

tsukiyomi

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Originally Posted by Ladybug10678
It has been proven to be beneficial for TODDLERS in places that don't have readily available nutritional alternatives. There is NOTHING at all beneficial about nursing an 8 year old. In fact, I'd venture to say that it is detrimental to the mental and emotional health of a child that age.

Actually, you are incorrect.

Read please:

http://www.kellymom.com/bf/bfextended/ebf-benefits.html

I don't think you'll read, so here are some key points about breastfeeding a toddler:

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"Human milk expressed by mothers who have been lactating for >1 year has significantly increased fat and energy contents, compared with milk expressed by women who have been lactating for shorter periods. During prolonged lactation, the fat energy contribution of breast milk to the infant diet might be significant."
-- Mandel 2005

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In the second year (12-23 months), 448 mL of breastmilk provides:
29% of energy requirements
43% of protein requirements
36% of calcium requirements
75% of vitamin A requirements
76% of folate requirements
94% of vitamin B12 requirements
60% of vitamin C requirements
-- Dewey 2001

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The American Academy of Family Physicians notes that children weaned before two years of age are at increased risk of illness (AAFP 2001).

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"Antibodies are abundant in human milk throughout lactation" (Nutrition During Lactation 1991; p. 134). In fact, some of the immune factors in breastmilk increase in concentration during the second year and also during the weaning process. (Goldman 1983, Goldman & Goldblum 1983, Institute of Medicine 1991).

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Extensive research on the relationship between cognitive achievement (IQ scores, grades in school) and breastfeeding has shown the greatest gains for those children breastfed the longest.

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"Research reports on the psychological aspects of nursing are scarce. One study that dealt specifically with babies nursed longer than a year showed a significant link between the duration of nursing and mothers' and teachers' ratings of social adjustment in six- to eight-year-old children (Ferguson et al, 1987). In the words of the researchers, 'There are statistically significant tendencies for conduct disorder scores to decline with increasing duration of breastfeeding.'"

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The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that "Breastfeeding should be continued for at least the first year of life and beyond for as long as mutually desired by mother and child... Increased duration of breastfeeding confers significant health and developmental benefits for the child and the mother... There is no upper limit to the duration of breastfeeding and no evidence of psychologic or developmental harm from breastfeeding into the third year of life or longer." (AAP 2005)
The American Academy of Family Physicians recommends that breastfeeding continue throughout the first year of life and that "Breastfeeding beyond the first year offers considerable benefits to both mother and child, and should continue as long as mutually desired." They also note that "If the child is younger than two years of age, the child is at increased risk of illness if weaned." (AAFP 2001)
A US Surgeon General has stated that it is a lucky baby who continues to nurse until age two. (Novello 1990)
The World Health Organization emphasizes the importance of nursing up to two years of age or beyond (WHO 1992, WHO 2002).
Scientific research by Katherine A. Dettwyler, PhD shows that 2.5 to 7.0 years of nursing is what our children have been designed to expect (Dettwyler 1995).
 

*Stargazer*

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I don't think you'll read, so here are some key points about breastfeeding a toddler:

Good gravy. You just can't stop with the condescending BS no matter the topic, can you? Again, you've done nothing but push me to cease reading your posts or responding to your arguments.
 

tsukiyomi

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Good gravy. You just can't stop with the condescending BS no matter the topic, can you? Again, you've done nothing but push me to cease reading your posts or responding to your arguments.

I'm speaking from past experience. I post links and ask people to read them before responding and they don't. It's one of my pet peeves. If you felt like I was condescending, I apologise. Breastfeeding and extended breastfeeding is a subject that I know A LOT about.

By the way, did you read it?
 

*Stargazer*

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I would think by that age, the child would be old enough to think for itself, and make conchious decisions on what it wants to eat. Seems kinda unfair to only offer a breast to the 6 or 7 year old. I mean seriously... If your kid is holding a conversation with you while suckling, it's probably too old to be doing that.

Unfortunately, children that age are still impressionable enough to be pressured by their mothers in to continuing to nurse. So while they can think for themselves and make decisions, they may feel a GREAT deal of pressure to go along with what Mommy wants.
 

tsukiyomi

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Originally Posted by Ladybug10678
Unfortunately, children that age are still impressionable enough to be pressured by their mothers in to continuing to nurse. So while they can think for themselves and make decisions, they may feel a GREAT deal of pressure to go along with what Mommy wants.

Children that age who still nurse WANT to nurse. I highly doubt that their mother offers the breast to them. They ask for it or they try to nurse. Most children wean themselves at 2 or 3 or 4 years of age.
 

Raerae

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Honestly, is there something wrong with that?
Saying, for example, the mother expresses her milk and uses to it feed her child with, or to put in sippies...I can't see anything wrong with that really.


Sippies at 7 years old?
 

Shimmer

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Yes, cups with lids.
Mopping spills is tiresome.
Talk to me about parenting methods when you've got some years actually doing it under your belt.
 

Raerae

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Originally Posted by Beauty Mark
I don't think most women, at least from what I've seen, are whipping out their tit and being like "Hey world, come gawk!" I'd have an issue with that, but I have an issue with attention whores in general. My friend, who isn't exactly flat, breastfed her kid, and I couldn't see really anything during the act of breastfeeding, just her kid's head and a tad bit of her breast, which would probably have been reveal by a shirt anyway.

Time and time again i've said I have no problem with this. Thats discrete breastfeeding, and it's fine. You all just choose to ignore it.

And yeh, I've seen women with with their shirts unbuttoned showing a lot more than what would just be exposed by a v-neck top. Not everyone is a discrete feeder, those are the people I have issues with.
 

Raerae

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It is a very small (and vocal) minority that does it indiscreetly and I firmly believe that most of that stems from an attention whore, selfish "my rights are the only valid rights" viewpoint.

This thread is about those types of people. Not sure why people keep confusing it with people who breastfeed politely. Unless your a Boob Nazi, this thread isn't about you.
 

Raerae

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Originally Posted by tsukiyomi
Children that age who still nurse WANT to nurse. I highly doubt that their mother offers the breast to them. They ask for it or they try to nurse. Most children wean themselves at 2 or 3 or 4 years of age.

You honestly don't find that YouTube video creepy?
 

Beauty Mark

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Has there been any psychological research about breastfeeding when the kid can eat real food? I mean, actual research, not someone's personal accounts. Children often want candy for every meal, but that doesn't mean it's good for them.
 

*Stargazer*

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This thread is about those types of people. Not sure why people keep confusing it with people who breastfeed politely. Unless your a Boob Nazi, this thread isn't about you.

Not confusing it, just reiterating the point.
 

*Stargazer*

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You honestly don't find that YouTube video creepy?

OK, thank God I'm not the only one that was creeped out by that.
 

Beauty Mark

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Since I'm at work, I can't view the YouTube video, but I guess it's a child breastfeeding? Why on earth do you a) film that and b) put it on Youtube? Besides being odd, it seems like it will just attract smartasses and pedophiles
 

*Stargazer*

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Since I'm at work, I can't view the YouTube video, but I guess it's a child breastfeeding? Why on earth do you a) film that and b) put it on Youtube? Besides being odd, it seems like it will just attract smartasses and pedophiles

It's a woman nursing her 8 year old. Outside of the fact that I find it insanely creepy to watch the kid walk up and start suckling, I find it just as disturbing that the woman has no concern whatsoever that she is setting her child up for some serious social issues.
 

Kimberleigh

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Originally Posted by Beauty Mark
Since I'm at work, I can't view the YouTube video, but I guess it's a child breastfeeding? Why on earth do you a) film that and b) put it on Youtube? Besides being odd, it seems like it will just attract smartasses and pedophiles

It's more of a news report than a random chick breastfeeding. And yeah, that's a little much. She's 8 and picking berries. When she's 15 is she still going to be asking for the breast?
 

Raerae

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It's work safr the video.

But the kid breastfeeding, was in the first part of the video, out picking rasberries in the field with her Mom. And eating the rasberries. And then when they got home, Mom lifts her shirt so she can breastfeed. The kid is HUGE, she can't even fit on the mom lap, and lies on the couch while doing this.

Thats the first one. The second one there is like a girl taking piano lessons... So yeh... You know the rest.
 

Beauty Mark

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Not that peer pressure and teasing should ever determine your course of actions, but can you imagine the teasing those kids undergo?

Is it actually healthy for women to produce milk that long? And if there's more than one child, what does that do to your health?
 

Raerae

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Not that peer pressure and teasing should ever determine your course of actions, but can you imagine the teasing those kids undergo?

***School Lunch Bell for Grades 1 - 3***

Joe ~ Hey Billy, what did your Mom give you to drink?

Billy ~ ZOMG! I got the new Wild Berry Caprisun!

Joe ~ Trade yah! my Mome here, she's gonna give me breast milk...

Billy ~ ...
 
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