Father at 13.
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caffn8me
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Sadly, there are lots of people who find young children very attractive sexually
I used to work with a guy who ended up abducting and raping two six year old girls. I'm glad to say he's never likely to be released from prison.
In this case it's a bit different as it seems the intercourse was consensual but strictly speaking, if the father's voice hasn't broken and he hasn't grown pubic hair, the girl is might be classed as a paedophile too - except for the fact she's so young herself.
In this case it's a bit different as it seems the intercourse was consensual but strictly speaking, if the father's voice hasn't broken and he hasn't grown pubic hair, the girl is might be classed as a paedophile too - except for the fact she's so young herself.
chocolategoddes
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the empty look in the boy's eyes made me die a little on the inside.
when i was 13, i had friends and classmates who were sexually active. apparently, all these girls were having sex with this one guy in my middle school because he had an 8 inch dick.
i mean, thats pretty impressive for a 13 year old boy (or anyone I suppose), but the fact that a bunch of little, middle school girls wanted to fuck him because of that was very disturbing.
so yeah... 13 isnt a very innocent age. :/
when i was 13, i had friends and classmates who were sexually active. apparently, all these girls were having sex with this one guy in my middle school because he had an 8 inch dick.
i mean, thats pretty impressive for a 13 year old boy (or anyone I suppose), but the fact that a bunch of little, middle school girls wanted to fuck him because of that was very disturbing.
so yeah... 13 isnt a very innocent age. :/
hooked*on*mac
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this is insane!
13 and 15 year olds have enough trouble doing their home work and keeping their rooms clean! let alone giving birth to a child and becoming parents.
this is a classic case of children wanting to grow up way to fast! ha welcome to the real world kids, you will now see how much responsibility bites!
these 2 children are not mentaly capable to make the decision to concent to have sexual engagements, let alone being responsible for a new born child!
i wonder if they used protection? maybe not - and they thought they new it all?
i really feel for these kids because there life is so ruined, there education and futures have been compromised because of this.
it isnt fair to their parents because now they have to be responible for the new edition to the family (giving them now a total of over 6 children to support), it also is not fair to the new born child.
i do understand that this is not an uncommon thing to happen, maybe in the 18th century! we are in the 21st century peoples - this is unbelievable i really am dumbfounded and cant believe it.
sex is great, in fact it is only natural - providing you have a few key ingreedients, 1: you are of legal age to concent, 2:you are taking appropriate precautions such as protection- birthcontrol etc, these kids musnt of realized that they have their whole adult lifespan to have sex, but they jumped the gun and had a baby.
i believe that this will not last, the teen parents will break up and someone will be left with the responibility of their child.
being a parent is a full time gig, you are always responsible, it is hard work but also rewarding, if my daughter came home at 15 and told me she was pregnant, i would be shattered.
13 and 15 year olds have enough trouble doing their home work and keeping their rooms clean! let alone giving birth to a child and becoming parents.
this is a classic case of children wanting to grow up way to fast! ha welcome to the real world kids, you will now see how much responsibility bites!
these 2 children are not mentaly capable to make the decision to concent to have sexual engagements, let alone being responsible for a new born child!
i wonder if they used protection? maybe not - and they thought they new it all?
i really feel for these kids because there life is so ruined, there education and futures have been compromised because of this.
it isnt fair to their parents because now they have to be responible for the new edition to the family (giving them now a total of over 6 children to support), it also is not fair to the new born child.
i do understand that this is not an uncommon thing to happen, maybe in the 18th century! we are in the 21st century peoples - this is unbelievable i really am dumbfounded and cant believe it.
sex is great, in fact it is only natural - providing you have a few key ingreedients, 1: you are of legal age to concent, 2:you are taking appropriate precautions such as protection- birthcontrol etc, these kids musnt of realized that they have their whole adult lifespan to have sex, but they jumped the gun and had a baby.
i believe that this will not last, the teen parents will break up and someone will be left with the responibility of their child.
being a parent is a full time gig, you are always responsible, it is hard work but also rewarding, if my daughter came home at 15 and told me she was pregnant, i would be shattered.
M.A.C. head.
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There are so many things wrong with this post.
YES, it's awful that these young kids had a baby, but their lives are NOT over and ruined. They both have loving and supportive families behind them, and that makes all the difference.
Your "ingredients" for having sex are obsolete. Those have nothing to do with the physiological and biological reasons for the desire to have sex. No, they probably didn't realize the potential consequences of their actions, but that doesn't make them bad and doomed kids, it means they were misguided and did something they shouldn't have.
I'm not trying to assume anything about you, but from your comments, am I correct if I gather that you would tell your daughter that she'd ruined her life and her education and that you would think and treat her and your grandchild as a burden? Hmmm...Those types of sentiments are what keep up the cycle and misinformation that puts kids in these types of situations in the first place.
Originally Posted by hooked*on*mac
this is insane! 13 and 15 year olds have enough trouble doing their home work and keeping their rooms clean! let alone giving birth to a child and becoming parents. this is a classic case of children wanting to grow up way to fast! ha welcome to the real world kids, you will now see how much responsibility bites! these 2 children are not mentaly capable to make the decision to concent to have sexual engagements, let alone being responsible for a new born child! i wonder if they used protection? maybe not - and they thought they new it all? i really feel for these kids because there life is so ruined, there education and futures have been compromised because of this. it isnt fair to their parents because now they have to be responible for the new edition to the family (giving them now a total of over 6 children to support), it also is not fair to the new born child. i do understand that this is not an uncommon thing to happen, maybe in the 18th century! we are in the 21st century peoples - this is unbelievable i really am dumbfounded and cant believe it. sex is great, in fact it is only natural - providing you have a few key ingreedients, 1: you are of legal age to concent, 2:you are taking appropriate precautions such as protection- birthcontrol etc, these kids musnt of realized that they have their whole adult lifespan to have sex, but they jumped the gun and had a baby. i believe that this will not last, the teen parents will break up and someone will be left with the responibility of their child. being a parent is a full time gig, you are always responsible, it is hard work but also rewarding, if my daughter came home at 15 and told me she was pregnant, i would be shattered. |
There are so many things wrong with this post.
YES, it's awful that these young kids had a baby, but their lives are NOT over and ruined. They both have loving and supportive families behind them, and that makes all the difference.
Your "ingredients" for having sex are obsolete. Those have nothing to do with the physiological and biological reasons for the desire to have sex. No, they probably didn't realize the potential consequences of their actions, but that doesn't make them bad and doomed kids, it means they were misguided and did something they shouldn't have.
I'm not trying to assume anything about you, but from your comments, am I correct if I gather that you would tell your daughter that she'd ruined her life and her education and that you would think and treat her and your grandchild as a burden? Hmmm...Those types of sentiments are what keep up the cycle and misinformation that puts kids in these types of situations in the first place.
caffn8me
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I suspect these are the sort of kids who do neither but it's not actually their fault. It's entirely the fault of their good-for-nothing parents. No good parent would ever have allowed this to happen to their children.
| Originally Posted by hooked*on*mac
this is insane! 13 and 15 year olds have enough trouble doing their home work and keeping their rooms clean! |
I suspect these are the sort of kids who do neither but it's not actually their fault. It's entirely the fault of their good-for-nothing parents. No good parent would ever have allowed this to happen to their children.
hooked*on*mac
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this is only my opinion, i have no intention to offend.
in the real world, if you make a choice you must accept the consiquences.
these kids now have to accept responsibility, they thought they knew what they wher doing and the fact is they did it, no one pressured them or forced them.. i dont think that any parent would stand by there child and say yes kids it is ok to have sex at such a young age and dont worry about protection, you dont need it....
to be honest i would hate to be a parent in this situation and believe that i would educate my daughter about being responsible. if this case occured (in wich i doubt), but i yes i would tell her that she has ruined her education and future. I would not disown my daughter or grandchild, i would support them both.
how does this child now young mother complete her education? keeping in mind that there are now 6 children to support on the young mothers side of the family, if her parents are at work earning money to feed the family and pay the bills?
oh thats right her parent/s dont work because they are being supported by the taxpayers.....the 15yr old mother needs to stay at home to care for the baby and bond with her child - this is now her full time job.
the father is 13yrs old, is he even old enough to get a job? maybe mcdonalds will give him some shift work @ $4 an hour, what about his education?
everything cost money!!!
we have evolved beyond and above - that the man goes to work and i the bread winner and women must stay at home to bear children and raise the family and keep the home in order.
ww2 opened the door to women to join the work force and gave women there independance, in this day and age women are career driven, and choose to have a family and settle down later on in life.
if you want to have nice things in your life, such as cars, owning a home , going on holidays etc, you need to have a good job, the only way to get a good job is to be well educated.
there is nothing easy about having children, it is constant hard work and costs money but in the long term very rewarding.
it is a parents responsibility to make sure our kids are safe, productive and heading down the right path, but sometimes kids want to grow up to fast and will go against what the parens have taught.
yes i do believe that having a child at such a young age will impact not only your life but also your childs life, kids do not like responsibility... how many times do you think a parent asks their child to do their homework and clean their room before the kids will actually do it.
this isnt like playing with a baby born doll - meaning that when you have had enough play time for the day and want to go out with your friends you put it back on the shelf.
it is not the new born childs fault, it didnt ask to be brought into this world. it is not a good start for their life either.
these kids will realize this sooner than later, they have made a choice that only an mature young adult/ adult should make and they have suffered the consiquences, this is why i stand by the fact that young children are not mature enough to make these decisions nor responsible enough to be parents and raise a child,they are only children themselves.
they should be busy being kids, going to school, playing with their friends, going to the movies and simply just having fun, not making babies.
the whole thing is questionable, personally i dont agree with it and the 2 children made a stupid choice by engaging in activities that they need not concern themselves about.....
this is a serious can of worms that has been opened.
| Originally Posted by M.A.C. head.
There are so many things wrong with this post. YES, it's awful that these young kids had a baby, but their lives are NOT over and ruined. They both have loving and supportive families behind them, and that makes all the difference. Your "ingredients" for having sex are obsolete. Those have nothing to do with the physiological and biological reasons for the desire to have sex. No, they probably didn't realize the potential consequences of their actions, but that doesn't make them bad and doomed kids, it means they were misguided and did something they shouldn't have. I'm not trying to assume anything about you, but from your comments, am I correct if I gather that you would tell your daughter that she'd ruined her life and her education and that you would think and treat her and your grandchild as a burden? Hmmm...Those types of sentiments are what keep up the cycle and misinformation that puts kids in these types of situations in the first place. |
this is only my opinion, i have no intention to offend.
in the real world, if you make a choice you must accept the consiquences.
these kids now have to accept responsibility, they thought they knew what they wher doing and the fact is they did it, no one pressured them or forced them.. i dont think that any parent would stand by there child and say yes kids it is ok to have sex at such a young age and dont worry about protection, you dont need it....
to be honest i would hate to be a parent in this situation and believe that i would educate my daughter about being responsible. if this case occured (in wich i doubt), but i yes i would tell her that she has ruined her education and future. I would not disown my daughter or grandchild, i would support them both.
how does this child now young mother complete her education? keeping in mind that there are now 6 children to support on the young mothers side of the family, if her parents are at work earning money to feed the family and pay the bills?
oh thats right her parent/s dont work because they are being supported by the taxpayers.....the 15yr old mother needs to stay at home to care for the baby and bond with her child - this is now her full time job.
the father is 13yrs old, is he even old enough to get a job? maybe mcdonalds will give him some shift work @ $4 an hour, what about his education?
everything cost money!!!
we have evolved beyond and above - that the man goes to work and i the bread winner and women must stay at home to bear children and raise the family and keep the home in order.
ww2 opened the door to women to join the work force and gave women there independance, in this day and age women are career driven, and choose to have a family and settle down later on in life.
if you want to have nice things in your life, such as cars, owning a home , going on holidays etc, you need to have a good job, the only way to get a good job is to be well educated.
there is nothing easy about having children, it is constant hard work and costs money but in the long term very rewarding.
it is a parents responsibility to make sure our kids are safe, productive and heading down the right path, but sometimes kids want to grow up to fast and will go against what the parens have taught.
yes i do believe that having a child at such a young age will impact not only your life but also your childs life, kids do not like responsibility... how many times do you think a parent asks their child to do their homework and clean their room before the kids will actually do it.
this isnt like playing with a baby born doll - meaning that when you have had enough play time for the day and want to go out with your friends you put it back on the shelf.
it is not the new born childs fault, it didnt ask to be brought into this world. it is not a good start for their life either.
these kids will realize this sooner than later, they have made a choice that only an mature young adult/ adult should make and they have suffered the consiquences, this is why i stand by the fact that young children are not mature enough to make these decisions nor responsible enough to be parents and raise a child,they are only children themselves.
they should be busy being kids, going to school, playing with their friends, going to the movies and simply just having fun, not making babies.
the whole thing is questionable, personally i dont agree with it and the 2 children made a stupid choice by engaging in activities that they need not concern themselves about.....
this is a serious can of worms that has been opened.
X4biddenxLustX
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I thought the same about boys that age and sperm and puberty too
. He still has a little kiddie voice! I do agree that girl looks older than what she actually is, older than 15.
| Originally Posted by LMD84
when me and thye lads read this at work we were all so shocked. and also disgusted! the boy doesn't even look 13 and the girl does look much older. plus girls mature quicker than boys so you have to wonder why she decided to date a 13 year old (12 at the time of sex!!) in the first place. when i was 13 kissing a guy was something 'naughty'. plus i didnt even realise that boys could produce sperm at that age! my eyes have well and truely been opened! |
I thought the same about boys that age and sperm and puberty too
Mabelle
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I know a guy that became a father at... it was between 12-14. I went to school with his little brother, and i remember him telling me about it (we were in elementary). The mother was 18 and kinda seduced him.
In this case he had loving parents, but i suppose they werent paying as much attention as they should have been. He met this older woman, and i suppose he thought he was really cool, dating her. Well, he got her pregnant. She had the baby, a girl, and he took as much responsibilty as a kid that age could. His parents stepped in and helped too.
I think he went through a really rough patch, doing stupid shit when he was an older teenager, but he got through it.
Man, it must be so scary to find out your a dad at that age... I can only imagine how his parents felt. For a girl, at least she can have an abortion. For a guy, well, if he's "honorable" it's gotta stick it out, regardless of age.
In this case he had loving parents, but i suppose they werent paying as much attention as they should have been. He met this older woman, and i suppose he thought he was really cool, dating her. Well, he got her pregnant. She had the baby, a girl, and he took as much responsibilty as a kid that age could. His parents stepped in and helped too.
I think he went through a really rough patch, doing stupid shit when he was an older teenager, but he got through it.
Man, it must be so scary to find out your a dad at that age... I can only imagine how his parents felt. For a girl, at least she can have an abortion. For a guy, well, if he's "honorable" it's gotta stick it out, regardless of age.
X4biddenxLustX
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I've been wondering why a lot of these situations that have been mentioned in the thread and in the original article, that the girls/mothers are practically all older than the boys/fathers? Now personally I'm not into the whole older female younger male thing, but I know there are others that are into it. BUT these are just kids! I'm glad you pointed out the whole "seduction" aspect of it, but I'm not sure what these girls are getting off of messing with such younger boys.
I feel bad for those kids because they don't truly understand the enormous life changing event that bringing a child into this world is. Not only are they going to possibly miss out on a lot of their childhood (whatever they have thats still left) but they just seem totally unready to be parents. Being a parent is much different from being a big sister or brother. Theres a ton more of responsibility and sacrifice involved.
| Originally Posted by Mabelle
I know a guy that became a father at... it was between 12-14. I went to school with his little brother, and i remember him telling me about it (we were in elementary). The mother was 18 and kinda seduced him. In this case he had loving parents, but i suppose they werent paying as much attention as they should have been. He met this older woman, and i suppose he thought he was really cool, dating her. Well, he got her pregnant. She had the baby, a girl, and he took as much responsibilty as a kid that age could. His parents stepped in and helped too. I think he went through a really rough patch, doing stupid shit when he was an older teenager, but he got through it. Man, it must be so scary to find out your a dad at that age... I can only imagine how his parents felt. For a girl, at least she can have an abortion. For a guy, well, if he's "honorable" it's gotta stick it out, regardless of age. |
I've been wondering why a lot of these situations that have been mentioned in the thread and in the original article, that the girls/mothers are practically all older than the boys/fathers? Now personally I'm not into the whole older female younger male thing, but I know there are others that are into it. BUT these are just kids! I'm glad you pointed out the whole "seduction" aspect of it, but I'm not sure what these girls are getting off of messing with such younger boys.
I feel bad for those kids because they don't truly understand the enormous life changing event that bringing a child into this world is. Not only are they going to possibly miss out on a lot of their childhood (whatever they have thats still left) but they just seem totally unready to be parents. Being a parent is much different from being a big sister or brother. Theres a ton more of responsibility and sacrifice involved.
NutMeg
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IMO, the mom doesn't look older than 15. She looks about her age. The dad on the other hand looks about eight.
It made me really sad to see him holding that baby, and then I realised that my bf was that age when he lost his virginity, and now I'm freaked out. Man, that is crazy shit.
It made me really sad to see him holding that baby, and then I realised that my bf was that age when he lost his virginity, and now I'm freaked out. Man, that is crazy shit.
emmy282
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^^^^ Exactly! When I was 12 I was still playing with dolls! Sex was the last thing from my mind, and seeing as boys usually mature later... It's just mindboggling to me!
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I know! Trust the Sun
I think this is actually the first time I've ever read it!
Just thought I'd let you know that I found out about this watching the Spanish news yesterday. I was sitting there with some friends, and they asked me if that was normal in the UK...
| Originally Posted by SuSana
There was a girl from my church who was 12 that got pregnant by an 11 year old 5th grader. Umm idk about you guys but in 5th grade I don't even think I knew what sex was, let alone doing it. |
^^^^ Exactly! When I was 12 I was still playing with dolls! Sex was the last thing from my mind, and seeing as boys usually mature later... It's just mindboggling to me!
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| Originally Posted by flowerhead
Lol, ridiculous. I can't believe I just read something on The Sun's website. Think I'm going to vomit now... |
I know! Trust the Sun
Just thought I'd let you know that I found out about this watching the Spanish news yesterday. I was sitting there with some friends, and they asked me if that was normal in the UK...
Septemba
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This story horrified me. I can't get his face out of my head.
I know it's nothing completely unheard of for 12 year olds to be having sex. I remember in my first year of High School when a lot of my schoolmates and friend's started having sex. We were 12 and they spoke about it so casually. I'm sure some of it was lies but not all... and more kids than should ever be were experimenting with some serious drugs.
This was at a high-discipline school and I remember being totally devastated and feeling like my innocence was lost. It was so confusing.
Anyway, not all cases of pregnancies like this end in disaster but I do feel sorry for the children in some situations. Very sorry.
I know it's nothing completely unheard of for 12 year olds to be having sex. I remember in my first year of High School when a lot of my schoolmates and friend's started having sex. We were 12 and they spoke about it so casually. I'm sure some of it was lies but not all... and more kids than should ever be were experimenting with some serious drugs.
This was at a high-discipline school and I remember being totally devastated and feeling like my innocence was lost. It was so confusing.
Anyway, not all cases of pregnancies like this end in disaster but I do feel sorry for the children in some situations. Very sorry.
now the paper has run a story saying that the 13 year old boy needs to have a dna test because 3 other blokes have said that they're the father of the baby! the 15 year old girl obviously liked to get her freak on! i swear i'm still shocked about the ages people are having sex now.... i was 18 when i lost my virginity... i don't think people take it that seriously anymore which is kinda sad.
Septemba
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*raises brow* Charming!!
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I think it's sad too. I respect that sex can be be strictly physical and that's fine but geez. What's the rush, hey?
By the same token and I'm not sure if it applies here, but I think that the intelligence of kids and teens is underrated a lot of time and urges can start early.
| Originally Posted by LMD84
now the paper has run a story saying that the 13 year old boy needs to have a dna test because 3 other blokes have said that they're the father of the baby! |
*raises brow* Charming!!
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| the 15 year old girl obviously liked to get her freak on! i swear i'm still shocked about the ages people are having sex now.... i was 18 when i lost my virginity... i don't think people take it that seriously anymore which is kinda sad. |
I think it's sad too. I respect that sex can be be strictly physical and that's fine but geez. What's the rush, hey?
By the same token and I'm not sure if it applies here, but I think that the intelligence of kids and teens is underrated a lot of time and urges can start early.
X4biddenxLustX
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Wait, the SAME boy that is being talked about in the article and on this thread?!
No offense, but this is some Maury drama here.
It's not the fact that this 15 year old girl is having sex that bothers me but the fact that she's most likely having unprotected sex. Who knows who she'll run into later on and can catch something from?
| Originally Posted by LMD84
now the paper has run a story saying that the 13 year old boy needs to have a dna test because 3 other blokes have said that they're the father of the baby! the 15 year old girl obviously liked to get her freak on! i swear i'm still shocked about the ages people are having sex now.... i was 18 when i lost my virginity... i don't think people take it that seriously anymore which is kinda sad. |
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| Originally Posted by Septemba
*raises brow* Charming!!
I think it's sad too. I respect that sex can be be strictly physical and that's fine but geez. What's the rush, hey? By the same token and I'm not sure if it applies here, but I think that the intelligence of kids and teens is underrated a lot of time and urges can start early. |
Wait, the SAME boy that is being talked about in the article and on this thread?!
No offense, but this is some Maury drama here.
It's not the fact that this 15 year old girl is having sex that bothers me but the fact that she's most likely having unprotected sex. Who knows who she'll run into later on and can catch something from?
