I hope you all don't mind offering some more advice? I think people have already discussed this, but anyone have suggestions for lip liners to go with or under Royal ball? I just purchased foundation in NC20 which is not normal for me as I'm currently fighting anemia and went down approximately two to three shades in foundation. In Guerlain Lingerie de Peau I'm usually Beige Clair with Les Voilettes on top in medium to darken it slightly. That's my natural, no faux self tanner shade combo, and the combo is too dark for me right now, hence me trying a new MAC foundation (tomorrow in fact, as I just received it.) I'm also trying the new Lingerie De Peau powder foundation, trying to get my pale, sickly looking skin to look a little better. I love Royal Ball, but I am concerned it will wash me out too much. In all honesty, I haven't purchased a MAC lip liner in years (I buy lots of MAC eyeshadow and lip glasses.) ️ I tend to use Urban Decay lipliners, and I think I'll try it with Naked and maybe Rush? Any suggestions for a MAC lipliner in maybe a warm nude pink? Any advice is really welcome and appreciated ladies!