Makeup Schools
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novemberheart
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Thank you! I will check it out!
Originally Posted by cthea
The Aveda school in/near Minneapolis (sorry, can't remember if its actually in the city) may offer a makeup program. Some do, some don't. Check it out... If they have one, it's totally worth it! |
Thank you! I will check it out!
funandfitnessjo
Member
I've been looking for a makeup school as well.
And am looking forward to hearing folks feedback or imput.
I have purchased Elite Pro's course but wouldn't recommend it. It's been a huge expensive mistake.
Looks like there's lots of courses available out there. I've had friends that have done plenty of training with MAC courses.
Jose
And am looking forward to hearing folks feedback or imput.
I have purchased Elite Pro's course but wouldn't recommend it. It's been a huge expensive mistake.
Looks like there's lots of courses available out there. I've had friends that have done plenty of training with MAC courses.
Jose
COBI
Well-known member
Thank you. I get a lot of e-mails from Elite Pro, but just couldn't justify the amount. What didn't you like? Was it the actual content or just trying to do it a correspondence makeup course?
The macpro site lists "events" which includes trainings held at stores. I think to find smaller session at stores, I would make sure your local stores know that you are interested in trainings. Some even offer one-on-one training if I am not mistaken.
I've been trying to find a credible course for a while, but I live in the "middle of nowhere", and the touring courses that come within 2+ hours (to Boston) don't get high marks here on Specktra or reviews that I can find online.
What general area do you live in? It may help people pin down a course for you.
Good luck.
The macpro site lists "events" which includes trainings held at stores. I think to find smaller session at stores, I would make sure your local stores know that you are interested in trainings. Some even offer one-on-one training if I am not mistaken.
I've been trying to find a credible course for a while, but I live in the "middle of nowhere", and the touring courses that come within 2+ hours (to Boston) don't get high marks here on Specktra or reviews that I can find online.
What general area do you live in? It may help people pin down a course for you.
Good luck.
funandfitnessjo
Member
I pretty much had hiccups from the get-go.
I won't go into all of it because the post would take forever.
Due to the Elite Pro course being translated from spanish (I think it's spanish) to english - there's spelling mistakes in the videos.
The workbooks have some stuff written in another language so you'll need to google them for translation.
And in some of the videos you're watching them talking and demonstrate makeup but the sound has been removed. Once in a while an english voice will chip in and narrate a sentence here n there. It's frustrating as the person who is talking flat out in another language demonstrating the makeup (that you can't hear) - but just watch - is probably offering really good information.
They also have a song that plays in the background of nearly every video. I'm not sure if it's to do with the translation of the music or what but it's the same chorus over and over again saying something about a "mother f---" something or rather. It drives you nuts to the point where you want to turn down the sound because you can't stand listening to the same old chorus repeated for hours on end every time you watch the dvd's.
The whole package in general comes across as very unprofessional and amateurish. If they're going to provide an english course they need to ensure it's done properly. For the amount the course costs it's needs to be more thorough and match the claims they make about it in their sales pitches. This company is supposed to be world renowned within the fashion and makeup industry. But you wouldn't think so from the course.
When I received my package the box was trashed and some of the contents was damaged with some stuff missing. After contacting them they said they'd send me replacements. They didn't turn up. I then noticed I had a dvd module missing so I spoke with them again.
After several emails back and forth they phoned me because I said I wanted a refund and was sick and tired of all the dramas. But was told unless I completed two modules I couldn't get my refund. They said this is stated in their guarantee - however I didn't receive a copy of this until AFTER I had forked out the $4500. Apparently it's on their site however their site was experiencing script errors when I was purchasing the course causing problems with their online shopping cart which lead me to having to purchase the course over the phone.
We agreed they'd extend my guarantee and would get onto sending me the replacement for the missing and damaged contents.
The staff are friendly but when there's continual problems it's not worth the expense. And you getting the feeling they are not up to scratch when they blame other staff members for certain stuff-ups.
Also if you want to work in areas of make up and beauty where you need specific qualifications due to your state's training requirements then I wouldn't recommend this course either.
I'm sure there could be others that have enjoyed this course but I don't think it's worth the money. You're better off attending a course.
I won't go into all of it because the post would take forever.
Due to the Elite Pro course being translated from spanish (I think it's spanish) to english - there's spelling mistakes in the videos.
The workbooks have some stuff written in another language so you'll need to google them for translation.
And in some of the videos you're watching them talking and demonstrate makeup but the sound has been removed. Once in a while an english voice will chip in and narrate a sentence here n there. It's frustrating as the person who is talking flat out in another language demonstrating the makeup (that you can't hear) - but just watch - is probably offering really good information.
They also have a song that plays in the background of nearly every video. I'm not sure if it's to do with the translation of the music or what but it's the same chorus over and over again saying something about a "mother f---" something or rather. It drives you nuts to the point where you want to turn down the sound because you can't stand listening to the same old chorus repeated for hours on end every time you watch the dvd's.
The whole package in general comes across as very unprofessional and amateurish. If they're going to provide an english course they need to ensure it's done properly. For the amount the course costs it's needs to be more thorough and match the claims they make about it in their sales pitches. This company is supposed to be world renowned within the fashion and makeup industry. But you wouldn't think so from the course.
When I received my package the box was trashed and some of the contents was damaged with some stuff missing. After contacting them they said they'd send me replacements. They didn't turn up. I then noticed I had a dvd module missing so I spoke with them again.
After several emails back and forth they phoned me because I said I wanted a refund and was sick and tired of all the dramas. But was told unless I completed two modules I couldn't get my refund. They said this is stated in their guarantee - however I didn't receive a copy of this until AFTER I had forked out the $4500. Apparently it's on their site however their site was experiencing script errors when I was purchasing the course causing problems with their online shopping cart which lead me to having to purchase the course over the phone.
We agreed they'd extend my guarantee and would get onto sending me the replacement for the missing and damaged contents.
The staff are friendly but when there's continual problems it's not worth the expense. And you getting the feeling they are not up to scratch when they blame other staff members for certain stuff-ups.
Also if you want to work in areas of make up and beauty where you need specific qualifications due to your state's training requirements then I wouldn't recommend this course either.
I'm sure there could be others that have enjoyed this course but I don't think it's worth the money. You're better off attending a course.
ellabella220208
Member
oh thanks so much!!! was thinking bout this course but dont think i will now. does anyone know any good british home study courses?? i just want to do a course at home on make up so i can do jobs. does anyone have any ideas??
stacylynne
Well-known member
If you want to save $$$. Just go on youtube. Everything you want to learn will be on youtube.
MACandie2012
Well-known member
So do you think HEX Online Makeup School would be better?
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| Originally Posted by funandfitnessjo
I pretty much had hiccups from the get-go. I won't go into all of it because the post would take forever. Due to the Elite Pro course being translated from spanish (I think it's spanish) to english - there's spelling mistakes in the videos. The workbooks have some stuff written in another language so you'll need to google them for translation. And in some of the videos you're watching them talking and demonstrate makeup but the sound has been removed. Once in a while an english voice will chip in and narrate a sentence here n there. It's frustrating as the person who is talking flat out in another language demonstrating the makeup (that you can't hear) - but just watch - is probably offering really good information. They also have a song that plays in the background of nearly every video. I'm not sure if it's to do with the translation of the music or what but it's the same chorus over and over again saying something about a "mother f---" something or rather. It drives you nuts to the point where you want to turn down the sound because you can't stand listening to the same old chorus repeated for hours on end every time you watch the dvd's. The whole package in general comes across as very unprofessional and amateurish. If they're going to provide an english course they need to ensure it's done properly. For the amount the course costs it's needs to be more thorough and match the claims they make about it in their sales pitches. This company is supposed to be world renowned within the fashion and makeup industry. But you wouldn't think so from the course. When I received my package the box was trashed and some of the contents was damaged with some stuff missing. After contacting them they said they'd send me replacements. They didn't turn up. I then noticed I had a dvd module missing so I spoke with them again. After several emails back and forth they phoned me because I said I wanted a refund and was sick and tired of all the dramas. But was told unless I completed two modules I couldn't get my refund. They said this is stated in their guarantee - however I didn't receive a copy of this until AFTER I had forked out the $4500. Apparently it's on their site however their site was experiencing script errors when I was purchasing the course causing problems with their online shopping cart which lead me to having to purchase the course over the phone. We agreed they'd extend my guarantee and would get onto sending me the replacement for the missing and damaged contents. The staff are friendly but when there's continual problems it's not worth the expense. And you getting the feeling they are not up to scratch when they blame other staff members for certain stuff-ups. Also if you want to work in areas of make up and beauty where you need specific qualifications due to your state's training requirements then I wouldn't recommend this course either. I'm sure there could be others that have enjoyed this course but I don't think it's worth the money. You're better off attending a course. |
MACandie2012
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is it an online school?
cocolicouss
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i actually called them and set up an appoint but i don't know if i'm even gonna go
| Originally Posted by BEA2LS
I was looking into Empire has anyone heard anything good/bad about it? my hair dresser went there and she does hair/nails/make-up. |
i actually called them and set up an appoint but i don't know if i'm even gonna go
slick
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After much deliberation, I have decided to attend Candace Corey's Makeup Artist Workshop (www.candacecorey.com) in Chicago this Spring!! Very stoked. I chose this workshop based on cost (just under $1k), time (30 hours over 3 days) and content (all media areas covered, plus airbrush AND a photo/portfolio session!). Also, Mary (Mary Erickson, The Makeup Artist .com - San Diego and Los Angeles make-up, hair styling and wardrobe) recommends her. Having a reputable artist reccomendation was really a big factor in my decision. ;-)
I'm a complete newb, and I wanted to find a school/workshop that would introduce me to the MUA world and allow me to practice on a variety of faces as well as learn the business side of things. Having a few decent portfolio shots coming out is just an added bonus. The whole purpose of me taking this workshop is to see if I have the passion and talent to take my hobby to an at least part-time gig. We'll see how it goes!
The only "downside" (HA!) about this workshop is that you have to bring your own kit, which I am currently putting together! Even with having to get a kit together, the overall cost is still reasonable compared to other schools out there. Have to put together a kit at some point anyway, so I see this as getting a nice jump start!
I'm a complete newb, and I wanted to find a school/workshop that would introduce me to the MUA world and allow me to practice on a variety of faces as well as learn the business side of things. Having a few decent portfolio shots coming out is just an added bonus. The whole purpose of me taking this workshop is to see if I have the passion and talent to take my hobby to an at least part-time gig. We'll see how it goes!
The only "downside" (HA!) about this workshop is that you have to bring your own kit, which I am currently putting together! Even with having to get a kit together, the overall cost is still reasonable compared to other schools out there. Have to put together a kit at some point anyway, so I see this as getting a nice jump start!
funandfitnessjo
Member
keep the hell away from Elite Pro MakeUp Courses
Hi all
Have to say I love this forum. Lots of great resources and advice too.
Just an update on the following...
The quality of the Elite Pro Makeup course, not to mention finding out more stuff was missing from it, was and is pretty poor, considering the huge outlay.
I completed the required modules - thought I'd give it a chance - but it's not worth the money. I packaged it all up and sent it back for a refund. It takes up to three months for a refund - which is very dodgy.
It's only 3 days away and the three months refund period will be up -- and I haven't received my refund.
I've emailed them a few days ago and the response I got was that "they didn't have any information on it and would have to get back to me".
My advice -- keep the hell away from Elite Pro MakeUp Courses. All up it's cost me nearly $6000 due to all the dramas. It looks like I may have to get myself a laywer to get my refund... I'm so disappointed and feel absolutely ripped off.
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Hi all
Have to say I love this forum. Lots of great resources and advice too.
Just an update on the following...
The quality of the Elite Pro Makeup course, not to mention finding out more stuff was missing from it, was and is pretty poor, considering the huge outlay.
I completed the required modules - thought I'd give it a chance - but it's not worth the money. I packaged it all up and sent it back for a refund. It takes up to three months for a refund - which is very dodgy.
It's only 3 days away and the three months refund period will be up -- and I haven't received my refund.
I've emailed them a few days ago and the response I got was that "they didn't have any information on it and would have to get back to me".
My advice -- keep the hell away from Elite Pro MakeUp Courses. All up it's cost me nearly $6000 due to all the dramas. It looks like I may have to get myself a laywer to get my refund... I'm so disappointed and feel absolutely ripped off.
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| Originally Posted by funandfitnessjo
I pretty much had hiccups from the get-go. I won't go into all of it because the post would take forever. Due to the Elite Pro course being translated from spanish (I think it's spanish) to english - there's spelling mistakes in the videos. The workbooks have some stuff written in another language so you'll need to google them for translation. And in some of the videos you're watching them talking and demonstrate makeup but the sound has been removed. Once in a while an english voice will chip in and narrate a sentence here n there. It's frustrating as the person who is talking flat out in another language demonstrating the makeup (that you can't hear) - but just watch - is probably offering really good information. They also have a song that plays in the background of nearly every video. I'm not sure if it's to do with the translation of the music or what but it's the same chorus over and over again saying something about a "mother f---" something or rather. It drives you nuts to the point where you want to turn down the sound because you can't stand listening to the same old chorus repeated for hours on end every time you watch the dvd's. The whole package in general comes across as very unprofessional and amateurish. If they're going to provide an english course they need to ensure it's done properly. For the amount the course costs it's needs to be more thorough and match the claims they make about it in their sales pitches. This company is supposed to be world renowned within the fashion and makeup industry. But you wouldn't think so from the course. When I received my package the box was trashed and some of the contents was damaged with some stuff missing. After contacting them they said they'd send me replacements. They didn't turn up. I then noticed I had a dvd module missing so I spoke with them again. After several emails back and forth they phoned me because I said I wanted a refund and was sick and tired of all the dramas. But was told unless I completed two modules I couldn't get my refund. They said this is stated in their guarantee - however I didn't receive a copy of this until AFTER I had forked out the $4500. Apparently it's on their site however their site was experiencing script errors when I was purchasing the course causing problems with their online shopping cart which lead me to having to purchase the course over the phone. We agreed they'd extend my guarantee and would get onto sending me the replacement for the missing and damaged contents. The staff are friendly but when there's continual problems it's not worth the expense. And you getting the feeling they are not up to scratch when they blame other staff members for certain stuff-ups. Also if you want to work in areas of make up and beauty where you need specific qualifications due to your state's training requirements then I wouldn't recommend this course either. I'm sure there could be others that have enjoyed this course but I don't think it's worth the money. You're better off attending a course. |
Tink023
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You're totally right. I went to Makeup School and when we'd be learning something new I'd go and find it on youtube first and usually the videos were better than my actually teachers!
| Originally Posted by stacylynne
If you want to save $$$. Just go on youtube. Everything you want to learn will be on youtube. |
You're totally right. I went to Makeup School and when we'd be learning something new I'd go and find it on youtube first and usually the videos were better than my actually teachers!
metal_romantic
Well-known member
I am currently studying the advanced program with Elite Pro and thankfully I am having a better experience than the others who have posted. Maybe they have improved the course? I am really enjoying it.
Lol @ the quote about the music! Yeh it sounds like "mother******"! How weird. It's playing in my head right now! Ugh!
Lol @ the quote about the music! Yeh it sounds like "mother******"! How weird. It's playing in my head right now! Ugh!
funandfitnessjo
Member
Re: keep the hell away from Elite Pro MakeUp Courses
Quick update...
Re: Elite Pro - Advanced Makeup and Image Consulting Package
After completing the Advance Make Up assignment and modules required for a refund, Elite Pro then informed me that they had recently changed the guarantee and that I had to also complete the Image Consulting modules as well according to their new guarantee. Which is pretty unprofessional and dodgy. I wasn't happy but did it anyway.
I completed ALL of the modules and assignments required, the Tutor marked them, Student Services confirmed it, and promised me again that I would receive a refund but it would take up to 90 days to receive it.
It cost me nearly $700 Australian to bubble wrap, package and post the complete course, all it’s contents, and bonuses back to Elite Pro in Madrid. This also included insurance to ensure the package arrived safely. To ensure there was no excuses for them not to refund. I also took photos of it before I sealed the box. As I don't trust this company as far as I can throw them.
Student Services emailed me to confirm that it had arrived and that I would receive my refund within 3 months (90 day period).
Five months have now passed by and I haven’t received my refund. All up, with expenses and the course, it’s cost me $6000.
I have contacted and phoned Elite Pro on quite a few occasions over the past few months. All I get is excuses, with Student Services saying that they promise they will refund my money, but it never occurs.
I asked Student Services if I could speak to the head person in “accounts” and they said there was no point because they couldn’t understand English. They then advised me to write an email stating my concerns, they would translate it and email “accounts”. I did this. But Student Services still continues to state that accounts won’t give them any reason why the refund hasn’t been issued.
The last two times I’ve emailed Student Services at Elite Pro inquiring about the refund, they haven't replied.
I have so many emails back and forth from Elite Pro due to the ongoing mishaps it’s not funny.
I have now sought legal advice and am working on trying to at least get something back, if that's possible. I don't like my chances. This company should be reported.
I regret the day I ever got involved and have a rotten gut feeling that this is all just one big scam!
Take care all
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Glad you're having a good experience... in regards to the mother f--- I mentioned this to them and student services said the following...
Student Services...
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About the music, I had just popped in a DVD as I could not believe that we would use such a thing as background music…I listened to the entire thing, but did not hear Mother f**k**…I also never heard of a students mention this before
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Frankly, I have no faith in this company what so ever. Apparently someone else was waiting ages for a refund too, as well myself.
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Quick update...
Re: Elite Pro - Advanced Makeup and Image Consulting Package
After completing the Advance Make Up assignment and modules required for a refund, Elite Pro then informed me that they had recently changed the guarantee and that I had to also complete the Image Consulting modules as well according to their new guarantee. Which is pretty unprofessional and dodgy. I wasn't happy but did it anyway.
I completed ALL of the modules and assignments required, the Tutor marked them, Student Services confirmed it, and promised me again that I would receive a refund but it would take up to 90 days to receive it.
It cost me nearly $700 Australian to bubble wrap, package and post the complete course, all it’s contents, and bonuses back to Elite Pro in Madrid. This also included insurance to ensure the package arrived safely. To ensure there was no excuses for them not to refund. I also took photos of it before I sealed the box. As I don't trust this company as far as I can throw them.
Student Services emailed me to confirm that it had arrived and that I would receive my refund within 3 months (90 day period).
Five months have now passed by and I haven’t received my refund. All up, with expenses and the course, it’s cost me $6000.
I have contacted and phoned Elite Pro on quite a few occasions over the past few months. All I get is excuses, with Student Services saying that they promise they will refund my money, but it never occurs.
I asked Student Services if I could speak to the head person in “accounts” and they said there was no point because they couldn’t understand English. They then advised me to write an email stating my concerns, they would translate it and email “accounts”. I did this. But Student Services still continues to state that accounts won’t give them any reason why the refund hasn’t been issued.
The last two times I’ve emailed Student Services at Elite Pro inquiring about the refund, they haven't replied.
I have so many emails back and forth from Elite Pro due to the ongoing mishaps it’s not funny.
I have now sought legal advice and am working on trying to at least get something back, if that's possible. I don't like my chances. This company should be reported.
I regret the day I ever got involved and have a rotten gut feeling that this is all just one big scam!
Take care all
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Glad you're having a good experience... in regards to the mother f--- I mentioned this to them and student services said the following...
Student Services...
---------------------
About the music, I had just popped in a DVD as I could not believe that we would use such a thing as background music…I listened to the entire thing, but did not hear Mother f**k**…I also never heard of a students mention this before
---------------------
Frankly, I have no faith in this company what so ever. Apparently someone else was waiting ages for a refund too, as well myself.
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| Originally Posted by funandfitnessjo
Hi all Have to say I love this forum. Lots of great resources and advice too. Just an update on the following... The quality of the Elite Pro Makeup course, not to mention finding out more stuff was missing from it, was and is pretty poor, considering the huge outlay. I completed the required modules - thought I'd give it a chance - but it's not worth the money. I packaged it all up and sent it back for a refund. It takes up to three months for a refund - which is very dodgy. It's only 3 days away and the three months refund period will be up -- and I haven't received my refund. I've emailed them a few days ago and the response I got was that "they didn't have any information on it and would have to get back to me". My advice -- keep the hell away from Elite Pro MakeUp Courses. All up it's cost me nearly $6000 due to all the dramas. It looks like I may have to get myself a laywer to get my refund... I'm so disappointed and feel absolutely ripped off.
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allthatgl1tt3rs
Well-known member
Unfortunately I have to say, after checking out the prices for the Elite Pro courses I thought NUH-UH! There are courses out there that you can attend in person and be taught by well-recognised and respected industry professionals for these prices!
I was highly suspicious of a course claiming it could completely qualify you simply through the Internet but hey - I checked it out to see what they had to say for themselves. But when I saw the prices I was like NO WAY! I mean, I wouldn't be even getting the full class experience. I wouldn't have other students to practice on (granted I could ask a bunch of friends but sometimes it's hard when you need them there pretty much whilst you practice!). They don't offer you the environment, the tools, the materials, the on-hand tutors. If I had a question, I couldn't just turn around and ask the tutor - I'd have to phone/email.
The other thing was when I wanted to sign up for some more info they bombarded me with one sometimes 2 or more emails a day asking me what I was thinking of doing, had I any questions etc, etc. Seems fairly friendly and caring enough but they're automated emails sent out to make sure I keep thinking about them, get my bum in gear and send them the money they want!
Where are the real people?! It seems such a shame that you can't trust Internet sources but when I can't talk to real people and they're promising miracles I get deeply suspicious! When something looks too good to be true, it often is!
I have heard from so many people that you cannot skimp on these things - but for those of us who are in more remote parts of the country that don't live near a makeup college/school/academy of sorts it's a lot harder to build upon and even begin a career - especially when the course itself costs a lotta money!
But to any of you who are thinking of taking a course but are afraid to make the leap (the journey, the move) I recommend you think about it first. If you want it badly enough I'm sure there are ways around it - e.g. do you have any family/friends who live in the same town/state/area as the school? If so I'm sure you could ask to move in with them while you study? Sure it's a large favour but hey, you can always return it!
I'm so sorry for you guys who've suffered at the hands of the scammer course providers! And I wish you every bit of luck trying to get your money back!
I was highly suspicious of a course claiming it could completely qualify you simply through the Internet but hey - I checked it out to see what they had to say for themselves. But when I saw the prices I was like NO WAY! I mean, I wouldn't be even getting the full class experience. I wouldn't have other students to practice on (granted I could ask a bunch of friends but sometimes it's hard when you need them there pretty much whilst you practice!). They don't offer you the environment, the tools, the materials, the on-hand tutors. If I had a question, I couldn't just turn around and ask the tutor - I'd have to phone/email.
The other thing was when I wanted to sign up for some more info they bombarded me with one sometimes 2 or more emails a day asking me what I was thinking of doing, had I any questions etc, etc. Seems fairly friendly and caring enough but they're automated emails sent out to make sure I keep thinking about them, get my bum in gear and send them the money they want!
Where are the real people?! It seems such a shame that you can't trust Internet sources but when I can't talk to real people and they're promising miracles I get deeply suspicious! When something looks too good to be true, it often is!
I have heard from so many people that you cannot skimp on these things - but for those of us who are in more remote parts of the country that don't live near a makeup college/school/academy of sorts it's a lot harder to build upon and even begin a career - especially when the course itself costs a lotta money!
But to any of you who are thinking of taking a course but are afraid to make the leap (the journey, the move) I recommend you think about it first. If you want it badly enough I'm sure there are ways around it - e.g. do you have any family/friends who live in the same town/state/area as the school? If so I'm sure you could ask to move in with them while you study? Sure it's a large favour but hey, you can always return it!
I'm so sorry for you guys who've suffered at the hands of the scammer course providers! And I wish you every bit of luck trying to get your money back!
