Napoleon Perdis cosmetics

ballerino

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Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

napoleon academy = want to learn how to be a napoleon sales girl? go here.
dont go expecting to learn anything other than that - no matter what u hear - if someone tells u otherwise, they have no idea about makeup.

theyre makeup stinks also...
have heard horror stories about their foundations reacting w girls skin...
their lipglosses are absolutely disgusting!
his eyeshadows arent his (though u guys have already discussed that)

just my 2 cents worth
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napoleon = evil!
 

Ella_

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Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

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Originally Posted by ballerino
have heard horror stories about their foundations reacting w girls skin

Yeah, their foundation stick left me with a systemic allergic reaction that saw me in hospital and caused blisters which scarred - 4 years later ive still got ugly scars where the blisters were...
 

misshapes

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Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

^^OMG. That's really bad! How horrible. I recently had a bad reaction to Revlon's Skinlights powder. Which is terrible because I loved how it looks.

Anyways, back to Napoleon: I tried out the jet black mascara. It's strange. Quite smudgey. You know how mascaras have fibres to extend and add volume? Well, I could actually see each fibre flaking off onto my cheek. Much fun.

I only spent AUD$7 on it so no great loss. But man, I would've been peeved if I spent the $30 on it.
 

Regalis

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Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

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Originally Posted by pinkykss
I hate people calling this Brand the "Australian MAC".... mostly because Napoleon himself is a national embarresment (you'll understand if you see what he looks like) but also because a lot of his products are much cheaper names, rebranded

old post, quoting it for truth :| He's actually the... second cousin? I think? of one of my mom's best friends, so I've met him a few times, and a bigger jerk you could not find. I don't so much care that he uses his own product, it's more the gross overuse that bothers me; caked on foundation, gunky eyeliner, and so much fake tan that he's actually an eyesmarting shade of orange. Andddd I won't even get into how he treats people :{. I just mean... I find it hard to trust the 'creator' of a cosmetic line who goes around looking and acting the way he does.

</two cents>

ETA: redambition, would you say that the bloom primer's not worth the money, then? :{ I was considering picking some up this weekend because my red earth primer is almost GONE.
 

girloflowers

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Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

i can't believe i just wasted $30 on eyeliner that might eb rebranded. *cries*

WHY GOD WHY

also, napoleon horror story:

I used to be a humongous fangirl, but after reading this thread you girls reminded me of a very strange thing.

My friend got her makeup done for our year 10 formal at napoleon right? Well when she was done i wondered why she looked kind of orange. I looked at the products that they had used on her and that she bought and what did i find?

The liquid foundation she bought was a shade too light, which make its really wierd that the POWDER was two shades -too dark- for her skin.

woohoo waste of money much?
 

redambition

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Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

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Originally Posted by Regalis
ETA: redambition, would you say that the bloom primer's not worth the money, then? :{ I was considering picking some up this weekend because my red earth primer is almost GONE.

it might work for you... i wouldn't say it's that bad. the formula is a bit thin and it's scented quite strongly. my main issue with it is that it irritates my skin and turns my face bright red. i have skin that's a bit touchy though, so it's probably me that it doesn't agree with. to put it in perspective - i can't use the red earth primers, because they make the skin on the back of my hand itchy when i try them on.

in terms of the bloom primer making makeup last - it does the job.
 

jeitzen

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Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

I love the loose dust powder--I think it has better consistancy than MAC pigments and it last foreverrr! I use my Napoleon loose powder every day, I want more.
 

Kuuipo

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Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

Quote:
Originally Posted by girloflowers
i can't believe i just wasted $30 on eyeliner that might eb rebranded. *cries*

WHY GOD WHY

also, napoleon horror story:

I used to be a humongous fangirl, but after reading this thread you girls reminded me of a very strange thing.

My friend got her makeup done for our year 10 formal at napoleon right? Well when she was done i wondered why she looked kind of orange. I looked at the products that they had used on her and that she bought and what did i find?

The liquid foundation she bought was a shade too light, which make its really wierd that the POWDER was two shades -too dark- for her skin.

woohoo waste of money much?


Napolean himself is orange.
 
Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

Ok Here goes.......

Some of the things that are posted on this thread is complete gossip/rubbish. You guys need to be a little more open minded.

First of all... Napoleon Perdis Cosmetics is NOT a rebranded label. If you give it a try it is actually a really great cosmetics brand.
And of course its going to be expensive overseas- it is an imported product. Im from Australia, and Napoleon is an icon here. Loyal fans will pay $500AUD (redeemable) to get there makeup done by him. And for them its worth every penny.
MAC in Australia is quite alot more expensive than napoleon. NP (i will abbrev from here) is medium priced if you are using quality proffesional products (im not talking crap revlon and maybelline).
As for being branded over the top of La Femme labels- that is BS. Ive been using the Camera Finish for years and have never once seen this happen. A Napoleon Staff member who is a friend of mine has been to the warehouse when Napoleon took her over to NY for the first launch of Saks. There MAY have been some stuff when he first opened 11 years ago, but all of the things that are in the range now are new and developed by himself. Dont worry Kuuipo, the eyeliner you bought is not rebranded and its awesome.
(what about mac selling out to estee? there stuff was way better before this happened, the pigment qualities have gone downhill)
As for Napoleon himself being orange- yes this is true there is no doubting that. He loves bronzer and solariums and does take it a little too far but thats just his OTT flamboyant style.
As for his foundations and makeovers being orange-- as most professional MUA's would know- you must match the foundation colour to the rest of your body- not just the skin on your face. We all use SPF on our faces these days and it can make the skin on your face very pale compared to the rest of our body. So if any one ever has a makeover and there face looks orange this is probably just because they are not used to a correct colour match. Or they have a hideous spray tan on which often occurs with Formals/Proms.

The makeup academy--- if anyone has ever done a course they would know that just becasue you have been taught the techniques this does not make you a good MUA. The certificate course (which i have done myself) only goes for 9 weeks one day a week. You are taught all the techniques then it is up to you to practice and gain other knowledge though PRACTICE. Its like riding a bike. no one can tell you how to do it than you simply get on and do it. everything takes practise. The course is not designed (as someone said) to make you a makeup counter slave- it is just that most girls are too lazy after the course so they result to the easist option. The trainers in these academys are extremely talented many of them working on large scale movies, fashion shows MIRANDA KERR (victorias secret angel)..
and also another point-- the certificate is advertised as a "hobby" kind of course to teach you the simple techniques for fashion bridal and glamour, not to make you a real MUA as soon as you finsih. The diploma is the course that makes you a "real" makeup artist. However most young girls see a makeup course as something easy to do after they finish school to keep there parents happy, resulting in an undedicated student who ends up failing.
In the long run its you who makes yourself an amazing makeup artist, not a certicate that says so.
The well known teacher that told you NP academy was not respected in the industry was also probably just trying to sell there own course- Just like when you go to a new hairdresser and they tell you your last cut was uneven..

As for the eyeliner somebody was talking about, it is exactly the same as fuidline and does stay on. Ive slept in it (i know bad) and its STILL on in the morning..

The laquers are extremely sticky- but they need to be sticky to last for 4 hours on the lips and still have high shine.
Yes they used to sell BEN NYE back in the day when they first opened academys because they still use it for SPFX and drag.

The minimal makeup with camera finish over the top is BEAUTIFUL.
The loose dust pigment are very easy to blend, unlike some MAC pigments which are so grainy.
There 19b foundation brush is awesome and not too expensive.
Also there 16b brush for socket blending.

If any one gets a chance to have a make over with a girl called Rebecca Prior do so. She is NPs international makeup artist and does awesome work.

I use alot of NP products in my kit and most of my clients end up going to go and purchase the products after there events, it photographs beautifully and lasts for ages. I also have a lot of MAC products (fave is Tempting eyeshadow) and i do love MAC lipsticks. But by far love NP foundations alot better- people with tanned skin try China doll foundation in look 4..
I would also have a lot more MAC products in my kit however everytime i go to a MAC counter i am ignored until i get peeved off and leave. (the MAC girls in Aus are so rude!!)

Anyway i have had my vent now i just ask people to be more open minded and dont believe everything you hear. Give him a chance. He might act like an OTT orange idiot but hes excited and all he wants to do is make every woman feel amazing..

PS the primer and pore minimizer are also amazing.. bloom primer not so great. also try ModelCo primer
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redambition

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Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

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Originally Posted by jessicajessicax
MAC in Australia is quite alot more expensive than napoleon.

i'm going to have to disagree on that one. i remember from the few times i've looked at napoleon products that they were more expensive than MAC.

It's a pity his Australian site now only shows the US pricing. I can't check it to be sure.

As for the Napoleon makeup courses: they aren't taken seriously in the industry. there was also an "out" on another forum i read - a napoleon student admitted that from the first week of the diploma course they are offered work experience in napoleon stores doing makeovers... despite the fact that they may have never applied makeup to another person before. (work experience is part of the requirements of the diploma course). these students are also not allowed to tell the paying customers that they are students, nor are they allowed to say that they are doing work experience.

there are so many things wrong with the above situation that it's not funny. the biggest problem i have is that a customer paying for a makeover is getting someone who is not qualified, and isn't informed that a student will be working on them.
 
Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

The students are offered work experience at counters and stores after they finish the course not during. They might be asked whilst doing induction but they are not allowed to till after completion unless they are really advanced. And all work experience students have to wear an Academy Tshirt.

NP eyeshadow- $24
Mac eyeshadow- $32
Foundations are sometimes more expensive, but they have larger quantity of product.
 

redambition

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Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

That's not what i heard - as i said, someone who was in that position posted the story. if it's not true then that's good for the paying customers.

I do remember NP being the more expensive choice for something i was after a while ago - i think it was bronzer, and then later as you said - foundation.

just as a side note - the only NP foundation that's bigger than the MAC equivalent is the stick foundation. then you get to the issue of the limited range of shades... but NP isn't the only makeup company with this issue.
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_trimm_trabb

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Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

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Anyway i have had my vent now i just ask people to be more open minded and dont believe everything you hear. Give him a chance. He might act like an OTT orange idiot but hes excited and all he wants to do is make every woman feel amazing..

People aren't just "believing what they hear," they are stating what they've experienced. I've wasted money on his products before and they were crap. And I *do* know how to apply makeup.

Why does it being imported give it an excuse to be so overpriced? I can see $15 for a mascara instead of $12, but $25? I buy from several lines that are imported from all over the world and don't cost nearly as much as Napoleon's junk.

You can disagree with the people on this topic and not state that they are all wrong. If people have had poor experiences with the makeup line, it's an honest thing, they are not just ganging up on some poor orange man who "wants to make every woman feel beautiful."
 

amoona

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Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

All I have to say is that the Napoleon store in San Francisco gets NO customers. Their artists standing in front of the store offer up free make-overs, I saw that in Hollywood too haha.

I personally gave them a try when they first opened up here. Hell before getting loads of free make-up from MAC I was willing to spend money on any cosmetics I liked. I tried it, product didn't work well and it didn't impress me. Their SF store was busy when it first opened too, so I guess other people were giving them a try as well.

And jessicajessicax, I understand that you're a big Napoleon fan and their eyeliner worked for you but it sure as hell didn't work on me. It smuged after an hour or so. Fluideline just works better for me, I even tried Stila's smudgepot and didn't like it. It just happens, sometimes something doesn't work for some people and it works for others. I'm just wondering if they changed their stupid no return/no exchange policy here yet.
 

Shimmer

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Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

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Originally Posted by jessicajessicax
MAC in Australia is quite alot more expensive than napoleon. NP (i will abbrev from here) is medium priced if you are using quality proffesional products (im not talking crap revlon and maybelline).

There are actually some fairly decent products from those lines, labeling them as 'crap' is pretty closed minded.
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As for his foundations and makeovers being orange-- as most professional MUA's would know- you must match the foundation colour to the rest of your body- not just the skin on your face. We all use SPF on our faces these days and it can make the skin on your face very pale compared to the rest of our body. So if any one ever has a makeover and there face looks orange this is probably just because they are not used to a correct colour match. Or they have a hideous spray tan on which often occurs with Formals/Proms.

mmm. I disagree with this. Rare is the woman whose face is the same color as her chest and shoulders, though it would, I suppose, make an artist's job easier. Foundation needs to match my face, not my shoulders or leg or belly button.
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it is just that most girls are too lazy after the course so they result to the easist option.

How rude.
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The well known teacher that told you NP academy was not respected in the industry was also probably just trying to sell there own course- Just like when you go to a new hairdresser and they tell you your last cut was uneven..

Not at all unlike this whole post, eh? Does this line always require a hard sell?
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everytime i go to a MAC counter i am ignored until i get peeved off and leave. (the MAC girls in Aus are so rude!!)

All of them? Interesting.
 

girloflowers

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Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

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Originally Posted by Kuuipo
Napolean himself is orange.

this is true.

i can hack fake tan ugh. bronzer can go bye bye.

no one -no one- is naturally orange.

an if i want to buy good quality 'professional products. I will buy them from a line where the head of it doesn't look like a complete and utter joke, y' know?

still, i'll keep the two products i do ahve, mainly because the eyeshadow was a gift and the eyeliner actually looks pretty good on me.
 

_ohmygosh

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Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jessicajessicax
Ok Here goes.......

Some of the things that are posted on this thread is complete gossip/rubbish. You guys need to be a little more open minded.

First of all... Napoleon Perdis Cosmetics is NOT a rebranded label. If you give it a try it is actually a really great cosmetics brand.
And of course its going to be expensive overseas- it is an imported product. Im from Australia, and Napoleon is an icon here. Loyal fans will pay $500AUD (redeemable) to get there makeup done by him. And for them its worth every penny.
MAC in Australia is quite alot more expensive than napoleon. NP (i will abbrev from here) is medium priced if you are using quality proffesional products (im not talking crap revlon and maybelline).
As for being branded over the top of La Femme labels- that is BS. Ive been using the Camera Finish for years and have never once seen this happen. A Napoleon Staff member who is a friend of mine has been to the warehouse when Napoleon took her over to NY for the first launch of Saks. There MAY have been some stuff when he first opened 11 years ago, but all of the things that are in the range now are new and developed by himself. Dont worry Kuuipo, the eyeliner you bought is not rebranded and its awesome.
(what about mac selling out to estee? there stuff was way better before this happened, the pigment qualities have gone downhill)
As for Napoleon himself being orange- yes this is true there is no doubting that. He loves bronzer and solariums and does take it a little too far but thats just his OTT flamboyant style.
As for his foundations and makeovers being orange-- as most professional MUA's would know- you must match the foundation colour to the rest of your body- not just the skin on your face. We all use SPF on our faces these days and it can make the skin on your face very pale compared to the rest of our body. So if any one ever has a makeover and there face looks orange this is probably just because they are not used to a correct colour match. Or they have a hideous spray tan on which often occurs with Formals/Proms.

The makeup academy--- if anyone has ever done a course they would know that just becasue you have been taught the techniques this does not make you a good MUA. The certificate course (which i have done myself) only goes for 9 weeks one day a week. You are taught all the techniques then it is up to you to practice and gain other knowledge though PRACTICE. Its like riding a bike. no one can tell you how to do it than you simply get on and do it. everything takes practise. The course is not designed (as someone said) to make you a makeup counter slave- it is just that most girls are too lazy after the course so they result to the easist option. The trainers in these academys are extremely talented many of them working on large scale movies, fashion shows MIRANDA KERR (victorias secret angel)..
and also another point-- the certificate is advertised as a "hobby" kind of course to teach you the simple techniques for fashion bridal and glamour, not to make you a real MUA as soon as you finsih. The diploma is the course that makes you a "real" makeup artist. However most young girls see a makeup course as something easy to do after they finish school to keep there parents happy, resulting in an undedicated student who ends up failing.
In the long run its you who makes yourself an amazing makeup artist, not a certicate that says so.
The well known teacher that told you NP academy was not respected in the industry was also probably just trying to sell there own course- Just like when you go to a new hairdresser and they tell you your last cut was uneven..

As for the eyeliner somebody was talking about, it is exactly the same as fuidline and does stay on. Ive slept in it (i know bad) and its STILL on in the morning..

The laquers are extremely sticky- but they need to be sticky to last for 4 hours on the lips and still have high shine.
Yes they used to sell BEN NYE back in the day when they first opened academys because they still use it for SPFX and drag.

The minimal makeup with camera finish over the top is BEAUTIFUL.
The loose dust pigment are very easy to blend, unlike some MAC pigments which are so grainy.
There 19b foundation brush is awesome and not too expensive.
Also there 16b brush for socket blending.

If any one gets a chance to have a make over with a girl called Rebecca Prior do so. She is NPs international makeup artist and does awesome work.

I use alot of NP products in my kit and most of my clients end up going to go and purchase the products after there events, it photographs beautifully and lasts for ages. I also have a lot of MAC products (fave is Tempting eyeshadow) and i do love MAC lipsticks. But by far love NP foundations alot better- people with tanned skin try China doll foundation in look 4..
I would also have a lot more MAC products in my kit however everytime i go to a MAC counter i am ignored until i get peeved off and leave. (the MAC girls in Aus are so rude!!)

Anyway i have had my vent now i just ask people to be more open minded and dont believe everything you hear. Give him a chance. He might act like an OTT orange idiot but hes excited and all he wants to do is make every woman feel amazing..

PS the primer and pore minimizer are also amazing.. bloom primer not so great. also try ModelCo primer
smiles.gif


Isn't it expensive because it's being imported as well as Napoleon being exported overseas?.
Maybe I miss something..?


I disagree, I find NP girls are more rude/pushy/intimidating... the ones I've come across (not making an overall stereotype) and some have no idea what they are talking about, the MAC girls (and boy) I know are wonderful, so much friendly and don't stop mid conversation to try to sell you things/tell you that you're wrong and so and so is better/talk to their friends.

And did you mention that work experience happens after the diploma? I thought it is required that you participate in work experience during your course to gain some experience out of the "classroom" for you to become qualified and gain a certificate.

Not targeting youjessicajessicax, you do have some good points! I'm just confused.
 

_ohmygosh

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Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

I like the auto pilot primer! I also recommend Laura Mercier as well. It's brilliant!
 
Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

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Originally Posted by _ohmygosh
Isn't it expensive because it's being imported as well as Napoleon being exported overseas?.
Maybe I miss something..?


I disagree, I find NP girls are more rude/pushy/intimidating... the ones I've come across (not making an overall stereotype) and some have no idea what they are talking about, the MAC girls (and boy) I know are wonderful, so much friendly and don't stop mid conversation to try to sell you things/tell you that you're wrong and so and so is better/talk to their friends.

And did you mention that work experience happens after the diploma? I thought it is required that you participate in work experience during your course to gain some experience out of the "classroom" for you to become qualified and gain a certificate.

Not targeting youjessicajessicax, you do have some good points! I'm just confused.


yes you do do work expereince, but not at counters- you must have missed some points earlier on in the thread. someone was saying that they have untrained students working on counters doing makeup. They are allowed to work on counters after the course. but yes they do work experience during the course but it is more fashion shows, small films and other events.

your probably right about the NP girls compared to the MAC girls- everywhere is going to be different i guess, it all depends on the manager and the service standard. both companies have high customer sefvice expectations but not all staff are going to do what they are told. ive been to the sydney NPs and they were pretty stuck up. but where i live there is only one mac store and beleive me they are soooo rude. i wasnt saying it about all mac workers, just the ones in my area.
 
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