Napoleon Perdis cosmetics

captodometer

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Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

NP is less expensive than MAC here in New Zealand. And it's not a hard sell, at least in the stores where I have seen it. The display was nicely set up, and the counter staff is more than happy to let you play in peace. People do actually buy the stuff
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No comment on quality: I liked the stuff I tested, but haven't purchased any makeup at all in the last 8 months.
 

kurisuteru

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Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

I work at the Galerie de Beaute of SDM in Canada, and instead of promoting the brands we carry (Dior, Lancome, Chanel, Lise Watier, etc.), I'd still slip with some clients and find myself praising the all mighty MAC har har har. I'm not particularly loyal to one brand due to my multifaceted needs (Lancome for the foundations, Dior and Guerlain for the lippies, etc.), and although MAC remains a favorite, there are certain products that I do find that are "hits" or "miss" (i.e. the dreadful lustres)

Hmm, well repackaging or no repackaging, last week I have found the perfect shade of cherry red I've been looking for to replicate from a magazine and a hot pink lip liner I've also searched relentlessly to match my newly-purchased Lancome lippie. Although I am 50.00$ poorer, I came out of The Bay as a happy woman. Obviously though, if I had access to La Femme products, I would've chosen that over NP. While Napoleon being a true makeup artist is highly debatable, I do think though that we could all agree that he is a business man whose goal is not primarily to make a woman "feel beautiful" but really, to make profit. It was really though Napoleon that La Femme has managed to reach a larger niche market, and in the smaller scheme of things, how a Montrealer has managed to get her hands on that perfect cherry lipstick.

I'm pretty glad I found some of the warnings about the Napoleon foundations here at Specktra, but at the same time, I thought that it was still nice being able to try out a brand with a "blank slate." Back to the "hits" and "misses", NP is no exception, and I would still encourage everyone to try the line out without thinking of the Creepy Orange Man.
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Renee

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Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

This line is 50% off at sephora stores and online!
 

wordgirl

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Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

Even at 50 percent off much of it is probably overpriced.

I've done my own side-by-side comparisons of many of the La Femme/Your Name cosmetics and Napoleon. I can state for a fact that that there are many identical products. Same ingredients, same packaging, identical.

In particular, I tested several shades of the NP & LF eye dusts and the concealers. The ingredient list is the same and the products wear and use exactly the same (the concealer colors are a little off, though.)

The primer is OK, but the rest of the line ..... you can do MUCH better.
 

-moonflower-

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From what I've heard, it's all just his label on alright products that you can get for half the price elsewhere.
I don't think I'll be trying out this brand.
 

Vesu

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Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

I am amazed at some of the heresay being taken as truth in this thread. I'm further amazed that fellow Aussies are joining in on the slagging.

I attended a makeup course at the Napoleon Perdis academy, I have used his products and I've worked in the cosmetics industry. I've also watched Napoleon at work and have met the man.

I don't think the stuff is rebranded. Many cosmetics houses share manufacturers but that doesn't mean the product then becomes identical. I find distinct differences between NP products and the products they are supposed to be.

The positives about the course was that it was well structured and supplied with working notes, provided good facilities, all makeup materials were provided and access was given to Fashion Week which is a great experience/networking opportunity for any budding MUA.

The negatives about the course were that pressure was applied to students into purchasing the brush roll with staff saying that it was a necessary component although the pre-course notes stated otherwise. I bought the roll because I didn't have a full kit at the time but oddly, we were asked to sign a disclaimer regarding any faults with the brushes. I refused to sign this and nothing was said, though. Years later I am still using those brushes and they're still going strong. While I appreciate this, I didn't appreciate the pressure at the time. Another unfortunate aspect was that the staff would change each week with some of them being as new to the industry as I was and a lot of them parlayed the belief that students would be 'real makeup artists' upon graduation.

Furthermore, I was offered work experience after I'd completed my course, was advised I would have to wear the t-shirt (which I was expected to purchase) and there was no embargo regarding what I was allowed to say and not say to customers.

I have NP products in my kit and, yes, like any line, there'll be some products you won't like but that's life. You move past them and move on. The price point is equal to that of MAC and having used MAC as well, I'd say they're pretty much on par with each other. But, if you don't like the price for NP then don't buy them. Use something else. But if you haven't tried them and make a judgement that they're bad because someone else has said they are, well that says more about you than it does about NP.

Napoleon is a self taught makeup artist. He makes no bones about this. Having watched him in action, he makes a good job of it. Unlike other "star" makeup artists I have come across, NP took time out to chat and answer questions at his appearances and provides a generous discount to makeup artists who use his products. Another thing people should know is that the company is not solely owned by Napoleon. His wife, brother and others own parts of it and are run accordingly.

To be honest, I really don't care what he looks like. It shouldn't matter. If he was black and someone made comments about his appearance as I've read in here there'd be uproar. But because he's a European migrant, smart and a marketing genius, he is poked fun at for his deportment and digs made about his sexuality.

The man is worth $45 million. Ten years ago he was taking makeup short courses. His makeup has put the Australian makeup industry on the map.

If it's anyone having the last laugh I reckon it's him.
 

CantMAKEUPmyMIND

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NP is creating a cheaper sub brand for Target in the US. It'll be in stores in August.
 

Dimple

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Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

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Originally Posted by pinkykss
I hate people calling this Brand the "Australian MAC".... mostly because Napoleon himself is a national embarresment (you'll understand if you see what he looks like) but also because a lot of his products are much cheaper names, rebranded

I totally agree. I have used Napoleon makeup before and its not worth the money. The is no way, no way (need to stress this) that brand would be close to the Aussie Mac.

The staying power and quality isnt so great.
 

lara

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Originally Posted by Vesu
I am amazed at some of the heresay being taken as truth in this thread. I'm further amazed that fellow Aussies are joining in on the slagging.

What does being an Australian do with expressing a negative opinion? Just because you share the same country of origin as someone doesn't make you an automatic cheerleader for them.
 

kjaneb

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Originally Posted by lara
What does being an Australian do with expressing a negative opinion? Just because you share the same country of origin as someone doesn't make you an automatic cheerleader for them.

Agreed! I'm not a huge fan of NP cosmetics, but I haven't tried a lot. My sister does use one of his foundations and likes it though. I did but a blush brush from there though and I *HATE* it. It's scratchy and the bristles are weird and crinkly, I really don't think it was worth the $55 I paid for it.
 
Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

I've heard very good things and also some talk of him in relation to a reality show where MUA's compete....
 

HeavenLeiBlu

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Just FYI, all his stuff is 50% off at Sephora. I'm assuming that's until it's all gone
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miss_emc

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I just got a job with Napoleon. I haven't really used much of the products before. The reason i accepted the position is because it's a great position with a lot of opportunity. I've worked for MAC, Inglot, Benefit, Estee Lauder Bureau (all brands) and Jurlique and i'm not partial to one particular brand. I think people should probably be a bit more open minded with their product awareness as opposed to their brand awareness. Each brand has their heros and their duds.
 

psychotums

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I recently purchased a few NP products off of Sephora just to try because of the 75% off sale. Though the reviews in this thread are mostly negative, I have heard a lot of good things about this brand also. My order should be in in a week or so. I'll have to test out what I bought and let you all know.
 

Nzsallyb

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i like NP's brushes - they are good quality for what you pay here in NZ (half the price of mac brushes). but i can definitely see the similarities between some of the products, but no one is going to make anyone buy whatever product from what ever brand, it is their choice.

but the MA's that ive seen in NZ are all orangey tanned, and have bleach blonde hair, with a tendancy to place LOUD music with the speakers facing up at you from the counter - that is my one peeve with the brand (the music that is)
 

hooked*on*mac

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Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

WOW, this is quite the thread. A good Healthy Debate


i actually dont mind napoleon perdis products
(except NP's light defusing foundation, it cakes and makes you look 10 years older eeeeekkk)!!!!

in australia YES NP is cheaper than MAC based on RRP.

but other than that they do have a great line of cosmetics and skin care.
NP's loose dust is amazing and i love NP's Blush patrol!!!


My Personal experience with Napoleon Perdis....

I have gone into my local napoleon counter and spent over $1000.00 on the spot and have been treated like one of their best mates, I received an instant VIP 20% off rrp! free samples a free make over and free make over vouchers as well as a free T shirt and i left the store totally happy with all of my goodies!!!!
so from my personal experience i have found NP stores to be quite giving


My Personal experience with MAC....

my last visit to the local MAC PRO store and spent over $1000.00 on the spot and the consultant was the rudest piece of work i have ever come across she treated me crap - NO manners - POOR Customer Service skills - NO freebies - NO postcards - NO Samples NOTHING !!!

from this experience NEVER AGAIN WILL I EVER SHOP AT SYDNEYS MAC PRO STORE - they can kiss my money good bye!!!

i thought it was a crying shame that they can have such cold people representing their productucts and MAC cosmetics is my Number 1 brand, but i was not going to let a rude cow distort my veiws of the actual product.


for me i think this is a agree to disagree debate simply because it falls to personal oppinion to NP's Products

Napoleon Perdis is markets their product glowbally and they are growing everyday-

I have used their products and i am cofident with the quality of cosmetics that NP has to offer -


i feel that ultimately if they are giving aspiring MA's out there a chance to get into an extremely competative industrie they cant be all that bad =)



and i wish you the best of luck Jenna !!! =)
 

makeupbykade

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Re: Anyone ever heard of Napoleon Perdis cosmetics line?

I just purchased a few NP products from Sephora, as they were on sale for 75% off. So far I don't know what the fuss is all about, the line has some good items,and as I have read, some not so great ones as well. As for me, I have really dark skin and it is refreshing to find a foundation that not only matches but feels nice and makes my skin look flawless. I understand that you won't like every product from every line but geez, what's with all of the anger? I'm sure we can give our opinion of a product using FACTS (not heresay) and with a bit of love. That goes for both ends of the argument...lol!

Anyways...I'm an Esthetician, so the main criteria in judging a product for me is first, whether my skin and my clients skin will agree with the product, and second if I can find the proper color for myself. As for the other major product line mentioned in this thread, it fails both test, its too ashy and it breaks me out! We'll see how NP holds up in that aspect, but so far so good.

P.S. I am only refering to foundations by NP and MAC. I love MAC's shadows, and a few other products as well, but let some people on makeup forums tell it, they are the be all and end all of every makeup artists' kit.
 

kaexbabey

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napoleon perdis

is then napoleon perdis at target the same quality as it was when it was at sephora? i'd hope so because the prices seem the same.
 

Kiss and Makeup

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I tried a bit, and it seemed to be the same. Do you know why they stopped selling it at Sephora and why it went to Target?
 

kaexbabey

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Originally Posted by Kiss and Makeup
I tried a bit, and it seemed to be the same. Do you know why they stopped selling it at Sephora and why it went to Target?

no idea!
 
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