lafemmenoir
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Does that make it right? That seems a bit juvenile as does "He/she started it." I am glad I am more fact based than to take some statements here as law.
Photo Retouching vs the Real Picture
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glam8babe
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so what if im 17? it doesnt mean i havnt grown! i dont have big boobs but i have a nice 'juicy' butt too i have hips, thighs and im proud that i do so your saying im not a woman yet? god sake theres 12 year olds out there who have bigger tits than 30 yr olds. every1 grows differently and at different stages in life so who are you to say "your not a woman yet" well im glad im young anyway! its not a bad thing now is it
Originally Posted by BeautyPsycho
Oh my... real women have curves? Who said that? 17 year old? You are not a woman yet... Females come in different shapes and sizes, and this thread is supposed to show us how silly it is to try and make everyone look exactly the same! And then we have "0 is where its at" and "real women have curves"... Well, we come in different shapes and sizes, and we are all REAL! I don't have big boobs,but I believe that my butt is really nice and juicy- does that make me half-real? 
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so what if im 17? it doesnt mean i havnt grown! i dont have big boobs but i have a nice 'juicy' butt too i have hips, thighs and im proud that i do so your saying im not a woman yet? god sake theres 12 year olds out there who have bigger tits than 30 yr olds. every1 grows differently and at different stages in life so who are you to say "your not a woman yet" well im glad im young anyway! its not a bad thing now is it
Beauty Mark
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No, of course not. No one is arguing that. I'm just analyzing why people's actions are what they are. Read what people wrote. No one said, "It's okay to make fun of someone different than you."
It's a fact that people make fun of those who are different than they are. It's like making fun of the first girl who gets breasts or is a foot taller than the boys. No one knows who "started" the idea of making fun of those different than they are. I'm not saying it's acceptable that my friend's family is assy about her being darker than a "normal" Chinese person.
I used the example of my friend, because people often note being made of for their paleness. I'm more trying note that you really can't please everyone, because everyone has different values in beauty. My friend's family would probably love it if she were goth pale. Some cultures think being thin is great, while being overweight is the best. Eva Longoria would probably have the ideal body for 1920s flapper style clothes.
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You're biologically a woman because you have a vagina, best of my knowledge. Everyone has hips and thighs and ass; it just depends on other factors of how curved you're going to be.
Having curves or a vagina does not make a woman in character, however.
| Originally Posted by lafemmenoir
Does that make it right? That seems a bit juvenile as does "He/she started it." I am glad I am more fact based than to take some statements here as law. |
No, of course not. No one is arguing that. I'm just analyzing why people's actions are what they are. Read what people wrote. No one said, "It's okay to make fun of someone different than you."
It's a fact that people make fun of those who are different than they are. It's like making fun of the first girl who gets breasts or is a foot taller than the boys. No one knows who "started" the idea of making fun of those different than they are. I'm not saying it's acceptable that my friend's family is assy about her being darker than a "normal" Chinese person.
I used the example of my friend, because people often note being made of for their paleness. I'm more trying note that you really can't please everyone, because everyone has different values in beauty. My friend's family would probably love it if she were goth pale. Some cultures think being thin is great, while being overweight is the best. Eva Longoria would probably have the ideal body for 1920s flapper style clothes.
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| i dont have big boobs but i have a nice 'juicy' butt too i have hips, thighs and im proud that i do so your saying im not a woman yet? |
You're biologically a woman because you have a vagina, best of my knowledge. Everyone has hips and thighs and ass; it just depends on other factors of how curved you're going to be.
Having curves or a vagina does not make a woman in character, however.
xolovinyoo
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i'm a size 0 and i have curves :] im glad im a size 0 though, because im very small so ive got a really big butt and nice boobs! HAHA so yeah true, you dont gotta be an anorexic to be a size 0.
tsukiyomi
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Very true. Some people are naturally that small but it is very rare. Most women who are a size zero starve themselves to be that thin because of the media and this ridiculous celebrity obsession. In my humble opinion.
| Originally Posted by xolovinyoo
you don't have to be an anorexic to be a size 0. |
Very true. Some people are naturally that small but it is very rare. Most women who are a size zero starve themselves to be that thin because of the media and this ridiculous celebrity obsession. In my humble opinion.
Beauty Mark
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Well, there's also vanity sizing. I received an order from Old Navy yesterday and it turns out there XS is too big for me! I haven't lost weight recently, either, and I compared it to other clothes I have that are XS from there.
ratmist
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God, there's a store that has some crazy sizing. I just bought a lovely wool skirt there in a size 8, which fit perfectly, and then two pairs of their mid-rise corduroy trousers in size 12, which also fit perfectly. The only explanation I can come up with is that the skirt sits directly on my waist, and the mid-rise actually sits on my hips.
Oh, and a mini-rant: I hate that I can't find shirts that really fit. I have a 34D chest, but apparently a size 8 waist. If I get a size large shirt/blouse/top/whatever, it fits appropriately around my chest, but billows around my waist and back. If I go smaller, my breasts don't fit properly. It's really annoying! (end rant!)
| Originally Posted by Beauty Mark
Well, there's also vanity sizing. I received an order from Old Navy yesterday and it turns out there XS is too big for me! I haven't lost weight recently, either, and I compared it to other clothes I have that are XS from there. |
God, there's a store that has some crazy sizing. I just bought a lovely wool skirt there in a size 8, which fit perfectly, and then two pairs of their mid-rise corduroy trousers in size 12, which also fit perfectly. The only explanation I can come up with is that the skirt sits directly on my waist, and the mid-rise actually sits on my hips.
Oh, and a mini-rant: I hate that I can't find shirts that really fit. I have a 34D chest, but apparently a size 8 waist. If I get a size large shirt/blouse/top/whatever, it fits appropriately around my chest, but billows around my waist and back. If I go smaller, my breasts don't fit properly. It's really annoying! (end rant!)
MxAxC-_ATTACK
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try buying pants when you have a huge ass and a small waist , thats no fun either! If they fit around the bum, theres a huge gap at the waist, and they fall down constantly, if they fit the waist the rear is waayy to small and snug you cant even sit down properly without losing circulation to your legs and showing massive crack.
xsnowwhite
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ugh thats what happens to me. Seriously though i have to buy 2 sizes bigger just for jeans to fit my freaking thighs/butt!! Sucks!
| Originally Posted by MxAxC-_ATTACK
try buying pants when you have a huge ass and a small waist , thats no fun either! If they fit around the bum, theres a huge gap at the waist, and they fall down constantly, if they fit the waist the rear is waayy to small and snug you cant even sit down properly without losing circulation to your legs and showing massive crack. |
ugh thats what happens to me. Seriously though i have to buy 2 sizes bigger just for jeans to fit my freaking thighs/butt!! Sucks!
j_absinthe
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My thoughts exactly. That photo of Naomi Watts is a prime example.
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I hate that attitude in working MUA's nowadays. Luckily, there are still some of us who believe in doing the best work possible so that there's as little of the retouching done as possible.
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I agree. If they didn't want freckles, again, they should've used a thicker application of the foundation.
I initially saw this site when it was posted on Dlisted, and I've seen other photographers and retouchers who've done the same. I'm both a retoucher AND a MUA, so it really pisses me off when lazy ass MUA's do a half ass job and expect it all to be done in post. It's one thing to rectify flaws and even out textures and lighting and whatnot, but retouching can be taxing, and with the money I assume these supposed artists are getting paid, they should be doing a bang up job.
I also am annoyed with overly airbrushed pictures, but that's not so much the fault of the retoucher as it is the client.
| Originally Posted by MAC_Pixie04
Well, the photographers of the before shots SUCK. The makeup artists suck a little bit too. Maybe if they did a better job initially, pictures wouldn't need so much retouching. |
My thoughts exactly. That photo of Naomi Watts is a prime example.
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| Originally Posted by Beauty Mark
I think the MUA might not put so much effort into it, because s/he knows there'll be digital editing. |
I hate that attitude in working MUA's nowadays. Luckily, there are still some of us who believe in doing the best work possible so that there's as little of the retouching done as possible.
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| Originally Posted by kimmy
i wish they didn't take the freckles off that last girl...she's absolutely beautiful with those freckles. |
I agree. If they didn't want freckles, again, they should've used a thicker application of the foundation.
I initially saw this site when it was posted on Dlisted, and I've seen other photographers and retouchers who've done the same. I'm both a retoucher AND a MUA, so it really pisses me off when lazy ass MUA's do a half ass job and expect it all to be done in post. It's one thing to rectify flaws and even out textures and lighting and whatnot, but retouching can be taxing, and with the money I assume these supposed artists are getting paid, they should be doing a bang up job.
I also am annoyed with overly airbrushed pictures, but that's not so much the fault of the retoucher as it is the client.
slowhoney
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Every single person there looks better without the retouching. I agree that the images needed some brightening and opacity/contrast adjustments, but I think the retouching is so overkill and so unnecessary. I think airbrushed images are pretty disgusting and I just do not see the reason for this type of falseness and 'covering up' in society. We all have our flaws; no one is going to go insane because a magazine model has some freckles. Why are these things airbrushed out? It's so ridiculous. And like, what is with that one of Julia Stiles? LIke j_absinthe, it's as if they MUAs are doing a half-assed job--what didn't they just put more colourful make-up on her in the photo shoot itself? I am a firm believer that all of this beauty can be achieved with some make-up to enhance what is already there. Hell, a lot of people don't even need make-up at all (I personally do so boo for me).
Also, VANITY SIZING SUCKS. That is all I have to say on that topic. It is a disgusting practice and should be outlawed.
Also, VANITY SIZING SUCKS. That is all I have to say on that topic. It is a disgusting practice and should be outlawed.
righteothen
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I agree, there should be no such thing as vanity sizes. The clothing industry needs to standardize sizes, to make it easier for all women, regardless of size, to find clothing that fits. Who cares if you are only a 6 in one brand, but a 8 in another? Doesn't wearing something that fits, and looks great on you, far out-way the size that you could be telling people you wear?
