Pigment jars getting smaller; prices staying the same

hello_kitty

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I think I'm the only person in the world not losing sleep over this... not a huge pigment person myself, and last fall I went and splurged on all the pigments I wanted. Only thing I see annoying me is the containers not matching the rest, but oh well, nothing I'm going to throw a tizzy over. Many many MANY companies change the size of things all the time and keep the price the same... my mom is always talking about this happening with food and cleaning products... MAC isn't the first, nor will they be the last...
 

summerblue

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Originally Posted by hello_kitty
Many many MANY companies change the size of things all the time and keep the price the same

The only problem hello_kitty is that they reduced the product by 42% so that's the same as if they increased the 7.5 gram size price by 42% -- and that's astronomical!
 

capmorlovesmac

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Here food companies downsize their products about 10% or sometimes even 20% and keep the price too but MAC has reduced the amount about 3g which is 40% less of product.

And the price per gram with 3g less product even increases about almost 67%.

$19,50 for 7,5g = $2,6 per gramm
$19,50 for 4,5g = $4,33 per gramm

And $4,33 is almost 67% more than $2,6.
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LMD84

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Originally Posted by capmorlovesmac
Here food companies downsize their products about 10% or sometimes even 20% and keep the price too but MAC has reduced the amount about 3g which is 40% less of product.

And the price per gram with 3g less product even increases about almost 67%.

$19,50 for 7,5g = $2,6 per gramm
$19,50 for 4,5g = $4,33 per gramm

And $4,33 is almost 67% more than $2,6.
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it's insane i tell you!
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i am trying not to think about pigments for a good long while now. what's done is done i guess
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nadiya

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Originally Posted by capmorlovesmac
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Wow.
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This "you won't use it up anyhow"-thinking upsets me. Pigments are not eye shadows only. They are a multipurpose product for heavens sake! People mix it in their foundation, fix+ or moisturizer. They are meant to be used for various purposes like mix your own nail polish with pigments (and glitters) etc.

It was even just recently suggested in an article: to mix your own stuff and how cool it is to mix your own gold nail polish with the pro gold pigment. I am missing the link now but it was the same article I think that showed the first pictures of the cremeblend blushes.

Now with so much product less the pigments are no longer are more professional product they were meant to be in the past. Now - if you don't want to run out especially of LE shades - you have less options to use them.
This whole situation is really just another step from MAC leaving its pro-brand roots towards the average mall shopping customer that likes to pick up something that just sparkles kinda cute at the Counter-brand.

*end of sad rant*
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I couldn't agree with you more. The old MAC jars were intended as pro products value but a lot of regular customers didn't appreciate the size. I think the generous amount made tricked lots of people into thinking they were a waste of money when in fact they were a great bargain. I always thought it was strange that some people would complain that the old jars were a waste of money, but would happily spend the same amount on NARS and Stila eyeshadows which both contain less product. MAC must have heard the comments and realised that it was an excellent opportunity to save money.
 

gildedangel

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I just read Temptalia's new comparison, which I am much happier with. I am still not thrilled that one loses so much product; but I do feel a little better about it. I never knew that MAC overfilled their pigments. Despite technically only being a 20% loss if one looks at the weight it is supposed to be, since all pigment jars are overfilled, it is still going to feel like a 40% loss.
 

summerblue

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I posted on the separate thread I started that this was a 42% reduction in pigment size, however, my math was wrong, (& kudos to the poster, who corrected it -- can't locate the thread reply) who said that there's a $1.73 per gram cost increase which mean that if you were to purchase the old jar at the new increased per gram price, the 7.5 gram jar would cost 32.76 (rather than the previous $19.50) which means that it is a 60% price increase (as that previous poster corrected my math - thank you!). IMO, it shows MAC's disregard & disrespect for it's customers..

Keeping everything in perspective, last year my homeowner ins. went up a whopping 27% due to the economy & all the natural disasters the ins. co. had to cover (& I have no doubt to cover the cost of the top exec's bonuses). And even though this is to protect my shelter, it still was an outrageous increase. With MAC, were only talking mu consisting of talc, minerals & the like, so I do think their going for the jugular shows their utter audacity.

Anyway, enough said. Unfortunately, the price change is already history no matter how much is stinks. Now, on an individual basis, we have to decide whether we will continue to buy, buy less or not buy at all. Unfortunately, that's it in a nutshell.
 

LMD84

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Originally Posted by summerblue
I posted on the separate thread I started that this was a 42% reduction in pigment size, however, my math was wrong, (& kudos to the poster, who corrected it -- can't locate the thread reply) who said that there's a $1.73 per gram cost increase which mean that if you were to purchase the old jar at the new increased per gram price, the 7.5 gram jar would cost 32.76 (rather than the previous $19.50) which means that it is a 60% price increase (as that previous poster corrected my math - thank you!). IMO, it shows MAC's disregard & disrespect for it's customers..

Keeping everything in perspective, last year my homeowner ins. went up a whopping 27% due to the economy & all the natural disasters the ins. co. had to cover (& I have no doubt to cover the cost of the top exec's bonuses). And even though this is to protect my shelter, it still was an outrageous increase. With MAC, were only talking mu consisting of talc, minerals & the like, so I do think their going for the jugular shows their utter audactity.

Anyway, enough said. Unfortunately, the price change is already history no matter how much is stinks. Now, on an individual basis, we have to decide whether we will continue to buy, buy less or not buy at all. Unfortunately, that's it in a nutshell.


very true. i shall not be buying pigments now unless they are in a cco or from the usa where i can get them much cheaper. and even then i shall be thinking twice about buying them. as you say it's all personal choice
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summerblue

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You know, LMD, if pigments are really important to someone & they don't want to pay these ridiculously inflated prices, you can always go to a website like coastalscents & buy their pigment book (downloaded pdf form, I believe) & learn how to use micas & oxides to make your own if so inclined. Coastalscents sells the individual ingredient additives. They have 10 additives in a sample pack which I recently purchased, but haven't had time to play with yet. And if you make your own, the color creations are unlimited as there are so many mica & oxides colors that can be mixed in endless combinations. Besides coastalscents, check out tkbtrading. Micas are so cheap & you get a ton of product.
 

Jackie O

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I'm SO pissed that I didn't get my staff card until after this change took effect. I was planning on stocking up on them while they were still cheap!

I love MAC but really, WTF!! lol oh well, they payin my bills so I can't complain to loudly
 

User49

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One of the reasons they changed the jars is because customers who bought the old pigments were finding that the product was going out of date before they could use all of it up.
 

summerblue

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Originally Posted by glitternmyveins
One of the reasons they changed the jars is because customers who bought the old pigments were finding that the product was going out of date before they could use all of it up.

I'm sorry, glitter, I'm not buying it. I have 25 containers of the original Stagelight pigments that are, literally, 30 years old. If you take out a small quantity from the original jar so as not to cross-contaminate, the pigments remain in pristine conditon. Same thing with e/s & blush -- if you periodically give it a spritz with isopropyl alcohol you maintain the integrity & longevity.

If MAC's motivation was truly shelf-life, they would have reduced the jar size 42% & have reduced the price, say 27 - 32%, which would have given them a 10 - 15% increase in price, thereby, still increasing their profit margin w/o going for the jugular. Instead, they reduced the jar size 42% & increased the price by an 60%. IMO, anything over 20% is outrageous.
 

LMD84

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just got an email responce from mac -


At M.A.C, we are committed to providing our customers with the best in products and services. As part of that ongoing commitment to excellence, we constantly investigate new packaging and other forms of delivery for our product. We regret that the size, design and pricing of our Pigments is not to your satisfaction; please be certain that your comments will be forwarded to our Product Development executives so that they may be taken into consideration during future planning.

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gildedangel

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Originally Posted by LMD84
just got an email responce from mac -


At M.A.C, we are committed to providing our customers with the best in products and services. As part of that ongoing commitment to excellence, we constantly investigate new packaging and other forms of delivery for our product. We regret that the size, design and pricing of our Pigments is not to your satisfaction; please be certain that your comments will be forwarded to our Product Development executives so that they may be taken into consideration during future planning.

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Well I guess that confirms that they will never change it back, no matter how many unsatisfied customers there are. They don't "regret" squat!
 

purrtykitty

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It's a canned response and nothing more. I wouldn't even begin to guess what they're going to do about it.

ETA: I love the stab at Temptalia in that blog post!
 
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