Religion/Strict Parenting and Make Up?

[nunu]

I started wearing eye kohl and lip glosses when i was in 7th grade, my mom never said anything about it to me. I have been brought up in the middle east. It is perfectly acceptable for women to wear make up and any that wear burks wear make up underneath it. The beauty shops didn't open recently, thay have always been there. In Islam a woman is supposed to wear make up and make herself look beautiful for her husband only. In old history the kohl was the most worn make up in arabian countries. Middle eastern culture is totally open to make up. These are my thoughts on this.

 

[dmenchi]

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Originally Posted by Raerae teen pregnancy rates are actually the lowest they have been in years. Teens aren't getting pregnant more now than they were 50 years ago, we just talk about it more.

thanks for the update! but it's obviously still not enough said: condoms DO prevent pregency!! LOL

 

[Raerae]

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Originally Posted by dmenchi thanks for the update! but it's obviously still not enough said: condoms DO prevent pregency!! LOL

And what exactly does that and G-Strings, have to do with MU and Religion/Strict Parenting?

 

[flowerhead]

Well I've heard Mormons and strict religious groups don't allow makeup because they think it's self-indulgent and that vanity is a sin....vanity is a basic human instinct though, everyone wants to look nice so that's a load of bullshit.

 

[ratmist]

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Originally Posted by flowerhead Well I've heard Mormons and strict religious groups don't allow makeup because they think it's self-indulgent and that vanity is a sin....vanity is a basic human instinct though, everyone wants to look nice so that's a load of bullshit.

I've known very prettily made-up Mormons and other "strict" religious females who do wear makeup, but usually after or around the age of 16. It almost goes without saying that it's a strict female-only thing. The LDS Mormons are totally fine with makeup. The fringe Mormon groups probably wouldn't be, considering the prairie-style outfits the women wear.

As for vanity being a sin, there are a lot of passages in the Bible (and in the Quoran for that matter) about the adornment of the flesh being a worldly distraction. Mostly the texts refer to gold and silver, and as a result, some of the strict Christian groups (Mennonites, for example), are very explicit about not allowing any adornment at all. Even the clothes are very plain and have to adhere to strict dress patterns. In some groups (Amish for example), the type, weight, colour and weave of fabric becomes the playground for expressing individualism - and also for challenging the rules about adornment. A friend of mine has Amish family and she told me some hilarious stories of Amish women sitting around talking about the frumpy girl next door.

Oh, and as for makeup, I've heard some talk that so long as it's 'natural' (i.e., berry stains, whether intentional or because of eating a handful of berries, etc), it isn't necessarily banned, but it isn't encouraged either.

 

[Shimmer]

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Originally Posted by flowerhead Well I've heard Mormons and strict religious groups don't allow makeup because they think it's self-indulgent and that vanity is a sin....vanity is a basic human instinct though, everyone wants to look nice so that's a load of bullshit.

"normal" LDS groups allow the girls to progress and wear makeup and look nicely.
"Fundamental" groups don't.

 

[Hawkeye]

I was speaking to a friend who was throwing a fit about makeup because in Leviticus (The Bible) it says a woman should not wear makeup. A lot of religions and strict people have followed this not realizing that what was being referred to is that women back then would wear eye makeup and when they closed their eyes it would say: PROSTITUTE. So it was a form of advertising themselves. Learn new stuff everyday.

 

[jenii]

I wasn't allowed to wear REAL makeup until I was about 13. This wasn't a religious thing with my mother, it was more of a "honestly, what do you need with that stuff at your age, anyway?"

At 13 I got to wear lipstick (Twig and Chili!), and once I was in high school I started with all the eyeliner and stuff.

Before then, my mom would get me that Tinkerbell makeup. I loved the nail polish that peeled off, because it gave me something to do when I was bored. XD

 

[x-ivy]

well there really isn't any rule where i live now, but...

a few years ago when i was with my dad andi hadn't started wearing make-up yet (at all!) just nail polish, we went to one of his relatives' house and she saw i was wearing nail polish a FLIPPED OUT

i would never consider nail polish make up, but i guess she did

she said you weren't supposed to wear "that stuff" until you're 18...

WOW!! lol

 

[SingFrAbsoltion]

My mom was really weird about makeup. I still don't understand why. She never allowed me to look nice. I wasn't allowed to use hair products, or do anything to my hair. And let me tell you my hair naturally is gross. It's frizzy and the color never suited me. She'd never let me use any makeup either, or let me buy nice clothes. I swear it was like she was trying to make me ugly on purpose. In 8th grade when I told her it was picture day and asked her to do my hair, she "tried" and I ended up having a frizzy bush on my head. Needless to say, I hope no one ever sees that picture.

Now, my mom is not a sheltered person. She works on television so having her own MU artist probably taught her quite a lot. I'll never understand why the hell she used to be like that. But now that I have a job and buy makeup all I want she asks me to do it for her. Uhh..no.

 

[purrtykitty]

yeah, i fondly recall playing with my mom's makeup when i was little. but otherwise, my mom wouldn't allow me to wear makeup until i was 12...and when i turned 12, she let me get a couple of lipglosses and wet 'n' wild eyeliners. i was allowed to wear nail polish, but only light pinks/very pale glittery colors until i hit that magic age of 12. i had lotsa fun with makeup for about a year...then i lost interest, except for the nail polish. occasionally wore makeup in high school, but i mostly just rolled out of bed. i would put a little makeup on before i went to work after school, though (i was a bank teller). once i graduated high school, though it was like a light clicked on and i haven't looked back since.

sometimes i wish i'd gotten into makeup sooner - like in high school. i could have had so much more fun with colors then (since i'm heading into a law career, i'll hafta keep it toned down in the office, but watch out weekends!). my mom wasn't reallys strict, except for the age-12 thing. she's not really into makeup - or shoes, clothing, or purses for that matter. if i didn't look so much like my grandmother when she was young, i'd think i was switched at birth (and even then i sometimes still think i am)!

 

[Glassdoll]

My parents are fairly strict, but with makeup they were always cool about it. I used to have make up on when i was way too young to appreciate it. i used to do alot of performances when i was young, so my mum would do my makeup for me and all. So i guess i was never too curious about makeup and only really got into buying my own makeup when i was 16.

 

[heeltohaunch]

middle eastern women are pretty dedicated to cosmetics and beauty in general. I had my ears pierced as a baby, most girls here do, and women congregate to salons to get their hair done and get threaded and waxed pretty often. I wasnt allowed to wear makeup until I was about 18, before that maybe just some eyeliner and gloss.

most other muslim women do spend alot of time and money on cosmetics. The MAC store in my city is usually full of women buying makeup, the majority of ladies here go out in full makeup and mu artists are in huge demand especially in eid, or weddings (I'm sure many of you have seen pictures of Arabic makeup on youtube and other makeup communities). And never try to get between an Arabic girl and her beloved khol!

But of course there are people who are more conservative in their tastes, it really does vary from person to person and between countries- even in the Muslim world.

 

[Kuuipo]

I am Russian Orthodox, religon wise. We are allowed to wear makeup, but no lipstick to church because it can get on the priest's hand, people's faces (both during greetings-it's a friendly faith) and on the communion chalice. People are expected to look their best at church, and women can not wear pants to church or show cleavage or too much skin. We don't think of it as repression, its respect and also not distracting others from worship.

 

[captodometer]

The mom in the Duggar family (Michele?) wears makeup. They are Christian fundamentalists of some sort; not sure what the actual denomination is.

This family has at least 16 children; they may be up to 17 or 18. They all seem to be wearing hand-me downs, most of which appear to be home sewn.
The girls always wear skirts or dresses. It just seems odd to me that Mom would be wearing makeup in these circumstances. She's also got big teased and hairsprayed bangs. It's almost like seeing old order Amish women in lipstick: it just doesn't quite seem to fit

No problems with LDS wearing makeup. About 10% of the town I grew up in was LDS, and this was in the deep South to boot. Everybody wore makeup, and a lot of the LDS ladies had the most well-done makeup in town. But I could definitely see some of the western, polygamist fringe groups not approving of makeup at all.

 

[IDontKnowMomo]

My parents never set any rules. We don't have a set religion in my house. I've grew up agnostic and am now atheist, my parents were raised catholic, but they don't attend church anymore. Idk why, they just figured if I had an interest, I would go for it, and they didn't mind it. I didn't pick any up until eighth grade though.
I've worn makeup to school everyday since, haha.

 

[nelyanaphonexia]

This is a really interesting subject for me because I've studied the changed in generations regarding sexuality and beauty trends.

From my personal experience, I know that my mother grew up in a Pentecostal household and makeup and piercings and other things like, short skirts and pants were forbidden at all times. She wasn't allowed to wear jewelry or makeup until she moved out at 18.

As a little girl, I always remember my mom wearing lots of makeup, lots of pink lipstick and blue and green eyeshadow. Her sister sold Mary Kay for the longest time, so she had tons of that and always let me play with it.

As a very little girl I started dancing ballet, and for the recitals we had to wear TONS and TONS of makeup. Like stage makeup, but more natural - no blues or greens - but it HAD to show up from on stage to the back of the audience.

So, I have pictures of me when I was 4 and 5 with thick makeup on, crazy blush and bright pink lipstick.

 

[mizuki~]

My mom wasn't strict about it, she just told me makeup was for whores and clowns. She didn't exactly say no to it, she just always made me feel bad. She'd laugh and tell me I looked like a whore when I'm only wearing eyeliner. But now she's over it haha

 

[concertina]

My parents were pretty strict non-denominational christians and my grandparents were hard-line southern baptists.

When I was 13, I was allowed to wear foundation, blush and powder. Colored lipgloss at 14. And mascara, eyeliner, eye shadow and lipstick (and allowed to date) at 16. But *never* anything 'extreme' or non-nude/subtle colors.

I had my ears pierced at 3 years old so jewelry was never really an issue and once I became interested in nail polish (11 or 12?), I was allowed to wear natural shades.

 

[KikiB]

I grew up in a household where my mom was active in the church (a very liberal-leaning Lutheran church) and my dad was not in any church although he was baptized young. As far as makeup goes, my mum was originally fairly conservative about it. When I got into her old Elizabeth Arden stuff (she used to work the counters), she took away all my makeup for a month-but then after it came makeup crime after makeup crime. Blue Hello Kitty lipbalm, silvery-brown lipgloss, silver lipstick, gold lipstick, crappily-applied Wet & Wild eyeliner, bronzer AS foundation, dark purple lipstick...

Anywhoo, her original rule was that I could wear natural-looking eyeshadow in 7th grade, then mascara and colours the next year. Well, I was wearing all sorts of things but never highlighter as eyeshadow. Nowadays she thinks I go bright but she does understand that it is like my art. If she knew the money I spent on makeup, she would flip! I can say though that I still do attend church, and I do try and keep the makeup more toned down-respectful and professional-but I wear what I want.

And on the ear-piercing thing, when I was young my mum originally said absolutely not before I turned 13. I ended up getting them done when I was 12 because earlier that year I had dealt with a lot of dark emotional issues, and it was one of those things to make me feel better. I was actually one of the last girls in the area to get their ears pierced. Only one of my friends did not have them pierced when I did...many girls had at least two. My mom had 2 on one ear and 6 on the other.