Small rant: The Beauty Review Bandwagon

User27

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Originally Posted by TISH1124
^^ Sorry girl I didn't have time to read all that...I am busy watching all the BitchSlap reviews.... Maybe later
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j/k I did read it....
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YouTube - nikkie20six's Channel

All I've got to say is everyone is suspect because I admired this chick for a minute....but commercial much? Her youtube page says it alone but when I saw the cat claws come out on this, I lost a lot of respect a lot of places. She was someone that spoke her mind intelligently but now even the background says it all......WWW.BITCHSLAP-COSMETICS.COM and I couldn't stand by that. Screw their hype and I'm going to point out the two faced nature of youtube on this one....she was enemy number one for bringing up the guru attitude problem and then she jumped on a bandwagon like anyone else did. Disappointment she was....
 

NernersHuman

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Where you been Tish? Bitch Slap was May's Flavor of the Month, although I know it can be hard to get caught up on your viewing with all that free swag flying around.
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A couple weeks ago TiffanyD (who I do like very much, don't get me wrong) did this VERY enthusiastic review of Josie Maran products, like they were manna from heaven or something. I haven't seen her use them for anything since, its been pretty much all MAC.

I personally have one Josie Maran product, a lipstick that lasts maybe all of 30 seconds on the lips. For the price, a little more staying power would be appreciated. Argan oil, schmargan oil, I say.
 

LeeleeBell

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Originally Posted by Willa
Omg... the Bitch Slap website

Annoying, anyone?
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Oh ya...and just the name turned me off. Guess that makes me a prude or something...
 

Willa

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To talk about the original subject, what is more annoying...

Knowing some girls can get stuff for free?
or
Knowing that online reviews by people like you arent reliable anymore?
 

NernersHuman

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Originally Posted by Willa
To talk about the original subject, what is more annoying...

Knowing some girls can get stuff for free?
or
Knowing that online reviews by people like you arent reliable anymore?


Probably a bit of both.

I think what gets me is that I KNOW that so many of these gurus have gotten so swept up in the free swag mobile they give gushing reviews just to keep the free train chugging along. I'm not going to name names, I think most of us who watch with any regularity know who they are.

About Bitch Slap...the funniest thing about that to me is that it's no secret that those products come from a wholesaler called Ladyburd and I've seen the same products in numerous other lines, but so many gurus talk like the Bitch Slap owner is some kind of revolutionary.
 

LeeleeBell

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Originally Posted by Willa
To talk about the original subject, what is more annoying...

Knowing some girls can get stuff for free?
or
Knowing that online reviews by people like you arent reliable anymore?



Actually the OP was about the redundancy of hype. I don't care if people get
free stuff...who wouldn't be ok with that lol. That doesn't bother me in the slightest. It's just, everyone reviews the same freebies they get...it becomes overhyped because people just repeat the same reviews they have already seen done 10 times before. THAT's what bothers me...the
redundancy of hype.
 

Face2Mac

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Knowing that the online reviews aren't reliable b/c everyone doesn't/dpn't? have ethics and some will say anything to keep the companies coming.
 

Willa

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Originally Posted by LeeleeBell
Actually the OP was about the redundancy of hype. I don't care if people get
free stuff...who wouldn't be ok with that lol. That doesn't bother me in the slightest. It's just, everyone reviews the same freebies they get...it becomes overhyped because people just repeat the same reviews they have already seen done 10 times before. THAT's what bothers me...the
redundancy of hype.


Sorry Leelee, I was just trying to make the discussion go back to the original subject. I'm not saying what I wrote was 100 % what you meant...

It was sort of a question, to poll people
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User27

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Willa
To talk about the original subject, what is more annoying...

Knowing some girls can get stuff for free?
or
Knowing that online reviews by people like you arent reliable anymore?


I don't mind people getting free things but I do mind if I purchase something based off of a biased review. Get all the free items you want, as I probably would, but please don't tell me how wonderful they are when they really aren't. That person's opinion matters to the thousands of people who watch and respect them and at one point, I was one of them. I remember seeing d******* gush over the palettes I ended up buying as well as quite a few others and then it came without a listing of ingredients. Do you but don't screw me if it's something you've gotten handed for free as I still matter to me. I can dismiss easily and didn't think twice about it but there are impressionable young girls who hold what you say as truth and rely on you to be honest with them and then scramble to buy what you've recommended to them so they can be like/look like you. Sure gurus didn't sign up to be babysitters but there are girls watching hours of videos trying to emulate them and want everything they have and what they used to have that look. When viewers get the crap items, they're let down by the people they had looked up to and it leaves them feeling cheated and lied to.

Bitch Slap.....for the woman who has been yanked up by Katt Williams and gotten the Bitch Slap she deserved. Copyright pending 7/31/09.
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paperfishies

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As a makeup artist I can honestly say that I have received free products that I've absolutely positively HATED...It being free doesn't make me like it and it doesn't persuade me to like it.
The free stuff I've been given that I don't like, I either give away or give it to my 6 year old daughter to play with.

I don't do youtube videos but I can totally understand why a Youtuber would review only products they like...why waste time on saying, "oh I hated this it sucked" Some of the YTers like Panacea81 ( I think I spelled that right) have a massive following...Could you imagine what would happen if she totally ripped on a product she received from a small company? It could potentially cause real harm to that very small company's financial system.

I can totally understand why "gurus" would review the same product. Each guru has their own unique audience and followers. People value opinions of different people. There are a few YTers who I wouldn't take skincare/makeup/product advice from if my life depended on it...There are others who I feel hit the nail on the head most of the time. If a guru has tried a product and feels it's a great product why wouldn't they do a review on it? Sigma brushes for example...Being a makeup artist brushes are probably the 2nd most important thing to me...I was pretty damn skeptical about these brushes until I saw a review from a guru I really like. I am a MAC brush girl all the way...i bit the bullet and ordered a few sets of these brushes after reading/watching a few reviews and I have to say, I love these damn brushes. I saw a few people on other boards say that a certain YTer who promoted sigma hardcore, didn't use the brushes very often in her tutorials,so they found it hard to believe the brushes were good...To me this wasn't a very valid point. As much as I love the sigma brushes, I almost always reach for a MAC brush first. It's habit and I have so damn many MAC brushes there are almost always a full clean set laying around and just because a product is really good doesn't mean someone will use it all the time...While I love sigma, MAC will probably always be my first choice. Same can go for eye shadows, foundations, lipsticks, etc. I think you have to take all opinions and things like that for what they are worth and just jump in there and try the products for yourself. Everyone has different tastes and no one is forcing anyone to buy anything.

I just don't understand why people find the redundancy of reviews obnoxious. Like I said earlier, each guru has their own audience...So it only makes sense for each guru to review the same products as other gurus, especially if they really like the product and want their audience to know. Hell if you even read in the comments for some videos there are people asking that specific guru to do reviews on certain products that have been reviewed by other YTers already.

Food for thought...why would a popular YTer give a good review to an item they honestly thought was crap? Wouldn't that be risking a lot for them as far as the Youtube universe goes? They are potentially risking losing loyal fans and subscribers and people would stop taking them seriously. So, in my opinion I don't think it's very likely for the bigger, well known YTers to give false and shady reviews for products they truly know are crap, it just doesn't make logical sense. They may get more free stuff for while but that will eventually die off because their audience will shrink and no one will be offering someone with next to no audience free products to review/promote.
 

LeeleeBell

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Originally Posted by paperfishies
I just don't understand why people find the redundancy of reviews obnoxious. Like I said earlier, each guru has their own audience...So it only makes sense for each guru to review the same products as other gurus, especially if they really like the product and want their audience to know. Hell if you even read in the comments for some videos there are people asking that specific guru to do reviews on certain products that have been reviewed by other YTers already.



IMO there are more than 4 products to review out there at any given time. Or are only the freebies worth reviewing? Choosing to review the same product as others is one thing, choosing to say exactly the same thing that has been said a dozen times before (and by gurus who reach the same people and more)...I don't see what the point is. Someone needs to enlighten me. It feels like a load of bs after a while. Hype for hype's sake (and probably to entice companies to send more freebies). I don't like watching infomercials...but yes I have learned a lesson and will stick to watching 3 or 4 of my favorite "gurus" and take it all with a grain of salt.
 

LeeleeBell

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Originally Posted by Willa
Sorry Leelee, I was just trying to make the discussion go back to the original subject. I'm not saying what I wrote was 100 % what you meant...

It was sort of a question, to poll people
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It's no worries
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....just wanted to clarify that I have no issue with freebies or with people who review freebies...It's when people review something that's already been reviewed a half dozen times that really gets on my nerves.

I did not mean to question whether people are reliable or not either in the OP...Take for example someone who honestly likes a product they review. Even if they actually "mean it"/ like a product...they don't HAVE to review it if it's already been done a half dozen times. They choose to. And that's what is annoying to me, lol...THAT is what makes me question reliability over time...that some are so repeatedly willing to jump into the hype game.
 

NernersHuman

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Originally Posted by paperfishies
Food for thought...why would a popular YTer give a good review to an item they honestly thought was crap? Wouldn't that be risking a lot for them as far as the Youtube universe goes? They are potentially risking losing loyal fans and subscribers and people would stop taking them seriously. So, in my opinion I don't think it's very likely for the bigger, well known YTers to give false and shady reviews for products they truly know are crap, it just doesn't make logical sense. They may get more free stuff for while but that will eventually die off because their audience will shrink and no one will be offering someone with next to no audience free products to review/promote.


I used to think that too...but honestly I've come to believe that many people will believe a lot of these gurus even if they said curdled milk was the next great evolution in beauty. Some folks just got the charisma, I guess.
 

TISH1124

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^ I agree...some people have amazing persuasion...They can sell milk to a cow...I guess that is a good talent to have in certain businesses...Not so good if you happen to be a not so smart cow I reck'on
 
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