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little teaser

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Originally Posted by Beauty Mark
I know it sells, but I don't think most people are listening to hip hop for the lyrics any more. They're listening to it for the beat. If there's other stuff out there with non-misogynistic lyrics and equally good beats, they should get equal airplay/attention.

Unless, of course, it's a grander marketing scheme (geez, this sounds like conspiracy.) Hip hop nowadays is selling a lifestyle of expensive jewelry, cars, clothes, liquor, and so on.


there is other music out there with equally good beats even better it's called break beats it has very little lyrics ..it has alot of attention in the rave community..
 

Raerae

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Originally Posted by Beauty Mark
Playing Devil's Advocate, are words in music really just that- words?

Just because a word is overexposed, doesn't make it ok. Take swear words, some people use them in their normal vocabulary. While they may have lost a lot of meaning (especially to the person saying them), they are still obscene.

Do you really want to be refered to as a, "bitch, trick, whore, ho, etc." And have people not care anymore because the word is overexposed? Thats the point where I think were getting too now. It's making women and men oblivious to the real meanings of these words. Men use them w/out thinking, and women dont take offense because they hear it so much. Thats a HUGE step back in women's rights. And it's happening right under our noses, and were not even paying attention.

You hear women justifying the lyrics already, "Well he's not talking about me." The thing is though, they are talking about you. The men who make these songs, dont value women as a woman. All they see us as, is someone their gonna fuck. You think the young men who look up to these men, are going to believe differently?

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If hip hop expressed positive messages (respect everyone, don't kill people, and so on), would it affect people to behave positively? Or, to steal a little from the movie High Fidelity, do we listen to the music because of our moods/personality or are we the way we are because of the music?

I think the music is going a lon way to de-sensitize the general population. And thats a bad thing.

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I'm also not sure if the visual impact is hitting home more than the lyrical. Given how popular music videos are, I wonder if that's more important than what's being said.

The visual part is just de-sensitizing women to that style of dress. We already had a discussion about the sexualization of children.

In the end it just makes more women not care if they dress more revealing and get treated like bitches. Exactly what men who buy into these cultures want. Women as sex objects, and nothing more.
 

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