So how successful was FAFI compared to Barbie Loves MAC???
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GlamYOURUs
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I honestly don't think you can compare the two. Like someone said earlier, Barbie is an icon and Fafi. no one has really heard of her and this is like her break to get noticed. Also, its all about personal preference. Not everyone will have the same taste and the same thing can be said with makeup.
I personally like both for different reasons. I preferred the paint pots, and blushes in Fafi and eye shadows and lipsticks and lipglasses in Barbie. One thing I will admit though, I don't like how they decided to sticker their characters on these Fafi products. Its pretty cheap. I bought cult face l/g 2 days ago, and you can easily see the bumps because the sticker wasn't put on nicely and its beginning to come off. That is my only complaint with this new collection - bad manufacturing.
I personally like both for different reasons. I preferred the paint pots, and blushes in Fafi and eye shadows and lipsticks and lipglasses in Barbie. One thing I will admit though, I don't like how they decided to sticker their characters on these Fafi products. Its pretty cheap. I bought cult face l/g 2 days ago, and you can easily see the bumps because the sticker wasn't put on nicely and its beginning to come off. That is my only complaint with this new collection - bad manufacturing.
amoona
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I like Fafi but LOVE Barbie. The one thing that I'm crazy about with Fafi is the paint pots. I was never a paint pot fan until Quite Natural came out with the N collection so I'm loving the new colors.
However at my counter we sold out of most of the collection before it even came out. We presold it and the day it came out we were already sold out of Cult Fave l/g, Fun n Sexy l/s, both pallets, all the iridescent powders, the big make-up bags, both blushes - it was crazy. Our event isn't even until next week and we are not going to have a damn thing by then.
However at my counter we sold out of most of the collection before it even came out. We presold it and the day it came out we were already sold out of Cult Fave l/g, Fun n Sexy l/s, both pallets, all the iridescent powders, the big make-up bags, both blushes - it was crazy. Our event isn't even until next week and we are not going to have a damn thing by then.
cherryice
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I love the Fafi design and prefer it to the Barbie line, but...the packaging on the lipsticks really disappointed me. My Barbie decals haven't budged, but this Fafi lipstick I bought is one use away from having the sticker torn off.
Also, the colors are disappointing. I bought the Sassed Up powder hoping it'd be just as gorgeous as the other beauty powders that have come out, but it reminded me of the Stylistics Sheerspark powders - all glitter and no pigment.
While I'm loving the doll and shirt I bought, the makeup just isn't as thrilling as the products from the Barbie line.
Also, the colors are disappointing. I bought the Sassed Up powder hoping it'd be just as gorgeous as the other beauty powders that have come out, but it reminded me of the Stylistics Sheerspark powders - all glitter and no pigment.
While I'm loving the doll and shirt I bought, the makeup just isn't as thrilling as the products from the Barbie line.
alien21xx
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I missed Barbie entirely because I was on a make-up budget that time... But I'm still on a make-up budget now but I still got lots of Fafi... For me, I think Barbie still did better, but the products are entirely different, so there isn't really anything to compare. I think MAC did really well with the marketing for Fafi though. It's gone from obscure artsy reference to a real phenomenon here in Singapore. People who weren't even into make-up were snapping up the Hipness blush and various lipglasses!
MAC_Whore
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I appreciate what your saying, but it really shouldn't matter that everyone knows Barbie and not too many knew Fafi. The Fafi theme and elements had potential to really score, but they missed the mark. It's a cute collection, but it had potential to be great.
I realize everyone has different tastes, but I think the majority of issues a lot of folks have, myself included, is the quality (packaging, formula, etc.) and not the colours.
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I really used to hate that at my counter. So frustrating. I feel your pain.
Originally Posted by GlamYOURUs
I honestly don't think you can compare the two. Like someone said earlier, Barbie is an icon and Fafi. no one has really heard of her and this is like her break to get noticed. Also, its all about personal preference. Not everyone will have the same taste and the same thing can be said with makeup. ..... |
I appreciate what your saying, but it really shouldn't matter that everyone knows Barbie and not too many knew Fafi. The Fafi theme and elements had potential to really score, but they missed the mark. It's a cute collection, but it had potential to be great.
I realize everyone has different tastes, but I think the majority of issues a lot of folks have, myself included, is the quality (packaging, formula, etc.) and not the colours.
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| Originally Posted by amoona
...However at my counter we sold out of most of the collection before it even came out. We presold it and the day it came out we were already sold out of Cult Fave l/g, Fun n Sexy l/s, both pallets, all the iridescent powders, the big make-up bags, both blushes - it was crazy. Our event isn't even until next week and we are not going to have a damn thing by then. |
I really used to hate that at my counter. So frustrating. I feel your pain.
pumpkincraze
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I don't agree that this collection will be Fafi big break, she is pretty well known artist in some circles.
Here is how i see these 2 collections:
Do i like Barbie? Hell yes! I have over 60 barbie dolls + a few Ken dolls + cars + house + various house furniture sets including architecture drawig tables etc.
Do i want to have makeup w/ Barbie head print? No. I'm not 10 anymore and my Barbie dolls and stuff are packed away until i have daughter that can play with them.
Why did i buy BLM collection? Simply b/c i love the makeup. I love bright pinks, anything green, shimmer and especially any kind of blush/highlighter.
Do i like Fafi? I'm indifferent. I knew about her and her art before this collection but i'm not big on grafitti and to be honest i find her a little too "scene".
Do i want to have makeup w/ Fafinettes on the package? Not really. I like my packing sleek and simple, then again it is fun to have some collectors stuff, like tiger print Raquel Welch BP compacts, pink metalic Diana Ross compacts etc.
Why did i buy Fafi for MAC collection? Simply b/c i love the makeup. I love bright pinks, shimmer and especially any kind of blush/highlighter.
BLM vs. FfM: There have been much better MAC collections than either of these. I didn't see anything to buy back ups for in either of these collection and i never understand why people went crazy of BLM stuff or are selling their Real Dolls for $40. Nothing terribly unique in either collection, bright pinks, light pinks, shimmers and glitters = typical MAC stuff.
This is just makeup no need to take this seriously. All this talk about tacky packaging and images being stickers: it is just a $14 l/s, it is not like you bought a $4000 Marc Jacobs bag and it is tacky or a $250 D&G t-shirt and the print on the front is a sticker.
Here is how i see these 2 collections:
Do i like Barbie? Hell yes! I have over 60 barbie dolls + a few Ken dolls + cars + house + various house furniture sets including architecture drawig tables etc.
Do i want to have makeup w/ Barbie head print? No. I'm not 10 anymore and my Barbie dolls and stuff are packed away until i have daughter that can play with them.
Why did i buy BLM collection? Simply b/c i love the makeup. I love bright pinks, anything green, shimmer and especially any kind of blush/highlighter.
Do i like Fafi? I'm indifferent. I knew about her and her art before this collection but i'm not big on grafitti and to be honest i find her a little too "scene".
Do i want to have makeup w/ Fafinettes on the package? Not really. I like my packing sleek and simple, then again it is fun to have some collectors stuff, like tiger print Raquel Welch BP compacts, pink metalic Diana Ross compacts etc.
Why did i buy Fafi for MAC collection? Simply b/c i love the makeup. I love bright pinks, shimmer and especially any kind of blush/highlighter.
BLM vs. FfM: There have been much better MAC collections than either of these. I didn't see anything to buy back ups for in either of these collection and i never understand why people went crazy of BLM stuff or are selling their Real Dolls for $40. Nothing terribly unique in either collection, bright pinks, light pinks, shimmers and glitters = typical MAC stuff.
This is just makeup no need to take this seriously. All this talk about tacky packaging and images being stickers: it is just a $14 l/s, it is not like you bought a $4000 Marc Jacobs bag and it is tacky or a $250 D&G t-shirt and the print on the front is a sticker.
Susanne
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Well, here I will second your opinion!
| Originally Posted by pumpkincraze
Why did i buy Fafi for MAC collection? Simply b/c i love the makeup. I love bright pinks, shimmer and especially any kind of blush/highlighter. This is just makeup no need to take this seriously. All this talk about tacky packaging and images being stickers: it is just a $14 l/s, it is not like you bought a $4000 Marc Jacobs bag and it is tacky or a $250 D&G t-shirt and the print on the front is a sticker. |
Well, here I will second your opinion!
MAC_Whore
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This is a first and foremost a makeup board, specifically MAC Chat. I can't think of a better place to talk about it.
It may be "just makeup", but it can still be done wrong or done right.
| Originally Posted by pumpkincraze
..This is just makeup no need to take this seriously. All this talk about tacky packaging and images being stickers: it is just a $14 l/s, it is not like you bought a $4000 Marc Jacobs bag and it is tacky or a $250 D&G t-shirt and the print on the front is a sticker. |
This is a first and foremost a makeup board, specifically MAC Chat. I can't think of a better place to talk about it.
It may be "just makeup", but it can still be done wrong or done right.
pumpkincraze
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Obviously this is a makeup site and i'm a part of it b/c i enjoy buying and using makeup as well as talking about it. I'm just saying now that it is discussed over and over how sucky that the prints on the products are not really prints but are stickers, let's move on. It is not something to think about too much. And if one for some reason doesn't like a collection or a product, then by all means s/he should save the money and spend it on something that s/he would enjoy more. There are makeup brands w/ more quality than MAC, like Chanel or GA, which i don't enjoy or love as much as i enjoy and love MAC b/c MAC is fun. Why don't we keep it that way instead of giving each other attitude for expressing their opinion.
| Originally Posted by MAC_Whore
This is a first and foremost a makeup board, specifically MAC Chat. I can't think of a better place to talk about it. It may be "just makeup", but it can still be done wrong or done right. |
Obviously this is a makeup site and i'm a part of it b/c i enjoy buying and using makeup as well as talking about it. I'm just saying now that it is discussed over and over how sucky that the prints on the products are not really prints but are stickers, let's move on. It is not something to think about too much. And if one for some reason doesn't like a collection or a product, then by all means s/he should save the money and spend it on something that s/he would enjoy more. There are makeup brands w/ more quality than MAC, like Chanel or GA, which i don't enjoy or love as much as i enjoy and love MAC b/c MAC is fun. Why don't we keep it that way instead of giving each other attitude for expressing their opinion.
MAC_Whore
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I don't think anyone is giving attitude over people expressing their opinion. This thread is quite civil.
If people want to keep talking about the stickers on the products, more power to them. That is the point of a discussion board. You may be done thinking about it, but others may not. Each person gets a chance to talk about what they want to.
| Originally Posted by pumpkincraze
Obviously this is a makeup site and i'm a part of it b/c i enjoy buying and using makeup as well as talking about it. I'm just saying now that it is discussed over and over how sucky that the prints on the products are not really prints but are stickers, let's move on. It is not something to think about too much. And if one for some reason doesn't like a collection or a product, then by all means s/he should save the money and spend it on something that s/he would enjoy more. There are makeup brands w/ more quality than MAC, like Chanel or GA, which i don't enjoy or love as much as i enjoy and love MAC b/c MAC is fun. Why don't we keep it that way instead of giving each other attitude for expressing their opinion. |
I don't think anyone is giving attitude over people expressing their opinion. This thread is quite civil.
If people want to keep talking about the stickers on the products, more power to them. That is the point of a discussion board. You may be done thinking about it, but others may not. Each person gets a chance to talk about what they want to.
pumpkincraze
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Maybe it is me but when you say "this is a makeup board we talk about makeup here" to me when i'm talking about makeup just not agreeing with the majority, it seems like attitude.
But whatever, as i said, no need to take anything about makeup seriously.
| Originally Posted by MAC_Whore
I don't think anyone is giving attitude over people expressing their opinion. This thread is quite civil. If people want to keep talking about the stickers on the products, more power to them. That is the point of a discussion board. You may be done thinking about it, but others may not. Each person gets a chance to talk about what they want to.
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Maybe it is me but when you say "this is a makeup board we talk about makeup here" to me when i'm talking about makeup just not agreeing with the majority, it seems like attitude.
But whatever, as i said, no need to take anything about makeup seriously.
SMMY
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Actually, since we are consumers, it is a valid discussion. I think everyone here has been civil and no one has their proverbial knickers in a knot over whether or not the Fafi collection is better or worse than the BLM collection. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and the right to express it here as long as it is not rude or flaming another individual. If someone doesn't like the collection, they should be free to discuss it here. If someone loves the collection, they should also be entitled to say why. I think some very interesting points have come up in discussion, such at the use of stickers, so that MAC can still sell the items after the licensing period has ended. I hadn't realized that was a possible reason for the semi-removable package decoration.
I've been through several years of MAC collections now and know that my opinion is just that, an opinion. The only actual marker of how successful either collection is will be in sales of said collections.
I was at my counter late Saturday and they still had quite a bit of Fafi inventory, with the exception of Hipness blush. Does that make the collection a failure? Of course not, it just isn't as popular at my counter. I'm also sure that some counters have sold out of a lot of Fafi items too. I do think when the dust settles that Barbie will have sold more, but for a lot of reasons that have nothing to do with my personal preference for that collection.
Probably the thing that appeals to me most about MAC, is that often when I think they have become predictable and released every known color and finish variant known to man, they surprise me. Barbie and Antiquitease were those types of collections for me. Fafi and Heatherettee will be those collections for someone else. MAC's strength lies in it's huge range of colors and products that keeps bringing some of us back to the Church of MAC, even when we have lost the faith and strayed to NARS, Chanel and other brands.
I've been through several years of MAC collections now and know that my opinion is just that, an opinion. The only actual marker of how successful either collection is will be in sales of said collections.
I was at my counter late Saturday and they still had quite a bit of Fafi inventory, with the exception of Hipness blush. Does that make the collection a failure? Of course not, it just isn't as popular at my counter. I'm also sure that some counters have sold out of a lot of Fafi items too. I do think when the dust settles that Barbie will have sold more, but for a lot of reasons that have nothing to do with my personal preference for that collection.
Probably the thing that appeals to me most about MAC, is that often when I think they have become predictable and released every known color and finish variant known to man, they surprise me. Barbie and Antiquitease were those types of collections for me. Fafi and Heatherettee will be those collections for someone else. MAC's strength lies in it's huge range of colors and products that keeps bringing some of us back to the Church of MAC, even when we have lost the faith and strayed to NARS, Chanel and other brands.
ms.marymac
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I have had a couple of customers ooh and aah over the colors on the palettes, and then frown when they saw the lid. They said that they would feel silly having something that to them looks very young. They were pleased to know that the stickers were there, so they could have the colors they liked without feeling like they just bought something at Claire's. (their words) Just another point of view. I guess the stickers will be a positive thing for some.
.VivaDiva.
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I completely agree with MW and Shimmer's take on the collection. I was also underwhelmed by the fafi collection. After having a long browse I ended up walking away with 2 paint pots and that was all. Lipsticks, glosses, powders; all way too glittery for my tastes... bleh!
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Werd! Don't even get me started on the e/s! The quality of the e/s is declining unfortunately
they have way less pigment and I agree are kinda dusty.
After I purchased my pp's I went over to sephora and played around with some MUFE e/s and omg the quality is waaaaaaaaaaaay better!
I too am getting over the MAC frenzy
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| Originally Posted by MAC_Whore
Shadows: With the exception of the one veluxe pearl, the others are listed as lustres, satins and velvets, but they all look/perform so similarly. They are kind of that dusty, flat formula that MAC seems to continually put out lately. Frankly, it's a disappointing trend of theirs. It seems cheaper. I love the marketing they do. I think the parties and promo products are fun, but they incur an expense. MAC has to make up that money somewhere. I feel like it is starting to show in their shadows. |
Werd! Don't even get me started on the e/s! The quality of the e/s is declining unfortunately
After I purchased my pp's I went over to sephora and played around with some MUFE e/s and omg the quality is waaaaaaaaaaaay better!
I too am getting over the MAC frenzy
GlamYOURUs
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Thanks. But a lot of people like to follow trends of celebs, icons and so forth. So they would like to buy things they like or would try to look like them buy purchasing products they buy.
The barbie collection was a hit because it was BARBIE. Most girls have grown up with Barbie. When you think of Barbie, what do you think of? The color pink, glitter, shimmer, etc, right?
When you think of Fafi, what do you think of? Its hard to conjure up an image because truthfully not a lot of people knew about Fafi before this launch. I personally, think Fafi has potential, I mean it was just a few days ago that it has been launched so there is a lot of time for it to hit every mac counter and store and gain its popularity.
And every collection will have its hits and misses. But I agree, the quality in a collection can either make it or break it.
| Originally Posted by MAC_Whore
I appreciate what your saying, but it really shouldn't matter that everyone knows Barbie and not too many knew Fafi. The Fafi theme and elements had potential to really score, but they missed the mark. It's a cute collection, but it had potential to be great. I realize everyone has different tastes, but I think the majority of issues a lot of folks have, myself included, is the quality (packaging, formula, etc.) and not the colours. |
Thanks. But a lot of people like to follow trends of celebs, icons and so forth. So they would like to buy things they like or would try to look like them buy purchasing products they buy.
The barbie collection was a hit because it was BARBIE. Most girls have grown up with Barbie. When you think of Barbie, what do you think of? The color pink, glitter, shimmer, etc, right?
When you think of Fafi, what do you think of? Its hard to conjure up an image because truthfully not a lot of people knew about Fafi before this launch. I personally, think Fafi has potential, I mean it was just a few days ago that it has been launched so there is a lot of time for it to hit every mac counter and store and gain its popularity.
And every collection will have its hits and misses. But I agree, the quality in a collection can either make it or break it.
purrtykitty
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I liked Barbie better. Much more my kind of colors, but that's just me.
cherryice
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Regarding the quality of eyeshadows, I wish MAC would do something like Urban Decay did and release a deluxe version of certain colors. Sure, you pay a little more, but the softness and pigment of the shades is leaps and bounds ahead of the regular shadows. I usually don't bother with the regular UD shades since a lot of them contain those island-sized chunks of glitter, but I'm in love with my UD Deluxe palette. The colors and texture are out of this world.
