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RedRibbon

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Originally Posted by kammyks
Hi hope anyone can help

RE: Inidan Bridal Look

Looking for a red and gold look for my eyemake up and have tried Mac Cranberry, passionate, Amber lights but does not come out as bright instead looks really dull. Can anyone recommend any nice red eyeshadow that will actually show up on my sis skin she ia a Mac NC 40/42 but her eye area is darker then the rest of her face. Please help we are getting desperate and did not like what the MUA used at my sis trial. Thanks
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I'm a bit confused, is it for you or your sister? You've made two posts and they both have the same facts but for different people.

Anyway, have you used a base under your eyeshadow? You can use something like Urban Decay Primer Potion, Laura Geller's Spackle, Too Faced Shadow Insurance, a MAC Paintpot, a MAC shadestick or a plain white eyeliner. I can only speak for UDPP and white eyeliner which really make the colour pop so you may have to do a few trials to make sure the colour isn't too bright. There have been many times when I've put on UDPP and the upper colour has come out too bright so just be careful..

I'm just on Karlasugar at the moment looking at red shadows and have come across Post Haste which could work pretty well, I also have a rustyish red which works pretty well on desi skin, I can't remember the name off the top of my head but it is mentioned in a post of mine on the previous page.
 

kammyks

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Thanks RedRibbom.

We tried Mac Paint Pot in Indian wood. I am waiting on the Artifact paint to come through to see if that would help make the colours better. I already own poste Haste so will try that with Artifiact if not will go and buy Urban Decay Primer to see how that works.

Sorry about the confusion - it is actually my sister who is getting married but when I was posting on here I ended up sounding like it was me getting married hence the second post (that i did not post properly either lol).
 

RedRibbon

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Originally Posted by kammyks
Thanks RedRibbom.

We tried Mac Paint Pot in Indian wood. I am waiting on the Artifact paint to come through to see if that would help make the colours better. I already own poste Haste so will try that with Artifiact if not will go and buy Urban Decay Primer to see how that works.

Sorry about the confusion - it is actually my sister who is getting married but when I was posting on here I ended up sounding like it was me getting married hence the second post (that i did not post properly either lol).


No need to apologise
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UDPP has a habit of making colours stand out really well but just be careful to not put too much on. I love Indian Wood (
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no pun intended) and I find myself using it more and more.

A base is the only thing which will make the shadow really stay on all day and also be a bit brighter. I strongly advise using the white pencil thing too, I had a colour which barely showed up on my skin so I painted my eye with the pencil, made it a bit smoother with a brush and put the colour over the top and it was really vibrant.

Try putting poste haste over the paintpot and see what happens, or, try the pp, the white pencil then poste haste.
 

DirtyPlum

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^^ applying poste haste on top of a white eyeliner base will make it more pink. a light pink.
Add white to any colour and you will get a tint of that colour as opposed to *that* colour with intensity.

Add black or a darker base to a colour for a shade of that colour - for something more red try a base with brown in it.
 

RedRibbon

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Originally Posted by DirtyPlum
^^ applying poste haste on top of a white eyeliner base will make it more pink. a light pink.
Add white to any colour and you will get a tint of that colour as opposed to *that* colour with intensity.

Add black or a darker base to a colour for a shade of that colour - for something more red try a base with brown in it.


Is there anything you don't know? *is in awe of your knowledge*

I never thought to have any different colour bases, wouldn't black just soak up the colour?
 

DirtyPlum

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Originally Posted by RedRibbon
I never thought to have any different colour bases, wouldn't black just soak up the colour?

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Adding black and adding to black give different results. Technique makes a difference, moreso.

So say if you used a black cream base such as Sharkskin or Blackground and then added post haste on top of it, you would get an intense, dark pink. Pat on poste haste and you could just get poste haste but more vibrant. Blend poste haste on top of the black then you get a muddy, darker *shade* of poste haste.

Similar to adding Carbon e/s to poste haste and blending it, you would get a darker pink.

Black wont soak a colour up unless you blend the hell out of it so that its barely there.

Best eyeshadow technique that results in flawless makeup is to use a mixture of patting on and blending eyeshadows. Both achieve completely different results irrespective of what colour base you use.

Basic colour theory teaches the different effects adding white, black and grey make.
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kammyks

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Originally Posted by DirtyPlum
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Adding black and adding to black give different results. Technique makes a difference, moreso.

So say if you used a black cream base such as Sharkskin or Blackground and then added post haste on top of it, you would get an intense, dark pink. Pat on poste haste and you could just get poste haste but more vibrant. Blend poste haste on top of the black then you get a muddy, darker *shade* of poste haste.

Similar to adding Carbon e/s to poste haste and blending it, you would get a darker pink.

Black wont soak a colour up unless you blend the hell out of it so that its barely there.

Best eyeshadow technique that results in flawless makeup is to use a mixture of patting on and blending eyeshadows. Both achieve completely different results irrespective of what colour base you use.

Basic colour theory teaches the different effects adding white, black and grey make.
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Wow so much to take in. Thanks to both of you for your suggestions.
 

TDelicate

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Hi guys! (warning long post on CC - sowwy!)
so i jes briefly played around taking in the CC collection today.. i absolutely had to get the 226 for my small eyes bcz i missed out on it last time around..
i was intrigued by both madly creative and most popular in the store.. i passed on most popular bcz i have wayy too many plummy pink colors bcz i guess they compliment my pigmented lips well and ended up getting madly creative.. but now im not too sure anymore - i hate how they can end up looking different in different lighting.. i dunno what to think of this frost finish *sigh*
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... i think im goin back with my mom tomorrow so ive got the night to sleep on it..
otherwise i also fell madly deeply in love with style demon
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even though i have merrily lol blushes are seriously my weakness.. both blushes and MSFs were really glittery (imo)- it was my first time sampling MSF's, dont own any.. and decided to pass on these too in fear of lookin like a shimmer ball..and i figured if i wanted to use it as a blush - i could get a blush itself for less.. so yeah style demon is very similar to merrily - but diff enough for me to treasure it, it'll be my token glittery blush from this collection lol
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... oh! i picked up buckwheat too.. it was a great haul
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i am wondering if i should order/hunt out a back up creme de miel bcz im really loving it.. its like all that i had hoped for gorgeous gold.. which tragically looked more light light lime green on me than any shade of gold .. has this creme de miel come out before or is it a first?
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sorry for the long post jes felt like sharing with ppl that might understand.. cant wait to play with it all
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kammyks

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Can anyone advise on what foundation brands/types/colours etc to stock up on for my make-up kit? I don't want to just get only MAC foundations. I am just starting out professionally and before I used to ask friends/relatives just to bring their own foundations with them when I did their make-up as i did not charge them but now I am getting requests from Potential clients and don't want to look unprofessional by asking clients to bring their own foundations.
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Thanks in advance for any help you all can offer
 

RedRibbon

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I've just been and had my eyebrows threaded and the lady who threads them is also a makeup artist and I asked her about her kit for you
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However, speaking from personal experience I don't think there's anything wrong with asking the client to bring something along with them. If it works for them then you should use it
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The lady who does my makeup for any major event always lets her customers bring a product of their own that they really like. Whenever she does my makeup I take along my Boujois and YSL foundation and she applies them like a dream.

She said that when choosing foundations for your kit you should try to firstly see what type of market you are aiming for, e.g. if you are going to be doing Indian brides (as she does) then you don't need to stock up on a million shades of porcelain foundation as the majority of Indian women aren't porcelained skinned. She said that when she started out (about 13 years ago now) she used to encourage women to bring their foundation to her and she would apply it but would use her own eyeshadow, blusher etc..and over time she got to know her foundation shades better and could go out and buy shades which she could mix and match so the matched perfectly with the skin of her clients.

She also said that don't buy all the colours available in one finish, some brides/customers will want to look glowing, some will want the matte look, some will have greasy skin, some will have dry skin so try to get the colours down and then buy them in differing finishes.

She said one of the best foundation "sets" she ever bought was a £100 set from Bobbi Brown as it contains so many foundations/concealers that she is always just taking that with her and has never had any complaints.

She also said that the worst mistake made by quite a few artists is being a slave to one brand/high end stuff. She said the item she uses the most in her stash is Maybelline's Great Lash mascara and nothing else she has ever used has given her such a good result.

Having said that, MUFE foundations are really good, they come in a variety of different colours and I've just picked up one for me and my mum and she loves it.
 

animacani

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Originally Posted by kammyks
Can anyone advise on what foundation brands/types/colours etc to stock up on for my make-up kit? I don't want to just get only MAC foundations. I am just starting out professionally and before I used to ask friends/relatives just to bring their own foundations with them when I did their make-up as i did not charge them but now I am getting requests from Potential clients and don't want to look unprofessional by asking clients to bring their own foundations.
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Thanks in advance for any help you all can offer


I Heart make up store and dior nude foundation!
 

kammyks

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedRibbon
I've just been and had my eyebrows threaded and the lady who threads them is also a makeup artist and I asked her about her kit for you
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However, speaking from personal experience I don't think there's anything wrong with asking the client to bring something along with them. If it works for them then you should use it
smiles.gif


The lady who does my makeup for any major event always lets her customers bring a product of their own that they really like. Whenever she does my makeup I take along my Boujois and YSL foundation and she applies them like a dream.

She said that when choosing foundations for your kit you should try to firstly see what type of market you are aiming for, e.g. if you are going to be doing Indian brides (as she does) then you don't need to stock up on a million shades of porcelain foundation as the majority of Indian women aren't porcelained skinned. She said that when she started out (about 13 years ago now) she used to encourage women to bring their foundation to her and she would apply it but would use her own eyeshadow, blusher etc..and over time she got to know her foundation shades better and could go out and buy shades which she could mix and match so the matched perfectly with the skin of her clients.

She also said that don't buy all the colours available in one finish, some brides/customers will want to look glowing, some will want the matte look, some will have greasy skin, some will have dry skin so try to get the colours down and then buy them in differing finishes.

She said one of the best foundation "sets" she ever bought was a £100 set from Bobbi Brown as it contains so many foundations/concealers that she is always just taking that with her and has never had any complaints.

She also said that the worst mistake made by quite a few artists is being a slave to one brand/high end stuff. She said the item she uses the most in her stash is Maybelline's Great Lash mascara and nothing else she has ever used has given her such a good result.

Having said that, MUFE foundations are really good, they come in a variety of different colours and I've just picked up one for me and my mum and she loves it.


RedRibbon you are the greatest. Thanks soo much.
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I have done a makeup course but it was aimed towards western clients (so easy to do make-up on) more than asians so I still have a lot of questions in regards to asians.

I have asked a couple of MUA that my friends know what is the best bridal e/s to get but they are not helpful at all and have had a rude comment from one of them. I guess they don't like competion.
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Still having trouble finding the right shades of golds and reds e/s for my sis. I tried gold mine, amber lights, Ruby Red pigment and Nars Azalea (Caravaggio Duo) all with the artifcat and Ground work paint pot but still the colours are not eye popping. I am going to try the UDPP tomorrow. I WILL find a way to get it right as the way I see it is if i can't get her right I will be losing potential clients at the Bridal trial stage! Funny thing is that I have done make overs with so many other woman (light, medium and Dark skin tones) using my Nars/mac shadows and not had a prob but for some reason my sis skin is being very difficult lol.

Wish me luck and will keep you posted on what I try next.
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TDelicate

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Originally Posted by kammyks
RedRibbon you are the greatest. Thanks soo much.
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I have done a makeup course but it was aimed towards western clients (so easy to do make-up on) more than asians so I still have a lot of questions in regards to asians.

I have asked a couple of MUA that my friends know what is the best bridal e/s to get but they are not helpful at all and have had a rude comment from one of them. I guess they don't like competion.
angry.gif


Still having trouble finding the right shades of golds and reds e/s for my sis. I tried gold mine, amber lights, Ruby Red pigment and Nars Azalea (Caravaggio Duo) all with the artifcat and Ground work paint pot but still the colours are not eye popping. I am going to try the UDPP tomorrow. I WILL find a way to get it right as the way I see it is if i can't get her right I will be losing potential clients at the Bridal trial stage! Funny thing is that I have done make overs with so many other woman (light, medium and Dark skin tones) using my Nars/mac shadows and not had a prob but for some reason my sis skin is being very difficult lol.

Wish me luck and will keep you posted on what I try next.
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i'm not a pro by any means.. but jes thought of some options.. you could maybe try some mineral e/s like from bare escentuals.. i know some of those mineralized loose e/s are crazy pigmented.. or try foiling loose e/s.. that makes it really gleam/vivid too.. orr also.. ive seen ppl layer on some mac reflects to either the crease or lid for instance, and that's caught my eye before too for bringing up the glam factor..
hth a bit!

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Ziya

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Hey ladies, quick question....
I recently bought Margin and Sunbasque blushes and they look really similar to me. I'm wondering which I should keep or which you prefer?
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TIA
 

RedRibbon

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Another question ladies (sorry!)

I need a good lip primer as when I apply my lipstick it settles into those lines you have on your lips. I've always had these lines and I do always use SPF lip balm. I have noticed that only my High Street brand of lippy does this but I can't find another company which makes the same kinda shade.

Thanks
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ambodidi

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Hello again ladies, I've already posted this in another website, but I read that Katrina Kaif uses NC41. I was kind of surprised, because she is 'fair' for a South Asian. What would you say she is?
 

highonmac

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Quote:
Originally Posted by kammyks
Can anyone advise on what foundation brands/types/colours etc to stock up on for my make-up kit? I don't want to just get only MAC foundations. I am just starting out professionally and before I used to ask friends/relatives just to bring their own foundations with them when I did their make-up as i did not charge them but now I am getting requests from Potential clients and don't want to look unprofessional by asking clients to bring their own foundations.
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Thanks in advance for any help you all can offer


HI! Well, I heard Revlon Colour stay has an excellent colour range and are fairly cheap to stock up on as apposed to MAC or MUFE or any other highher end brands. A lot of ma use this brand of foundation for their kits as it is not pricey at all! Why not check that out? I think, according to a few reviews, that is supposed to be comparable to the mac studiofix fluid
 

highonmac

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Originally Posted by Ziya
Hey ladies, quick question....
I recently bought Margin and Sunbasque blushes and they look really similar to me. I'm wondering which I should keep or which you prefer?
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TIA


I have neither ziya but from looking at swatches online, sunbasque is really pretty. It has a certain glow about it right? How does it look on your cheeks? If is really similar i say keep...sunbasque
 
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