Vegan Diet

Jacq-i

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I'm vegetarian, and have been for 3 1/2 years... I sometimes eat milk/cheese/eggs, but mostly its honey that keeps me from being vegan... One day I'll make the change.

Anyway, I miss candy. Thankfully, Wrigley's gum (ORBIT!!) is vegan, so that keeps me going.
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My family and friends have been supportive thus far... I just wish I knew more vegetarians/vegans offline.
 

sewpunk

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Originally Posted by angeldust
awww i love this thread !!! i'm pescetarian because i can't kick my sushi habit, otherwise i would probably be vegan as well.

Ditto. I love fish and will never be vegan b/c of it.
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I've had been a vegetarian for 8+ years, but was having terrible cravings for fish. I was waking up in the middle of the night, craving any type of fish. So I caved, I started eating fish. Mostly canned tuna, occasionaly salmon, shell fish, and all types of white fish. Untill I decided I thought I didn't need it anymore. I was off fish. I had vegetarian guilt.

My next step was to to take my diet up to veganism level. I know how bad dairy is for me (and the poor cows!). I was ready to give veganism a chance.

Well about a year ago I started being a praticing vegan. After many, many months, and being off all dairy, fish, eggs & animal products, I found I cannot sleep when I haven't had fish in a while, I feel weak, I get really bitchy, things are just generally out of wack. It was the same feeling I was getting when I was off fish as a vegetarian.

So I caved again, and have been off all amnmal products, except fish.

I have put a lot of thought into my decision about deciding to give myself permission to eat fish. It is the one animal I am comfortable in consuming. If I had to, I could go out and catch my fish dinner, de-scale and gut it. I could not say the same about any other animal. It was a hard decision to make, I want to be vegan, but not to the point where by body is throwing fits. (And I am a whole foods fanatic, I stay away from all processed foods as humany possible)
 

lovalotz

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angeldust, OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT!!
Guys...I think I might need help!
I have no problem with the vegetarian diet at the moment..
but my mom sure does.
I saw this coming a while ago. She's real worried and I think is on the verge of force feeding me a steak. She keeps telling me"You should wait until you've finished school and have your own living before you continue this.." or "Why bother? You can't possibly get enough nutrients from what you're eating" I'm already eating eggs and occasionally milk. ='( what should i do?
 

lovalotz

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angeldust, OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT!!
Guys...I think I might need help!
I have no problem with the vegetarian diet at the moment..
but my mom sure does.
I saw this coming a while ago. She's real worried and I think is on the verge of force feeding me a steak. She keeps telling me"You should wait until you've finished school and have your own living before you continue this.." or "Why bother? You can't possibly get enough nutrients from what you're eating" I'm already eating eggs and occasionally milk. ='( what should i do?
 

Raerae

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lol...

yeh people always think not eating meat is not healthy... especially meat lovers. :confused:

You have to educate if you want to get your parents on your side. And I would probably suggest being as scientific as you can about it.

I.E.

eigther ask them to take you to a nutritionist who can create a diet for you, find a way to see/pay for one yourself, or start researching the types of things a body needs in order to stay healthy. This way you can show them that being veggie is possible, and you can be healthy while doing it.

if your just eating eggs/toast for breakfast with a glass of milk, and a salad or chips or candy or french fries or whatever, your not eating healthy. Just a FYI.

The reason they are saying your not getting enough nutrients is because you probably aren't. being a veggie/vegan/whatever, and staying healthy while doing it is a LOT harder than being on a typical diet that uses all the food groups.

See my next post for some basic google research from typing, "healthy diet" into the search bar.
 

Raerae

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this is from: http://www.healthy.net/asp/templates...rticle&Id=1173

Basic Nutrients Your Child Needs
The four basic building blocks of your child's diet are water, complex carbohydrates, proteins, and fats. A proper balance of these essentials is necessary for optimum health. The table on page 48 provides a brief introduction to your child's fundamental dietary requirements, as well as a guide to the functions and food sources of these four dietary elements. A diet based on a wide variety of simply prepared whole foods is most likely to meet your child's basic nutritional needs.

Parents who raise their children as vegetarians must take special care not only to provide adequate protein for healthy growth, but also to teach their children about a nutrient-rich and protein-adequate diet. Many plant foods do not contain the full spectrum of eight amino acids that make up a complete protein. At one time it was thought that to provide a complete protein, certain foods--such as rice and beans-had to be combined and eaten at the same time. Now we know that a diet based on a variety of vegetables, legumes, and grains will provide adequate protein for a child. However, it is important that vegetarian children eat a varied, balanced diet in order to get the full spectrum of amino acids, and therefore complete protein.

Also necessary for good health are nutrients that together are classified as micronutrients, which include vitamins and minerals.

Vitamins
Vitamins are essential to normal body function. They are not a form of energy or fuel, as foods are. But they play an indispensable role in the normal metabolism, growth, and development of your child's body.

Vitamins are classified as either water-soluble or fat soluble, depending upon which type of molecule (fat- or water-based) transports them in the bloodstream. Water-soluble vitamins include all of the B complex and vitamin C. These vitamins are quickly used by the body or excreted in urine, so they must be replenished daily. Water-soluble vitamins may leach out of foods during cooking, be damaged by overprocessing, or be destroyed when foods are overcooked.

The fat-soluble vitamins-A, D, E, and K-are fairly stable during low-temperature cooking. However, antibiotics, mineral oil, and certain drugs (steroids, for example) interfere with their absorption from the digestive tract. Frying foods alters the fat-soluble vitamins in them as well.

For a review of the vitamins your child needs every day, as well as their respective functions and food sources, see the table on page 50.

Minerals
Minerals are part of all body tissues and fluids. They are essential in nerve responses, muscle contractions, maintaining proper fluid balance, and the internal processing of nutrients. Minerals influence the manufacture of hormones and regulate electrolyte balance throughout the body. The term electrolyte refers to the form in which various minerals circulate in the body. Calcium, potassium, and sodium are examples of important electrolytes. Calcium, for example, is not only an important constituent of bones and teeth; it is also involved in the transmission of nerve impulses, the transmission of energy from cell to cell, and the contraction and relaxation of muscles, including the heart. Calcium, potassium, and magnesium together control the continuous cycle of contraction and relaxation of the heart muscle and blood vessels. If these electrolytes are out of balance, resulting fluid shifts may cause swelling or dehydration, the neuromuscular system may become irritable, or an irregular heart rhythm may develop.

Minerals are excreted daily and must be replaced either through the diet or in supplement form. Of all the vitamins and minerals, calcium and iron are probably the most important for children, and may be valuable to take as supplements. For a quick review of the minerals your child needs every day, as well as their functions and food sources, see the table on page 52.

Diet and nutrition comprise a huge subject that deserves your time and attention. Read more, experiment with new and different foods, use cookbooks devoted to whole-foods cooking, and ask lots of questions. The more you understand about food and nutrition, the more committed you will be to providing a healthy, wholesome diet for your child.
 

Raerae

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Working with a Nutritional Counselor
There are many different kinds of professionals, with varied educational backgrounds and philosophies, who can recommend dietary programs and nutritional supplements. Registered dietitians, nutritionists, naturopathic physicians, chiropractors, medical doctors, and nurses-to name only a few-may all practice nutritional medicine. When interviewing a nutritional counselor, whether the person is a medical doctor or macrobiotic counselor, find out about his or her educational background, work experience, and nutritional philosophy.

Nutrition is a broad and constantly changing field. Providing a healthy, well-balanced, allergen-free diet, along with nutritional supplements when needed, may be the most important thing you can do to support your child's health. You may need assistance planning the optimum diet. Choose a counselor you feel you can work with, a person who believes in the fundamental importance of a healthy diet. As with any health care practitioner, choose a person who knows the current research, who is compassionate, and who will work with you as a partner to create the healthiest, most manageable plan possible.
 

Raerae

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So yeh... in a nut shell thats probably why your parents are afraid that your not getting enough nutrients. It's fairly common knowlege that you need to get complete proteins in order to be healthy and grow. Which is probably why you Mom is worried about you, and wants you to wait until you have stopped growing before trying this type of a diet. Getting all 8 proteins from veggies is a bit more difficult than just eating a piece of chicken, or whatever.

Tofu i believe is a complete protein (has all 8) but I find it difficult to eat tofu every single day of the week in every meal. So you have to learn how to mix it up. Being veggie means that in order to do it right, your going to have to learn to take an active role in your diet, and also the preparation of your foods. Knowing what you foods are made up of is also nice to know, so you know what your getting when you eat. if you have protiens 1234 from 1 veggie, you know you also need 5678 from another, so to speak.

There is a lot of info out there, just gotta take the time.
 

lovalotz

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From what I can tell, I am getting most of the nutrients that I need.
Being from an Asian family, my household eats tofu practically every meal as well as leafy veggies. And hopefully I'll get around to seeing a nutritionist soon.
 

Raerae

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One thing I can suggest doing, it getting on a protein shake? Those are pretty good for rounding out calories, and obviously protein. Just check the ingredients.
 

lovalotz

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Thank u girls for ur support!
Occasionally I get cravings...but it's alright because I know it's worth it.
My mom instantly ordered a load of stuff from Herbalife..pills (multivitamins, cell activators, and some other things that i have no clue are) and tons of protein shake mixes..which she blends with some fruit and milk. It's sooo good!
 

blueyesdancing

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I haven't read through the whole thread yet but wanted to say I am a vegetarian and am very happy to see so many veggies and veg-friendly people here!! Woohooo!
 

DaizyDeath

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i highly recomend everone reads the books
becomeing vegan
and becomeing vegitarian

ive never been one to read a whole book through without skipping or stopping but with those books i read the whole things and then photocopied as much as i could at my work. haha
 

Jacq-i

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Thanksgiving is around the corner... You know what that means... Tofurky!!
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I love that stuff.
 

lovalotz

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hahaha
i haven't been checking this forum in a while..
sorry about that girls!
For update, i've been doing pretty well. =D
 

kelizabethk

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I've been vego for about 5 years. I don't take any vitamins/actively increase my intake of anything to replace what meat would give me, and whenever I get blood tests done it usually comes back saying my iron levels are even higher than that of a meat eater. I honestly don't believe humans need meat, I think we've basically evolved past that and discovered new foods that replace exactly what meat would give us, but without having to slaughter an animal to get it.

Sorry I haven't read the whole thread so I don't know if it's been asked yet, but have you had some tests done to see how your body is coping so far?
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lovalotz

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Originally Posted by kelizabethk
I've been vego for about 5 years. I don't take any vitamins/actively increase my intake of anything to replace what meat would give me, and whenever I get blood tests done it usually comes back saying my iron levels are even higher than that of a meat eater. I honestly don't believe humans need meat, I think we've basically evolved past that and discovered new foods that replace exactly what meat would give us, but without having to slaughter an animal to get it.

Sorry I haven't read the whole thread so I don't know if it's been asked yet, but have you had some tests done to see how your body is coping so far?
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The only thing that i have actually done so far was a blood test, but that one was okay. Thanks for your lovin' girlies!
 

Kiwi Girlie

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I've been a vegetarian since I was about 9, I just can't stand the texture and taste of meat. I take multi vitamins everyday and am pretty healthy. I love being a vegetarian theres so many yummy meals that don't include meat
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The only problem I get is my Iron levels do get low at times, but a few iron tablets fixes that
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Jacq-i

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So vegans/vegetarians... How are you doing?

My university just started selling Odwalla juices & bars, which I can get by using my mealcard. I love these!! There are a few with vegetarian Omega 3, (flax seed), which makes me super excited. Plus Odwalla makes a bunch of delicious soy milk drinks as well.
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