Very Important Nude Lip Video
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mrslovejoy
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Personally, I don't see anything wrong with silver lips. It all depends on which silver you use. For example Bubbles l/s and Bobbi Brown's Chrome l/s are a better choice of silver l/s for WOC versus Metal Maven l/s.
banana1234
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lol, i love josh, i think i do most of his don'ts!
Nepenthe
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I remember the first time I heard him say jizz lips (an older video) and I nearly died laughing.
His points are valid in my mind, and I've never quite understood why some people feel that a product that is 'nude' for lighter skin tones would translate perfectly onto darker skin tones. I feel like his point was to look for equivalents, rather than trying to make the exact same product work for you.. which is some wisdom. If I wouldn't use your concealer shade, why would I use your 'nude' lipstick shade.. since it's essentially the same thing.
I definitely feel like there should be no rules in makeup, but sometimes it comes down to common sense. For example.. blending away the demarcation line along your jaw, or the wrong foundation shade, ashy products etc.
His points are valid in my mind, and I've never quite understood why some people feel that a product that is 'nude' for lighter skin tones would translate perfectly onto darker skin tones. I feel like his point was to look for equivalents, rather than trying to make the exact same product work for you.. which is some wisdom. If I wouldn't use your concealer shade, why would I use your 'nude' lipstick shade.. since it's essentially the same thing.
I definitely feel like there should be no rules in makeup, but sometimes it comes down to common sense. For example.. blending away the demarcation line along your jaw, or the wrong foundation shade, ashy products etc.
DJ_Roxas
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I agree with this petrilude on the no-no's of nude lips. That was my first mistake with starting out on make-up.
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A video that i think a LOT of people should watch!! jizz lip lol YouTube - Nude Lips |
I agree with this petrilude on the no-no's of nude lips. That was my first mistake with starting out on make-up.
seymone25
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To each his own.. I am no longer a fan of his. I dont think the video was helpful at all. It felt more like a parody than anything else. It was crazy how he kept focusing his criticism on dark women. A true artist would have told you, what to do to help fix the color if it didnt work.
If someone were to go to light on a nude lipstick then tell them to use a deeper brown lipliner whether cool or warm depending on the person skintone. To alter the shades, not make up silly names to call people. (side note: Petrilude and Xsparkage really need to come down off the high horse because I seen both of them not looking too hot.)
Anyway, you would think he would be more sensitive to the situation. Especially when people can think of numerous names to call him since he is a man wearing makeup.. Rant done.
If someone were to go to light on a nude lipstick then tell them to use a deeper brown lipliner whether cool or warm depending on the person skintone. To alter the shades, not make up silly names to call people. (side note: Petrilude and Xsparkage really need to come down off the high horse because I seen both of them not looking too hot.)
Anyway, you would think he would be more sensitive to the situation. Especially when people can think of numerous names to call him since he is a man wearing makeup.. Rant done.
DJ_Roxas
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I have to agree with you, sometimes petrilude and xsparkage do come off as egotistical and but I think a disclamier would be nice if you doing paradies so people won't get sensitive about it, and this should include xsparkage with her "Un-werable" Wednesday video. Because she does come off as "I'm better than you" in her video. I'm still wondering how she became a 17 Magazine Beauty Smarties, they're were more deserving Guru's like Miss Chevious, Miss Jessica Harlow or fafinettex3. But 17 should did fine with the 9 beauty smarties but xsparkage?! What gives with her, in my opinion she does the kind of make-up you might see a drag queen would wear (no offense to any of the drag queens out there.) It's just doesn't look wearable even her werable Wednesday looks dramatic, in my opinion.
Petrilude on the other hand is probably just doesn't care what people think about him. From the videos I watched from him. Can't get much off of him.
| Originally Posted by seymone25
To each his own.. I am no longer a fan of his. I dont think the video was helpful at all. It felt more like a parody than anything else. It was crazy how he kept focusing his criticism on dark women. A true artist would have told you, what to do to help fix the color if it didnt work. If someone were to go to light on a nude lipstick then tell them to use a deeper brown lipliner whether cool or warm depending on the person skintone. To alter the shades, not make up silly names to call people. (side note: Petrilude and Xsparkage really need to come down off the high horse because I seen both of them not looking too hot.) Anyway, you would think he would be more sensitive to the situation. Especially when people can think of numerous names to call him since he is a man wearing makeup.. Rant done. |
I have to agree with you, sometimes petrilude and xsparkage do come off as egotistical and but I think a disclamier would be nice if you doing paradies so people won't get sensitive about it, and this should include xsparkage with her "Un-werable" Wednesday video. Because she does come off as "I'm better than you" in her video. I'm still wondering how she became a 17 Magazine Beauty Smarties, they're were more deserving Guru's like Miss Chevious, Miss Jessica Harlow or fafinettex3. But 17 should did fine with the 9 beauty smarties but xsparkage?! What gives with her, in my opinion she does the kind of make-up you might see a drag queen would wear (no offense to any of the drag queens out there.) It's just doesn't look wearable even her werable Wednesday looks dramatic, in my opinion.
Petrilude on the other hand is probably just doesn't care what people think about him. From the videos I watched from him. Can't get much off of him.
reesesilverstar
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I'm going to have to agree with Seymone. I watch his vids and while he does give good tips sometimes, I felt I learned nothing in this video.
I guess that means I like jizz lips or whatever he calls them.
I guess that means I like jizz lips or whatever he calls them.
seymone25
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I guess I like jizz lips as well.. LOL
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| Originally Posted by reesesilverstar
I'm going to have to agree with Seymone. I watch his vids and while he does give good tips sometimes, I felt I learned nothing in this video. I guess that means I like jizz lips or whatever he calls them. |
shontay07108
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I watched this video expecting to be offended but I am not offended at all. I actually agree with what he said. I, personally, don't like the look of silver lips on anyone. To each their own, but I feel like he should be able to say he doesn't like it and giving a "special shoutout to the sistas" doesn't offend me b/c that's one of the biggest mistakes I see WOC make. And that's not just b/c I don't like the look of it, but the WOC I see do this, in person, have not done it well.
having said that, I'm not a fan of his and I won't be watching anymore of his videos b/c he just didn't capture me, but I see nothing wrong with his opinion. If, however, you like that silver look, then by all means, do you.
having said that, I'm not a fan of his and I won't be watching anymore of his videos b/c he just didn't capture me, but I see nothing wrong with his opinion. If, however, you like that silver look, then by all means, do you.
Kragey
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I think his point was that it's very difficult for a fair-skinned woman to have a "too light" lip, but it's very easy for that to happen to WOC. This is especially true when you remember that the cosmetics industry is still not very open to the needs of WOC; many WOC are told that such-and-such a color is a nude and, maybe being new to makeup, assume that that means it's a nude for them, too. In actuality, most of what we call "nude" lipsticks are only true nudes for light-to-light/medium women.
I would also like to add that Josh/Petrilude could be considered a person of color, so it's hard for me to see the comment as a deliberate "hater" comment.
I've made lip color suggestions before based on general "skin tone," and I would hate for people to think I'm being racist or condescending when I suggest that such-and-such a color works better on darker women than this-and-this a color, which is "too light." Because the reality is that most make-up gurus openly admit that you should wear whatever makes you happy, regardless of their opinion.
I would also like to add that Josh/Petrilude could be considered a person of color, so it's hard for me to see the comment as a deliberate "hater" comment.
I've made lip color suggestions before based on general "skin tone," and I would hate for people to think I'm being racist or condescending when I suggest that such-and-such a color works better on darker women than this-and-this a color, which is "too light." Because the reality is that most make-up gurus openly admit that you should wear whatever makes you happy, regardless of their opinion.
mrslovejoy
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**Team Jizz-Lip**
I just wanted to add that personally I'm not upset with his opinion, because it's just his opinion. I'm just looking for a friendly discussion about what said in this video.
I don't care about what someone else (who might I add is not the same color as me) says would look good on me. I'll shout it from the rooftop..I'M A WOC WHO LIKES TO WEAR SILVER L/S & L/G AND I LOOK DAMN GOOD IN IT!!! Some people get caught up in these youtube "gurus" so much that they believe everything they say is the gospel. I just want them to have a broader scope when it comes to what colors WOC can pull off. Shoot, there are people still out there who believe that WOC can't wear pinks or reds.
With that being said, I agree with DJ, Seymone & Reese, in that his videos are of no use for me.
**skips off to watch Scandalous Beauty's videos**
I just wanted to add that personally I'm not upset with his opinion, because it's just his opinion. I'm just looking for a friendly discussion about what said in this video.
I don't care about what someone else (who might I add is not the same color as me) says would look good on me. I'll shout it from the rooftop..I'M A WOC WHO LIKES TO WEAR SILVER L/S & L/G AND I LOOK DAMN GOOD IN IT!!! Some people get caught up in these youtube "gurus" so much that they believe everything they say is the gospel. I just want them to have a broader scope when it comes to what colors WOC can pull off. Shoot, there are people still out there who believe that WOC can't wear pinks or reds.
With that being said, I agree with DJ, Seymone & Reese, in that his videos are of no use for me.
**skips off to watch Scandalous Beauty's videos**
Lovey99
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I agree 100% with Seymone. I have been busy today, but made a note to come back and comment. Seymone beat me to it. I did not find the video helpful, nor did I find it funny.
Petrilude is a good mua, but his attitude and personality are ornery. You can be helpful to people without being offensive and/or callous. I find his videos to display consistent arrogance, thus I unsubscribed.
Petrilude is a good mua, but his attitude and personality are ornery. You can be helpful to people without being offensive and/or callous. I find his videos to display consistent arrogance, thus I unsubscribed.
DigitalRain
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This is a perfect example of the phrase "Opinions are like a**holes, everybody has one."
Nothing he is saying is law. Not liking silver or pale nudes on woc sounds like a personal issue he has. Oh well, that's life (insert kanye shrug)
Nothing he is saying is law. Not liking silver or pale nudes on woc sounds like a personal issue he has. Oh well, that's life (insert kanye shrug)
