WOC: Venomous Villains

[sss215]

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Originally Posted by honybr ^^IA. (Thanks for answering my question earlier). I've been looking all over to see what would work for a chocolate sister like me. Thanks Shontay for your swatches - we appear to be similar shades and it was very helpful. Does anyone know if Wicked Ways is similar to Venetian lustreglss? I'm wanting to try more true reds.

Wicked Ways is a more pigmented red. Its more of a truer red than Venetian. I love Venetian, but its sheer in comparison. In terms of a perm color like Wicked Ways, I think of Russian Red, but without the pearl/microsparkle

 

[honybr]

Ok - thanks. I'm scared of looking like a clown, so maybe I'll try the sheer one first.

 

[sss215]

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Originally Posted by honybr Ok - thanks. I'm scared of looking like a clown, so maybe I'll try the sheer one first.

Wicked Ways is a good red. Its a blue red, so you should be fine with it. I almost got it. What stopped me? My pocketbook. I really didn't want to over do it, spending on the collection. When you go to the store test it.

 

[honybr]

Thanks for all your responses. The pocketbook may slow me down as well. There are just too many new items coming out and I have to prioritize.

 

[Sass]

I got the tweet. Erin just posted her VV review on her blog... MAC Venomous Villians Collection Swatches + Recommendations | Scandalous Beauty Blog

 

[Twinkle_Twinkle]

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Originally Posted by sss215 She is brown, but not the brown I was talking about. I am talking about the obvious: NW43, NW45, NW47, NC50, etc. Karen's swatches don't show you what the colors will look like on someone who is in those color ranges. I like that I can see the texture and finish from her swatches, but as far as coloring no. I'm talking someone my color getting a press kit and blogging about it. There was nothing out there like that.

I understand what you are saying and what you meant. I just pointed out that Karen is brown because the WOC forum isn't solely geared to women who are NW43 and darker.

I think the bigger issue is that there isn't a darker beauty blogger who is as big as Temptalia, or MBB, so as a result, no one of those skin tones is receiving press kits and PR products. I think there are several reasons for this, which could be debated in a separate thread, but the bottom line is that it sucks for cocoa people.

 

[Sass]

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Originally Posted by Twinkle_Twinkle I understand what you are saying and what you meant. I just pointed out that Karen is brown because the WOC forum isn't solely geared to women who are NW43 and darker. I think the bigger issue is that there isn't a darker beauty blogger who is as big as Temptalia, or MBB, so as a result, no one of those skin tones is receiving press kits and PR products. I think there are several reasons for this, which could be debated in a separate thread, but the bottom line is that it sucks for cocoa people.

Erin is big (so I thought - she gets a lot of traffic as a big big beauty blogger for black women) and she got a PR package from MAC. She didn't do an extensive review, but she posted a small one today never the less. I think it took her some time to actually play with the products first. She did not swatch on her face, but she might do it in a Youtube video. I will just have to wait and see.

Anyway, I hope this helps.

 

[sss215]

My swatches are up! they are here

I swatched BoA. on the back of my hand, on my finger and on my cheeks. The color looks different each time, but ultimately its beautiful as a blush when applied.

 

[Sass]

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Originally Posted by sss215 My swatches are up! they are here I swatched BoA. on the back of my hand, on my finger and on my cheeks. The color looks different each time, but ultimately its beautiful as a blush when applied.

Bite of an Apple look so pretty on you! Now I'm getting very excited. Thanks for the swatches!

 

[gabi03]

I feel so left out, I didn't get to go to an event but i was able to swatch some stuff last week and preorder. I ended up with all lipglosses, the MES shadows and Bite of an Apple. For some reason the eyeshadows just seemed completely dupeable. Those had such potential....

 

[sss215]

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Originally Posted by Sass Erin is big (so I thought - she gets a lot of traffic as a big big beauty blogger for black women) and she got a PR package from MAC. She didn't do an extensive review, but she posted a small one today never the less. I think it took her some time to actually play with the products first. She did not swatch on her face, but she might do it in a Youtube video. I will just have to wait and see. Anyway, I hope this helps.

I am assuming, based on the timeline when temptalia and MBB got their items and Erin just posting, it looks like she just got her package for review. The other bloggers had the goods for a while. Puzzles me and I agree. She has a popular site. I guess I am annoyed that the representation seems one sided. Alot of darker women of color buy alot of MAC products. I shop at the stores when they shop, so I know. Oh well, swatches are up now, can't dwell on it anymore.

 

[sss215]

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Originally Posted by Sass Bite of an Apple look so pretty on you! Now I'm getting very excited. Thanks for the swatches!

Thanks! I really love it!

 

[Twinkle_Twinkle]

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Originally Posted by sss215 I am assuming, based on the timeline when temptalia and MBB got their items and Erin just posting, it looks like she just got her package for review. The other bloggers had the goods for a while. Puzzles me and I agree. She has a popular site. I guess I am annoyed that the representation seems one sided. Alot of darker women of color buy alot of MAC products. I shop at the stores when they shop, so I know. Oh well, swatches are up now, can't dwell on it anymore.

Exactly. Karen from MBB, the blogger behind Temptalia and another blogger were actually invited to an event hosted by Disney and MAC where they got a special unveiling and received every single item in special boxes, and this happened a quite a while ago. Erin from Scandalous Beauty on the other hand, I suppose got these items relatively recently. At this point some of us beauty civilians have had a chance to go to events and purchase items so...


It just sucks for her I guess, because VV posts and looks have been up on the other blogs for well over a month now. I'm assuming that this is a matter of numbers for the companies involved. I think Scandalous Beauty has done well since Erin started it, but I wonder how her traffic resembles those of the aforementioned blogs. I think it's true that a lot of WOC buy MAC and other cosmetics, but it's really not about that to MAC and other co,'s it's about traffic to their sites and their popularity and none of us really know what their numbers are.

 

[sss215]

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Originally Posted by Twinkle_Twinkle Exactly. Karen from MBB, the blogger behind Temptalia and another blogger were actually invited to an event hosted by Disney and MAC where they got a special unveiling and received every single item in special boxes, and this happened a quite a while ago. Erin from Scandalous Beauty on the other hand, I suppose got these items relatively recently. At this point some of us beauty civilians have had a chance to go to events and purchase items so... It just sucks for her I guess, because VV posts and looks have been up on the other blogs for well over a month now. I'm assuming that this is a matter of numbers for the companies involved. I think Scandalous Beauty has done well since Erin started it, but I wonder how her traffic resembles those of the aforementioned blogs. I think it's true that a lot of WOC buy MAC and other cosmetics, but it's really not about that to MAC and other co,'s it's about traffic to their sites and their popularity and none of us really know what their numbers are.

I said I was going to stop, but I really see your point right there!

 

[shontay07108]

I find it amusing that Erin suggests or Innocence, Beware! as something we might like. That's the last lipstick I would buy. I expected her to choose Toxic Tale since she is not afraid of a bold lip look (which is exactly why I respect her). Oh well...

Now that I have been beaten into submission about Bite of an Apple, I really wished I had bought it Tuesday. Now I'm going to have to either stalk the site on Monday or go straight from work to my local Mac Thursday. Grr.

 

[Curly1908]

You ladies brought up excellent points. I was happy to see that Erin finally did get a press kit for the collection. And her reviews are excellent as usual.

I'm loving the BOA + Heartless + Wicked Ways combo that was posted! Beautiful.

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Originally Posted by shontay07108 Toxic Tale is great on brown skin. It was made for us. Some may not like it, but that leaves more for those of us who love it and dare to step outside of the box. It's a must.

I politely disagree.

I'm a firm believer that all skin tones can wear ANY color, but that doesn't mean that all skin tones can wear ALL shades of any color. This is not about "stepping outside of the box". I enjoy bold/bright lips. This is about what looks nice/flattering on swatches for brown skin -- not a personal attack against you.

I'm not discussing your makeup application technique, your personal choice of colors, your face, etc. I'm discussing how I think the LIPSTICK/LIPGLOSS SWATCHES look on brown skin as I do with all collections I'm interested in (both online and off-line). I think Toxic Tale looks a hot HOT mess on brown skin. That's just my personal opinion. You disagree with me, and that's cool too! But don't accuse someone of "not thinking outside the box" just because they don't agree with you. That's immature.

 

[Paint&Ink Chick]

I think now im going to re-do my list. I have hothouse from the past collection but hardly wear it. It does look pretty over "Go for it l/s tho

 

[BeautyByLele]

The MAC Pro Stores launched VV yesterday. Trying to decide if I should drive an hour away to go to my Pro store OR pre-sell @ my local MAC store. . . . (i dunno) Im thinking about only purchasing a few items BofA blush, Heartless (l/s), Hot House & Wicked Way (l/g) The MCLP seems cool but i think imma wait on that since it might become perm

 

[shontay07108]

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Originally Posted by Curly1908 You ladies brought up excellent points. I was happy to see that Erin finally did get a press kit for the collection. And her reviews are excellent as usual. I'm loving the BOA + Heartless + Wicked Ways combo that was posted! Beautiful. I politely disagree. I'm a firm believer that all skin tones can wear ANY color, but that doesn't mean that all skin tones can wear ALL shades of any color. This is not about "stepping outside of the box". I enjoy bold/bright lips. This is about what looks nice/flattering on swatches for brown skin -- not a personal attack against you. I'm not discussing your makeup application technique, your personal choice of colors, your face, etc. I'm discussing how I think the LIPSTICK/LIPGLOSS SWATCHES look on brown skin as I do with all collections I'm interested in (both online and off-line). I think Toxic Tale looks a hot HOT mess on brown skin. That's just my personal opinion. You disagree with me, and that's cool too! But don't accuse someone of "not thinking outside the box" just because they don't agree with you. That's immature.

Sorry the "not thinking outside the box" offended you. Of course you are entitled to your opinion. It's a sore spot, for almost anyone I think, when you love something and then read/hear it described as a hot mess.

I'm not gonna take this thread off track and go into who's immature, who's too sensitive, how to express your opinion, misunderstanding, etc. You think TT is a hot mess, I love it. That's life.

 

[Lovey99]

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Originally Posted by Curly1908 Yay! There are brown girl swatches for VV now!!!! Toxic Tale looks a hot mess on brown skin, but all the other lippies look beautiful!!!!

I agree. I have yet to see Toxic Tale look even decent on brown skin. It just looks terrible!