YT Gurus Allthatglitters21 and Juicystar07 at NY Fashion Week

[Kragey]

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Originally Posted by MAC'sMyBF O wow I wasn't aware of this so thats really taking advantage of the system. Not cool, well Im disliking them more and more now.

I think you'll find that a lot of people do it.

And I have to ask, if that counts as "taking advantage," do CPs count? To be quite frank, it always kind of annoyed me that if I wanted "pro colors," I had to get somebody with a card to do a CP. I mean, I get it if certain products or quantities are considered "pro," but it always struck me as being ridiculous that different COLORS are considered pro. What, a pro can use such-and-such a shade better than Joe Schmo me?

 

[coachkitten]

Kragey you don't have to be a pro member to order pro colors. I am not a pro member and I have ordered many times from the 1-800 for MAC pro or just called a pro store directly. You have to pay regular price but anyone is allowed the colors.

 

[LMD84]

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Originally Posted by coachkitten Kragey you don't have to be a pro member to order pro colors. I am not a pro member and I have ordered many times from the 1-800 for MAC pro or just called a pro store directly. You have to pay regular price but anyone is allowed the colors.

yes this is true hun! it's a pain we can't just order from the website but at least we can get our hands on the colours we want!

 

[Kragey]

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Originally Posted by coachkitten Kragey you don't have to be a pro member to order pro colors. I am not a pro member and I have ordered many times from the 1-800 for MAC pro or just called a pro store directly. You have to pay regular price but anyone is allowed the colors.

My point is, why should I have to jump through hoops to get a different COLOR? That never made sense to me.

 

[coachkitten]

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Originally Posted by Kragey My point is, why should I have to jump through hoops to get a different COLOR? That never made sense to me.

Oh sorry I totally misunderstood!

 

[Kragey]

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Originally Posted by coachkitten Oh sorry I totally misunderstood!

Nah, nah, you're good.

 

[Boasorte]

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Originally Posted by Kragey I think you'll find that a lot of people do it. And I have to ask, if that counts as "taking advantage," do CPs count? To be quite frank, it always kind of annoyed me that if I wanted "pro colors," I had to get somebody with a card to do a CP. I mean, I get it if certain products or quantities are considered "pro," but it always struck me as being ridiculous that different COLORS are considered pro. What, a pro can use such-and-such a shade better than Joe Schmo me?

you don't need to PRO card to shop at the PRO store. MY job is a couple of blocks away from PRO and I dip in there from time to time

And yea the certain PRO colors confuse me too.

Does anyone know about Kandee Johnson, speaking of gurus, theres drama surrounding her too. She's facing child endangerment charges for leaving her kid alone while she went to LA. And she put it on her blog, WHO DOES THAT?
And she's asking for donations for a lawyer -_-

 

[MAC'sMyBF]

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Originally Posted by MsWestchesterNY you don't need to PRO card to shop at the PRO store. MY job is a couple of blocks away from PRO and I dip in there from time to time And yea the certain PRO colors confuse me too. Does anyone know about Kandee Johnson, speaking of gurus, theres drama surrounding her too. She's facing child endangerment charges for leaving her kid alone while she went to LA. And she put it on her blog, WHO DOES THAT? And she's asking for donations for a lawyer -_-

Well this is a sad situation, but if she's endangering her children and being public about it thats her fault and stupidity. Her child might loose and entire year of school because of this but thats the least of the issue here, she left him alone for like 4 days! Its pretty childish that she's asking for money for a lawyer.

 

[MAC'sMyBF]

Internet Makeup Guru Kandee Johnson Charged With Leaving Child Home Alone

 

[LMD84]

wow... her poor child

if all that is stated is true then i think it's sad she puts her career and hobby before her child. even if he is 12, that's still not old enough to be left for a few days

 

[Boasorte]

I agree, I mean I wasn't 12 that long ago, and I stayed hoome alone all day and what not. But come on, 3 days? Especially with boys, they like to do stupid shit! SMH Kandee!

 

[LMD84]

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Originally Posted by MsWestchesterNY I agree, I mean I wasn't 12 that long ago, and I stayed hoome alone all day and what not. But come on, 3 days? Especially with boys, they like to do stupid shit! SMH Kandee!

yeah... my brother was a bugger when he was that age!

always getting into trouble!

 

[vintageroses]

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Originally Posted by Civies You would wonder why someone with 267k subscribers like Blair would screen every comment before letting it appear on their page. "I want to protect my subscribers from foul language" that's all a fake mask IMO. Why screen it if you didn't want certain somethings showing, such as negative comments people may have for them regarding their lies, talent, or even giving out her personal info or linking other watchers to that blogspot about the truth. This is all just too fake for me.

Haha i agree with you, though i do watch their vids at times they seem lovely but i'm sure they are earning heaps! & also i usually DONT WATCH stuff that are given to these youtube gurus. I bought xxx product because of quite a few gurus praising that product & i hated it! ): & it was expensive! Though they might not be paid for advertising but when you get a free item how can you even talk it down? I'm sure they will fluff it up even if they don't like it! Else no one will send them free stuff! HAHA

Oh wellls, i must admit they are REALLY lucky though, NEW YORK fashion show!!

 

[enigmatic]

RE: Kandee

She's gone to court already. She was also charged with truancy. Kandee let her son skip enough school to receive zero credit for a whole semester.

As far as the donations go... She bought two new $700 cameras and a quad bike for her son. I feel bad for whoever donated, the funds obviously didn't go to a lawyer.

Sorry if this offends anyone. It is what it is though.

 

[Boasorte]

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Originally Posted by enigmatic RE: Kandee She's gone to court already. She was also charged with truancy. Kandee let her son skip enough school to receive zero credit for a whole semester. As far as the donations go... She bought two new $700 cameras and a quad bike for her son. I feel bad for whoever donated, the funds obviously didn't go to a lawyer. Sorry if this offends anyone. It is what it is though.

that's a mother flippping shame!

 

[MAC'sMyBF]

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Originally Posted by MsWestchesterNY that's a mother flippping shame!

ha ha indeed. mother flippin...i love it

 

[MxAxC-_ATTACK]

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Originally Posted by MsWestchesterNY you don't need to PRO card to shop at the PRO store. MY job is a couple of blocks away from PRO and I dip in there from time to time And yea the certain PRO colors confuse me too. Does anyone know about Kandee Johnson, speaking of gurus, theres drama surrounding her too. She's facing child endangerment charges for leaving her kid alone while she went to LA. And she put it on her blog, WHO DOES THAT? And she's asking for donations for a lawyer -_-

According to her blog she left her son at home with her mother, while she was in Los Angeles working. Her mom left for like, an hour and her son and his friend lit a cereal box on fire ( typical boys) and after the fire was out they wanted to conceal the evidence so they threw the burnt up ( Not on fire) box over the fence and the neighbor saw it..

The rest of the story is on her blog

http://www.kandeethemakeupartist.blogspot.com/

 

[TheTeenageMuse]

I'm 17 (in 3 days!) so I guess I fit their audience and while I know that I can apply makeup that they feature more artistically I'm still a huge fan. Because:

1.They show a lot of products I'm interested in. OPI polish reviews/mascaras/Benefit it helps to have someone elses opinion before I go buy it, especially someone from my age group.

2.I like their personality and the setup of their vids. Blair's a bit chatty but her skills are better than her big sis IMO. And Elle's funny.

3.They give me an idea of HOW MUCH makeup to wear as a teenager, I can tell that Blair wears some more interesting looks off YT and therefore I'm inclined to value her judgement on eye shapes although I'm not so neutral with looks I tend to go for bright colours etc.

I TOTALLY agree I think there were much better Gurus than them..but hey they appeal to me and four hundred thousand other people so they must be doing something right.

And just for more reference I hate MichellePhan and I think Pixiwoo's skill/artistry is a great complement to Blair and Elle simplicity.
Pixiwoo is who I go to first, if they don't have a vid up I settle for the girls, it's just something to do during my spare time..and I get ideas. So it's not all a loss.

 

[paperfishies]

As a makeup artist this makes me sad. I've watched their videos, they're mediocre at best. No, this isn't me hating and no I'm not jealous. I usually love when a young, talented young lady is given an amazing opportunity.

To me it's about the talent. This is proving to me that the industry is no longer about who has the talent to get to the top. It's now about who is more commercial, who's more bubbly and fake. Who looks better on paper.

It's very disconcerting. I can only hope that these girls walked away with an entire new appreciation for this field. I hope they will dedicate themselves to becoming something more than just mediocre. They've been given an opportunity (and will continue to get more) that hundreds of amazingly talented makeup artists would put their lives on hold for.

Compare these two girls to the Pixiwoo girls. The pixiewoo girls LIVE for this. You can tell where their passion is. Their vids are NOT huge advertisements. They don't drone on and on and on in their vids. You can tell Sam and Nic have a love and a passion for the industry. Sam and Nic were successful before they even began doing youtube vids. You can tell why Sam and Nic are where they are. They are far beyond talented and professional. With the other two girls, not so much.

 

[TheTeenageMuse]

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Originally Posted by paperfishies As a makeup artist this makes me sad. I've watched their videos, they're mediocre at best. No, this isn't me hating and no I'm not jealous. I usually love when a young, talented young lady is given an amazing opportunity. To me it's about the talent. This is proving to me that the industry is no longer about who has the talent to get to the top. It's now about who is more commercial, who's more bubbly and fake. Who looks better on paper. It's very disconcerting. I can only hope that these girls walked away with an entire new appreciation for this field. I hope they will dedicate themselves to becoming something more than just mediocre. They've been given an opportunity (and will continue to get more) that hundreds of amazingly talented makeup artists would put their lives on hold for. Compare these two girls to the Pixiwoo girls. The pixiewoo girls LIVE for this. You can tell where their passion is. Their vids are NOT huge advertisements. They don't drone on and on and on in their vids. You can tell Sam and Nic have a love and a passion for the industry. Sam and Nic were successful before they even began doing youtube vids. You can tell why Sam and Nic are where they are. They are far beyond talented and professional. With the other two girls, not so much.

I think it's also important to recognize that not everyone has the talent and they shouldn't be penalized for doing what they like.
This is a completely irrelevant example but the man who invented Peanuts the comic strip. His illustrations are simple and his dialogue, not of the highest calibre. But he really wanted to pursue it and he did.

I feel myself failing with that comparison. All I'm trying to say is I don't think it's fair to penilaze the girls when they do try. At least you can say that they try. I wouldn't want someone to comment on my 'crappy technique' yeah I know it's crappy but I love makeup and I do the best with what natural skill I have. They shouldn't be punished for getting famous, they were just lucky.