YT Gurus Allthatglitters21 and Juicystar07 at NY Fashion Week

[abbyquack]

Hope this hasn't been posted yet but slate did an interesting little piece on "hauling" and mentions Blair: Why young women are showing off their shopping sprees in online videos called "hauls." - By Marisa Meltzer - Slate Magazine

 

[Flaminbird]

I saw they were just on Good morning America :/

 

[Kragey]

You know, I just have to say that I've experienced some of the same stuff with graduate schools. I am not the absolute smartest of the smarts; my GPA is only a 3.6, and my GRE was average. But all standardized testing aside, I am incredibly passionate and hard-working. Yet one of the schools I really wanted (and later found out wouldn't have fit my personality well anyway, thank GOD) rejected me based on those scores alone. They would rather have someone who is talented, but not passionate. (Believe me, I know several people with higher GPAs and GRE scores than mine who are only going to grad school because they "don't want to enter the real world.")

Maybe Blair and Elle aren't the most talented, but I do believe they have a passion for what they do, and I think that's just great. There are many gurus on YouTube who are 10 times as talented, but who I think are just stuck on themselves and overbearing.

Also, I consider hauls "window shopping" and quite enjoy them. I find it hilarious that so many people claim hauls are "materialistic," considering much of the world is capitalist and thrives on materialism. It's not a nice thing to say, but it's the truth: how many of us would be willing to give up all of our material possessions and live with just the basics, the way many others in this world are content to live (and, given the rampant poverty in parts of the world, would LOVE to live)?

 

[enigmatic]

I saw their GMA interview. It bothers me how they were claiming to be completely honest with their product reviews.

Sunlove paid Elle $4,000 (in cash and products) for her review. Yet she claimed that she bought them with her own money. The same goes for the GHD and Clarisonic that she reviewed awhile back. Elle went on and on about how she saved her money for both... After the FTC went into effect, her disclaimers suddenly said they were sent to her for free. Not to mention, Elle was trying really hard to find out how much partners make before she hit it big.

As far as their names go... Elle personally messaged people, threatening to sue them if they spoke her real name. On top of blocking everyone that even asked her about it. Now suddenly she's confessed over Twitter that her real name is Lisa, like it's nothing. Sorry, what?!

It's a shame that because of things like this, people find it harder to trust guru reviews.

Sure, they're lucky for the opportunities they've been given. But things like that have a lot of people scratching their heads, wondering why these girls are attracting so much attention. I don't think they have a passion for it at all, which is another reason people seem to be bothered. In my opinion, it's always been about money with them.

 

[MxAxC-_ATTACK]

I have seen a few of Elle and Blair's videos, and I have heard of the "controversy" surrounding them... I don't know why everyone is concerned with the name thing, so 'effing what if they use alias's instead of their real names..

A lot of people strive to make Partner on Youtube/Google.. it pays WELL if you have well viewed videos.( which obviously you would in order to get sponsored)

I know first hand how much it pays to just get just one popular video sponsored.. and Its nice, I don't blame anyone for trying to make money on youtube, whether it be beauty "Gurus" or shaycarl style Vlogs.

 

[enigmatic]

I don't doubt the money is good and I also don't see anything wrong with getting paid for being partner. But I don't think lying to get money is right.

 

[MxAxC-_ATTACK]

I dunno, they insist that all of their reviews are honest (Yeah I have watched a few of their videos If its a product I feel I could be interested in) so I either have to believe them, or believe some random Blog* that says otherwise. None of us know the real story.

* who really feels that this is "blog-worthy" anyways? I mean dedicating an entire blog to just how Fake two girls on youtube are? really?

 

[paperfishies]

I guess it all depends on what your definition of "passion" is, as far as seeing these girls as "passionate" goes. Personally I don't find them to be truly passionate. I think they come off as fake.
The pixiwoo girls in my opinion are passionate about what they do and it shows. Not just via their talent but all of the thought that goes into what they do. The studying they've done about trends, showing books they've learned from, and the fact that they were one of the first gurus to say that they are given free products, it's part of being a makeup artist.

There's nothing wrong with being paid to do what you love but IMO, these girls (allthatglitters and Juicystar) are being driven by the free products, the money and the attention. This really hit me when I watched one of their haul videos about clothes, jewlery and a handbag they bought. Their haul videos come off as completely disingenuous when compared to some of the other "gurus" haul videos.
I wrote them off when I saw the video one of them did for that "fat lips, skinny hips" lip gloss. That was one of the most "full of shit" video moments I think I ever witnessed.

 

[Boasorte]

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Originally Posted by MxAxC-_ATTACK I have seen a few of Elle and Blair's videos, and I have heard of the "controversy" surrounding them... I don't know why everyone is concerned with the name thing, so 'effing what if they use alias's instead of their real names.. A lot of people strive to make Partner on Youtube/Google.. it pays WELL if you have well viewed videos.( which obviously you would in order to get sponsored) I know first hand how much it pays to just get just one popular video sponsored.. and Its nice, I don't blame anyone for trying to make money on youtube, whether it be beauty "Gurus" or shaycarl style Vlogs.

I don't think it's more so about the controversy of their names. That's old news. People are more upset about their constant lying, cheating, and rudeness.

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Originally Posted by Kragey You know, I just have to say that I've experienced some of the same stuff with graduate schools. I am not the absolute smartest of the smarts; my GPA is only a 3.6, and my GRE was average. But all standardized testing aside, I am incredibly passionate and hard-working. Yet one of the schools I really wanted (and later found out wouldn't have fit my personality well anyway, thank GOD) rejected me based on those scores alone. They would rather have someone who is talented, but not passionate. (Believe me, I know several people with higher GPAs and GRE scores than mine who are only going to grad school because they "don't want to enter the real world.")

TOTALLY OT BUT:
girl did u fall and bump your head on a physics book? I WOULD KILL for a 3.6. With that being said, I totally understand your pain about the school thing (passion V.GPA) The schools I want to go to are like that, but sometimes, more often than not, they look past the gpa for passion.

 

[Kragey]

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Originally Posted by MsWestchesterNY = TOTALLY OT BUT: girl did u fall and bump your head on a physics book? I WOULD KILL for a 3.6. With that being said, I totally understand your pain about the school thing (passion V.GPA) The schools I want to go to are like that, but sometimes, more often than not, they look past the gpa for passion.

Nah, a literature anthology.

There are plenty of other schools who didn't judge me just because I didn't go to Haaaaavaaaahd and didn't get a 4.0, so I'm over it.

I can't tell whether or not they have passion, but I'm just trying to make a point. At the very least Elle does, or did; she was a no-name when she started out and really just seemed to enjoy it.

 

[Boasorte]

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Originally Posted by Kragey Nah, a literature anthology. There are plenty of other schools who didn't judge me just because I didn't go to Haaaaavaaaahd and didn't get a 4.0, so I'm over it. I can't tell whether or not they have passion, but I'm just trying to make a point. At the very least Elle does, or did; she was a no-name when she started out and really just seemed to enjoy it.

LOL @ haaavaaadd. One of my roommates just graduated from Darthmouth, and as I droned on and on about how I would love to go there (Ivy) She honestly told me it's not really like how people think. She's at a normal job with a ton of loans to pay. She said her employers didn't even favor her because she went there. So screw the schools that judge because of that.

back to topic. I don't doubt whether they have the passion for it. They all do at the start, but once popularity and free goods come in, they change, and it's obvious. Money changes people (for the most part.)

Look at Fafinettex3. I use to like watching her videos to learn shadow placement on Asian eyelids. But, when was the last time Aubrey did a tutorial? All her videos are 'hauls' and 'reviews' of things she gets sent free. LOL what's funny about this is she doesn't even put the disclaimer up until all her subcribers/random ppl comment on it. I've been noticing that.

And LOL and the reporters' reaction on GMA when they said Blair started homeschooling to shop and Youtube

 

[Superkaz]

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Originally Posted by enigmatic RE: Kandee She's gone to court already. She was also charged with truancy. Kandee let her son skip enough school to receive zero credit for a whole semester. As far as the donations go... She bought two new $700 cameras and a quad bike for her son. I feel bad for whoever donated, the funds obviously didn't go to a lawyer. Sorry if this offends anyone. It is what it is though.

Yeah she is annoying to watch now. I loved her at the beginning when she took time to reply to my emails and what not.
Now she has supplied an address so people can send things out to her, like WTH?

But most importantly she should be taking time away from these distractions that made her go unnoticed of her sons behaviour. She plead guilty so the charges of child endangerment would go away. The prosecutor even mentioned that several letters were sent to Kandee about her sons absences.
Her lawyer is making Kandee to be a victim by saying her son took advantage of her mother.
I can see where the donations didnt go to a good lawyer.....

 

[DirtyHarriet]

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Originally Posted by MsWestchesterNY Look at Fafinettex3. I use to like watching her videos to learn shadow placement on Asian eyelids. But, when was the last time Aubrey did a tutorial? All her videos are 'hauls' and 'reviews' of things she gets sent free. LOL what's funny about this is she doesn't even put the disclaimer up until all her subcribers/random ppl comment on it. I've been noticing that.

I've been noticing the same thing about other gurus as well. MakeupbytiffanyD is one example. If I see her post another video toting the greatness of Sigma brushes, I'll vomit! If these brushes are so perfect, then how come other people have problems with shedding, bleeding of bristle color, etc? So many sellouts on YT these days.

 

[MxAxC-_ATTACK]

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Originally Posted by MsWestchesterNY I don't think it's more so about the controversy of their names. That's old news. People are more upset about their constant lying, cheating, and rudeness.

Lies , cheating and rudeness

according to a Gossip blog?

 

[enigmatic]

I'm not in anyway condoning that blog. But they DO have screenshots to back up most of their claims. There are screenshots of emails from the companies she asked for payment from. There are also screenshots of Elles messages threatening to sue her own subscribers.

 

[lara]

What a catty thread.

 

[MxAxC-_ATTACK]

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Originally Posted by enigmatic I'm not in anyway condoning that blog. But they DO have screenshots to back up most of their claims. There are screenshots of emails from the companies she asked for payment from. There are also screenshots of Elles messages threatening to sue her own subscribers.

There is also a "birth certificate" on the internet that states Obama wasn't born in the U.S. .
could be real, probably fake, its up to you to decide.

Just sayin.

Im not a die hard fan or anything, I have seen a few of their videos and they seemed pretty typical of beauty gurus on youtube. I just think its silly to believe things you see and hear on the webernets.

 

[enigmatic]

If the owners of those companies themselves come forth and say that they specifically asked for payments, I'd believe them over a pair of gurus that have a record of lying. Just saying

Either way, I can't hate on them for making bank.

 

[Kragey]

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Originally Posted by lara What a catty thread.

I'm not seeing a lot of cattiness, just people politely disagreeing. I've seen waaaaay cattier threads here on Specktra.

 

[Corvs Queen]

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Originally Posted by lara What a catty thread.

Werd.