About Face (theshespace)

shatteredshards

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Originally Posted by Flaminbird
I too think a lot of her colors that are LE's are repeated later or prior. I notice alot of the colors I got from here look pretty much the same. Ugghh. It's just awful she has gone down the toilet.

That would make sense with my Blueberry Crush Haze and Innate Optimist being the same. Her excuse of blaming one of her employees for dumping the wrong color in the bag seemed weird to me.
 

Flaminbird

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Originally Posted by shatteredshards
That would make sense with my Blueberry Crush Haze and Innate Optimist being the same. Her excuse of blaming one of her employees for dumping the wrong color in the bag seemed weird to me.

I agree! I don't blame any of it on employees. When it comes down to it she should be the ultimate one to answer for any problems. And all this crap about "oh I have no email problems you cant possibly me emailing me" then she turns off her PM'ing on her board due to email problems she says. How about its most likely she's flooded with pm's from upset customers or ass kissers and doesnt want to deal with it? I wish there was something we all could do about her but I dont think there is. She turns a deaf ear onto anything but the smoochers.

I just made a post in her thread and I'm sure she'll delete it faster then she lies

http://heather21.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=4608641

Funny she told me there was no email problem and several people here and people that posted they couldnt get through yet FUNNY she says there was a problem
 

downloadstone

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Well, she sent me $2.00 for the duped pigment (which meant that paypal took their $0.37 cut.) I guess that's better than nothing though.

I still don't know whether or not to ask her about the discrepencies with regards to shipping dates. I honestly don't want to upset her, because I can understand how stressful this must be for her, but I don't like feeling like an idiot for taking what she's promised me at face value.
 

shatteredshards

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Originally Posted by Flaminbird
I just made a post in her thread and I'm sure she'll delete it faster then she lies

Happy March 1st - SHE SPACE CHATTER

Funny she told me there was no email problem and several people here and people that posted they couldnt get through yet FUNNY she says there was a problem


I don't know about the rest of yas, but I see her playing frickin stupid to the issue and her little brownnosers coming to her defense. What a load of bull****!

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Thank you for stepping up and being a spokesperson for 'all' of the unhappy people out there. The odd thing is, to my knowledge, any problems that we have had are being dealt with by communicating directly with the clients. I have absolutely no idea what or who you would be talking about when you refer to somebdoy who hasnt gotten an order in months and has had no communication with me or from me. It would seem to me that something like that going on would warrant a client filing a claim or dispute with pay pal and i would certainly be alerted to it and the client would have either gotten her products or gotten a refund. But what you are saying doesn't make any sense. I have read other posts of yours like this, and though I think I am starting to understand your intentions, I am not really sure what prompts this, but let's look at it this way, and be realistic here; For every hundred orders that go out, even if we are double checking our work, it would stand to reason that mistakes are made, and I don't think I have ever tried to conceal that. Show me a company, regardless of size that runs day after day without an error or two...it doens't happen... But the fact that message boards all over the world are still prompting several dozen new clients a day, as well as those same new clients coming back to order even after a mistake was made, or a wait time was high....well, if we were screwing up that badly, and that often, and my customer service was so lousy, Im pretty sure that not even a $2.00 pigment could bring somebody back if they believe that things were running so poorly. Take your order for example....where we made a mistake...actually two mistakes if I am correct...and it was remedied immediately.....your money was promptly refunded, right? No run around...no unanswered emails.....so I dont really understand what it is that keeps you coming back and posting like this. So, while I generally dont like dealing with posts like yours publicly, (because, as I told you before, I am unable to document communication with a client on a message board like this,) like I said, you have posted like this before, so I can only assume that you want me to respond publicly..... So, if you are going to keep coming back and posting on behalf of all the unhappy people you keep running into, let me give you a piece of advice that might actually serve to help us correct any problems that might be looming out there....have them contact me directly. I won't discuss orders on the board simply because, #1, this is not the place for it, and #2, I need to be able to keep accurate records of all correspondence and i can not do that on a message board as I have mentioned previously.
If there is anything else that you would like to try and point out that I am doing wrong, you might want to consider an email becasue quite frankly, I am not going to keep doing this with you here.
Thanks for your time!
Heather
 

Flaminbird

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She is awful isnt she?? I cant believe she still plays stupid but I guess she isnt playing. LOL! I just posted there again and I'm done after that. I can't believe she would say in that post people to email her and that any customer that had a problem emails her. She says there are no email problems then says there has been one?? WTF? Are these people reading what she says? Its just like a politician. She reeks !

Welp she deleted the entire thread!

http://heather21.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=4612092

"oh how I keep this a happy place....." take the happy pills Heather and ignore the unhappy people
 

downloadstone

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:/ And that response is precisely why I don't feel comfortable trying to contact her through the board.

... okay guys, I'm about to send off a rather long email addressing my problems with her company. Wish me luck.
 

Kragey

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Originally Posted by downloadstone
:/ And that response is precisely why I don't feel comfortable trying to contact her through the board.

... okay guys, I'm about to send off a rather long email addressing my problems with her company. Wish me luck.



Don't feel uncomfortable. She's just a presence on the internet to you, not somebody important in your life, and Hell, she runs a business. Contact her if you're dissatisfied.
 

Flaminbird

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Originally Posted by Kragey
Don't feel uncomfortable. She's just a presence on the internet to you, not somebody important in your life, and Hell, she runs a business. Contact her if you're dissatisfied.

Exactly! She's just someone behind a computer screen but is running a business and I use that term loosely and is making a lot of mistakes at the cost of her customers. You have the right to get what you paid for and fair treatment. Stand up for yourself....she needs to know about the problems since she's in such denial about it. Let us know what she says and if you have to post it on the board. You have every right in the world
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euphrosyne_rose

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Originally Posted by downloadstone
:/ And that response is precisely why I don't feel comfortable trying to contact her through the board.

... okay guys, I'm about to send off a rather long email addressing my problems with her company. Wish me luck.


Let us know how it goes. I have been having issues logging into her message board but I have a feeling any negative post made will get deleted. She already pretty much said as much in that post she made picking on "the one negative person". It's tough to hear when you've screwed up and the truth hurts, but if the board is truly a place for people to chat and talk about their experiences and love of her products, shouldn't the people who haven't had a positive experience be able to voice their comments as well? It'd be one thing if Michelle was posting "Hey you stupid bitch why did you fuck up my order?" but she didn't do that. She just pointed out that it was about time she admitted the fact that she had email issues. Why she couldn't just have admitted that to begin with instead of being in denial about it is just ridiculous b/c if she had acknowledged that to begin with, me and Michelle and yourself and who knows who else wouldn't be half as pissed off. Don't go telling people "oh there's no way I'm not getting your emails" and then later on make a post saying all email issues are fixed. That's just biting yourself in the ass and to think that no one would notice that little comment is
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I don't like the whole approach she has of "yeah, sometimes stuff will fall through the cracks but I don't like it being mentioned so I'm just gonna delete your post b/c I don't want anyone to see it". Just b/c the majority of her clients have had positive experiences doesn't mean that the whole are going to have positive experiences and it's beyond wrong to deny someone who is in the minority on this issue the ability to say what they need to say, especially when she's blocked the ability to PM her personally and she obviously "has email issues". She would rather people email her directly? That's all fine and freakin' dandy when they can actually get through and if they thought she'd actually read it. The only recourse IS to post it on the board.
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Unfortunately, I believe in the end all our comments and emails and posts will count for nothing b/c if it's not something she wants to hear, she's just going to delete it and all the ass kissers on her board won't know half of what is going on with other people. She's going to probably label the few of us who are unhappy and unsatisfied as a group "ganging up" on her and I'm sure her fan club will run to her emotional rescue.
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I hope you are able to get through and tell her what you think since so far Michelle has had no luck getting her to even apologize for her crappy CS and I didn't have much luck either. Let us know what she says if you hear back!
 

euphrosyne_rose

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Since Michelle's last post was deleted for being "negative", I decided to post something as well. I am going to copy and paste here in case it gets deleted.
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Naturally all of the "Team Heather" supporters are posting and patting her on the back for "doing what she's got to do" and that's just total BS. Here's what I said:

I'm going to probably be one lone voice here but I think calling someone a "troll" when you don't even know exactly what they posted (because it was deleted) is unfair. To me, that's "sinking to their level". To immediately take sides before even knowing what both sides were is pretty awful. No, I'm not the person who posted just FYI. I don't believe it's right to condone "negative" behavior at all but I also believe that if it's ok for people on a public board to rave and write about positive experiences, it's only fair for people who have had the opposite reaction to have their say as well, albeit without any ugly language.

I too have had very positive experiences concerning this site but I also had a negative experience as well recently and unfortunately didn't feel as if I could share it b/c I knew my post would be deleted. I'm curious to see if this one will be as well. I will speak up and say that I for one don't find it very encouraging to know that anything I say that isn't a rave might be deleted. I spoke with the person who had posted originally and yes, she was venting some frustration on this board but she was also doing it in part b/c she was told that her emails were not getting through and that there were no email problems and then the comment was made that all the "email problems" were fixed. I can imagine I'd be pretty indignant as well. That's just my point of view, though. Like Heather alluded to in her first post in this thread...you can't make everyone happy and naturally I don't expect to make anybody happy with this post but I at least wanted to be able to have my say just like everyone else.

I don't think I was "negative" or ugly or abusive at all. I merely wanted to have my point heard as well since everyone else is allowed to have their opinion. Freedom of speech and all that jazz, ya know?
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Almost black.

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I received my order today and thank God, I received what I ordered.
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But, the thing that bugs me is the fact she lied about my package being sent more than 2 weeks ago. In fact, it was sent a eek ago which is a big difference. I really don't see the point since I will see on the package when it has been shipped so I'm not sure where is she getting with that?

Anyway, this is my 1st and last order.
 

shatteredshards

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Being shipped one or two days later is one thing, but I think any longer than that is completely unacceptable. Of course, if someone asks you if their package has shipped yet, there is absolutely no reason why you should be telling them it has when it hasn't. If you aren't capable of keeping track of orders, then make changes to your system.

Ugh, I don't know how people can keep supporting her! Her customer service has obviously completely gone to heck.
 
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Originally Posted by AngelaMH
Still haven't received the correct item from my order.
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I still havent recieved the three orders I placed at the end of Jan/Beg of Feb.

It SAYS it was shipped yesterday, but lets see if I actually get it since I only got TWO tracking numbers. Maybe she combined the one. Who knows, I know that no matter how good the colors turn out to be that I'll not be ordering from her again.
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downloadstone

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Hey guys, I got a reply to my email. I'm actually a little surprised that Heather responded, since I thought she'd either claim she never got my email, or would just ignore it or something. She was very sweet about everything in her reply to me, and explained why she kept deleting posts on the board. She also gave me an explanation about the inconsistencies in her shipping (mixups with staff) which I was happy to accept, but after seeing that this is also happening to other people, not so much. I have one last order waiting to arrive, so once it gets here, that'll be it for About Face cosmetics for me.
 
Do I did recieve two of my packages, but not the third (and biggest) one. If I don't recieve it by the end of the week, I'll be filing a paypal claim with her. Because I made the order not even 24 hours after the first two and it's lost to the winds, it seems.

As for the product itself? I'm VERY disappointed. My BE shadows go on brighter than these. I have to foil the shiz out of them and tack-ify my eyelids to get anything to stick.

Good thing I only paid 2.50 for them.
 

downloadstone

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Oh for heaven's sake. I received my last order but all of my jars were only filled half way. This is fucking ridiculous.
 

shatteredshards

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Originally Posted by downloadstone
Oh for heaven's sake. I received my last order but all of my jars were only filled half way. This is fucking ridiculous.

What the heck?!
 

Flaminbird

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Good lord!! Everyone is having such awful issues with her but remember she said I was the only one with any issues. I think it's awful you guys havent received your order and of those that did have half full jars! I had that happen to me before and that was back in November. It took her two months to get me the full jar sent to me!

Also I noticed when pressing her pigments this week that she isnt really giving the amount she says as she's changed jars! I was noticing some would fill the pan with leftovers and others just about filled the pan. I then noticed the jars were different. The new jars are indented on the bottom and scoop shaped inside so you're not getting as much as before. I took a photo to show. I think we're getting about half the amount as before
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. Notice not only is the one on the right indented and scooped but it's also slightly shorter.

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