Forum Pet Peeves

[aziajs]

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Originally Posted by lara It's my pet peeve when people get butthurt over being given thread recommendations or thread guidance. If you post a very, very common question/thread, a moderator or an on-the-ball regular Specktrite will post you a list of other threads that already exist and contain all the answers to your question that you'll ever need and possibly nicely remind you about the search function. Throwing your tiara on the ground and getting butthurt over that is just ridiculous.

I've been here for 3 years and have seen a lot of duplicate posts and can see the frustration with seeing 101 posts about the same thing. Perhaps that explains the tone sometimes when people are instructed to use the search function. Sometimes when I read the comments by the mods or admins I'm like, "damn." Then the poster is like, "I'm so sorry", "I didn't know", "I didn't mean any harm." LOL. I feel bad for them sometimes. Because of this there are a lot of posts now that start off with, "I'm sorry if this has been discussed. I did a search and I couldn't find anything."

Actually, that leads me to an issue with the search function. There are certain words that are too short or too common and will not be picked up during the search. I was trying to get some recs for 3D Gold glitter. I wanted to avoid the, "please utilize the search function in the future" comment so I plugged my phrase into the search box but "3D" was too short so I ended up with 500 search results with every post that mentioned, "glitter" and "gold". I know there are people who use it and have spoken about it but without plugging through all those threads I wasn't going to find it.

EDIT: I was just thinking. It would be great if all new members had to watch a short tutorial on how to use the search function. I don't know how feasible that is but I think a lot of people just don't know how to properly utilize the feature.

 

[MiCHiE]

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Originally Posted by aziajs 4. The FOTD thanks baffles me but I can't make heads or tails of it. There are some people who post some really nice pictures and they get like 5 thanks and 10 comments. Then someone else posts an average picture at best and they get like 40 thanks and 50 comments. I guess it's so subjective that there's not too much I can say other than I don't get it. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I totally agree. I guess everyone has their own reasons/functions for the 'Thanks' button on a FOTD post. I know, for me, when a user makes good use of a shadow that I own or I've thought about buying/using, I thank them. I've gotten so many ideas from mzreyes posts. If not for her, I wouldn't look like the person a lot of people have come to know.

 

[Janice]

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Originally Posted by aziajs Sometimes when I read the comments by the mods or admins I'm like, "damn." Then the poster is like, "I'm so sorry", "I didn't know", "I didn't mean any harm." LOL. I feel bad for them sometimes. Because of this there are a lot of posts now that start off with, "I'm sorry if this has been discussed. I did a search and I couldn't find anything."

Yeah, I admit to feeling really bad about this, but the pressure is on us to keep a tidy forum. The reason for the tidyness is to help with keeping information condensed and easily obtainable. Still feel bad about how it's evolved though. If things work out, the search function will be improved along with many other site improvements.

 

[SparklingWaves]

In regard to the changing the color of text, centering, etc., I did do that on a recent post. I did that to correlate with the color of topic that was discussed in that particular sentence. I felt it may be of help to the reader to be a memory jogger.

I am truly sorry that this was very difficult to read. I will certainly correct this issue promptly. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. If any of my other posts have things that are difficult to read, ect., please do not hesitate to contact me directly by PM. Thank you.

UPDATE: I made the changes in that post. I agree with everyone. It is easier on the eyes. Thanks again.

 

[coachkitten]

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Originally Posted by jasminbarley A few have been mentioned already: - people who show lots of "thanked" but no "thanks" at all, what gives? I've noticed some of these people who have responded to a post saying that it was useful but yet have not thanked that poster. - thanked posts that don't actually provide any useful information or support - just makes it look like people are just thanking their 'friends'. I also notice that certain members tend to get thanked no matter what they post. - lots of "you look gorgeous" in FOTD threads where the person's skills aren't really up to scratch (I'm a bit in the middle with this one as I realise that many of the FOTD threads are really confidence-building and sometimes ego-stroking support mechanisms for people to develop their makeup skills and it's actually great to witness someone taking their skills up a notch and showing some improvement.)

I agree with a lot of what you said JasmineBarley. I am guilty of thanking people that are my "friends" a lot but I also spread the love around. I really like the thanks button and I most likely use it too often. I am thankful for peoples contributions on here and I want to show them that I am.

I am also guilty of saying that people "look gorgeous" in their FOTD threads. Mostly because I do or I will compliment people on their skills.

My biggest pet peeve is people who don't use the "thanks" button at all (which I know many other people have said). That drives me crazy.

 

[nunu]

Jasminbarley: I agree with some of your posts but i have to add that i don't see how saying *you look gorgeous* in a post can come accros as a pet peeve, we should as you say encourage members to improve their skills and also give them some confidence in themselves especially beginners.

 

[User93]

I have no problem at all with "you look gorgeous" thing, i find it really nice about specktra, cause i bet in some other forums people would diss you a lot if you had not that good skills, trying to point out the flaws... But here people really encourage others to do more, in general, those who do a very professional make-up are the minority here, i do admire their work definitely, yet i wanna thank other people for posting theirs, and yes, if i do think the lady looks gorgeous, or cute, or i like some feature, i will go say it! Im not lack on that, plus we all need some feedback sometimes.. And if my comment could make someone's day, i'd be only happy about it. I'm not lack on positive comments, so if i think so, i say so.

I also use "thanks" if someone asked what i was going to ask, or amused me, or i just find something very sweet. Also i hit the thanks when i ask about my personal things, ask for an advise etc, cause no matter what people say i wanna thank them for reading all what i wrote and paying attention to me.

Oh, and one more thing - we said already about people with zero thanks and lots of thanked, but also what bugs me is people with lots of "thanked" but incredibly little "thanks" in comparision. Just IMO, but it makes it look like the person is so lack on this "thanks", that would think 5 times before giving it, and will chose only super special posts, like "ok, you all give me some advises but i only like this one and that one, look at me im so picky". Freaks me out.

 

[Hilly]

^^ you go girl! I totally agree with the you look gorgeous thing. Maybe it's all I can think of to say at times, but I really mean it when I say it

 

[Shimmer]

I think that, with the amount of snark out on the internet, anyone who posts an FOTD deserves a little pick me up, whether it's in the form of 'thanks', rep, or a comment.

I wish that more people could openly discuss and say "I wore this today, here's how it looked, what would have made it better?"
"Oh well, it would maybe have looked better if your liner had been a bit/more/less/thicker/thinner/winged/whatever and if you add contour here and here...maybe that'll help?"
or
"The shape isn't quite what your eyes need, IMO, maybe try shaping it like ____ next time?"
It's not mean to have someone say those things, it's honest criticism, and I wish the forums in general (not just here) could handle honest, positive but necessary critique.

 

[user79]

I totally agree with Shimmer, I actually really appreciate when people say something critical about my FOTDs, because it helps me to improve, or maybe makes me notice something I didn't before, etc. Unless it's just nitpicking at miniature details, like the liner being not 100% straight or something...but positive criticism is always appreciated on my end.

But I know some people get sensitive to it, especially new posters, but whenever I give critique to a look, it's really coming from the angle that I hope it will be helpful for the person to improve their technique.

 

[jasminbarley]

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Originally Posted by nunu Jasminbarley: I agree with some of your posts but i have to add that i don't see how saying *you look gorgeous* in a post can come accros as a pet peeve, we should as you say encourage members to improve their skills and also give them some confidence in themselves especially beginners.

I did say I was in the middle with this one. It's a pet peeve because whilst I think that everyone deserves some encouragement, my personal opinion is some of the "you look gorgeous" FOTDs are average at best and just posting "you look gorgeous" might inspire confidence but sometimes IMHO some constructive criticism might be more helpful - see the examples that Shimmer gave.

And re the average FOTDs, as the other poster quoted after me wrote, I guess "beauty really is in the eye of the beholder."

 

[nunu]

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Originally Posted by Alibi I have no problem at all with "you look gorgeous" thing, i find it really nice about specktra, cause i bet in some other forums people would diss you a lot if you had not that good skills, trying to point out the flaws... But here people really encourage others to do more, in general, those who do a very professional make-up are the minority here, i do admire their work definitely, yet i wanna thank other people for posting theirs, and yes, if i do think the lady looks gorgeous, or cute, or i like some feature, i will go say it! Im not lack on that, plus we all need some feedback sometimes.. And if my comment could make someone's day, i'd be only happy about it. I'm not lack on positive comments, so if i think so, i say so.

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Originally Posted by Shimmer I think that, with the amount of snark out on the internet, anyone who posts an FOTD deserves a little pick me up, whether it's in the form of 'thanks', rep, or a comment.

This is exactly what i was trying to say in my post you ladies have worded it better than me. We all read that thread in the chatter thread how some girls were making fun of some ladies here on Specktra. This is not what we do in this forum, in this forum we encourage these ladies and say that they look gorgeous because they do look gorgeous! People out there are vile and they would say anything to make someone's life miserable.

 

[nunu]

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Originally Posted by jasminbarley some constructive criticism might be more helpful - see the examples that Shimmer gave. And re the average FOTDs, as the other poster quoted after me wrote, I guess "beauty really is in the eye of the beholder."

That is true, i agree beauty is in the eyes of the beholder

But some people although they say constructive criticism is welcome they actually get really sensitive and defensive about it. Hehe which i find wierd because they asked for it and said that it's "welcome"

 

[jasminbarley]

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Originally Posted by nunu That is true, i agree beauty is in the eyes of the beholder But some people although they say constructive criticism is welcome they actually get really sensitive and defensive about it. Hehe which i find wierd because they asked for it and said that it's "welcome"

Yeah, I agree with the sensitivity comments that you and others have made, nunu. That's why I'm so in the middle with this one. I do understand that Specktra is meant to be a supportive community first and foremost and improving makeup skills is an added bonus. But part of me thinks that it would be great if there was more open discussion as Shimmer suggested, where people could accept constructive criticism, especially when they asked for it in the first place, as you mentioned!

 

[frocher]

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Originally Posted by nunu This is exactly what i was trying to say in my post you ladies have worded it better than me. We all read that thread in the chatter thread how some girls were making fun of some ladies here on Specktra. This is not what we do in this forum, in this forum we encourage these ladies and say that they look gorgeous because they do look gorgeous! People out there are vile and they would say anything to make someone's life miserable.

I agree, while constructive criticism is great for improving skills, I think it can go overboard. I recall a tutorial a while back, where everyone gave the same criticisms over and over again. I think it hurt her feelings and she didn't post another picture/tut again. I would rather err on the side of caution when it comes to someone's appearance. Besides, I honestly believe this forum is full of beautiful and talented men and women.

 

[MAC_Whore]

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Originally Posted by frocher I agree, while constructive criticism is great for improving skills, I think it can go overboard. I recall a tutorial a while back, where everyone gave the same criticisms over and over again. I think it hurt her feelings and she didn't post another picture/tut again. I would rather err on the side of caution when it comes to someone's appearance. Besides, I honestly believe this forum is full of beautiful and talented men and women.

That's unfortunate. Makes me kinda sad.

I think we can all use that as an example of why it is good to read the rest of the thread before posting. No need to say something again and again and again. And again. Beating a dead horse syndrome.

 

[frocher]

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Originally Posted by MAC_Whore That's unfortunate. Make me kinda sad. I think we can all use that as an example of why it is good to read the rest of the thread before posting. No need to say something again and again and again. And again. Beating a dead horse syndrome.

It saddens me as well. I think she didn't get to see all the positives of the forum because of one bad experience.

 

[Beauty Mark]

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Originally Posted by frocher I agree, while constructive criticism is great for improving skills, I think it can go overboard. I recall a tutorial a while back, where everyone gave the same criticisms over and over again. I think it hurt her feelings and she didn't post another picture/tut again. I would rather err on the side of caution when it comes to someone's appearance. Besides, I honestly believe this forum is full of beautiful and talented men and women.

I think that while it's great many people want to help (I assume that everyone was nice), I think it's not necessarily for 20 people to make the same point. A few, certainly, but I think it gets tiresome if everyone says the same thing.

The key to constructive criticism is start positive, end positive and sandwich the negatives between positives. Rarely have I seen or heard anything that doesn't have something good going for it

 

[Brittni]

Having to sugarcoat everything.

Example... Today I posted in an E.L.F. thread about the $1.00 deal. I got called "bitchy" and attacked because I didn't sugarcoat my reply. I wasn't at all being bitchy and I truly believe people perceive things differently over the internet. I simply said to check the facts (because it's really not that hard, kind of goes w/same recommendation threads etc. that there are bundles of lol) and that it IS a good deal but just sick of seeing the chain letter. It got taken the completely wrong way which is sad and another peeve, but not my fault and I don't take it to heart that I was called "bitchy" because I wasn't when I typed the post

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So basically what I'm trying to say is it's a peeve when things are misconstrued!

ON A HAPPIER NOTE...

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Originally Posted by frocher Besides, I honestly believe this forum is full of beautiful and talented men and women.

ITA! Inside AND outside -- double hitters lol

 

[purrtykitty]

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Originally Posted by Brittni Having to sugarcoat everything. Example... Today I posted in an E.L.F. thread about the $1.00 deal. I got called "bitchy" and attacked because I didn't sugarcoat my reply. I wasn't at all being bitchy and I truly believe people perceive things differently over the internet. I simply said to check the facts (because it's really not that hard, kind of goes w/same recommendation threads etc. that there are bundles of lol) and that it IS a good deal but just sick of seeing the chain letter. It got taken the completely wrong way which is sad and another peeve, but not my fault and I don't take it to heart that I was called "bitchy" because I wasn't when I typed the post . So basically what I'm trying to say is it's a peeve when things are misconstrued!

Well then I'm glad I didn't say anything there, because I totally was going to post for a search to be done and reference the other thread(s) that existed about E.L.F.! It really sucks that the messenger got shot just because you were trying to be helpful to the poster and the mods.