Lying to get a PRO card

[NicksWifey]

I try not to point fingers, but I just thought this was totally wrong.
A woman I know, who is a total MAC devotee, told me she had gotten approved for the PRO card. I thought that was awesome, but then I realized she's not a makeup artist, cosmetologist or ANYTHING even remotely related to that. She told me that she had made up a fake letter of reccomendation and that she had included a fake business card. Then MAC drafted the money out of her account a few weeks after she sent in her application and the "fake goods" and she got an email saying she had been approved and the PRO card was on its way.

I think that's just wrong for someone to do that's not really an "insider", know what I mean? There are so many people that are licensed professionals, cosmetologists, whatever the stipulations may be for you to get a PRO card that actually do the work and bust their ass. I don't think it's right for some housewife who's husband is tired of her spending anywhere from $100-500 a month on MAC to do something shady like that to get the PRO discount. It just pisses me off to all the people out there who have PRO cards that are actually in the industry.

Anyone else hear tell of this before?

 

[MACATTAK]

The sad truth is there are tons of dishonest people out there. I know someone who is extremely dishonest in her everyday life & it seems like it just gets her ahead. Oh, and of course these people are always bragging about the wrong they do. Is there any way to turn her in???

I thought they were pretty strict about abusing Pro cards??

 

[brokenxbeauty]

I haven't heard of anyone doing that but I can't say that I'm surprised. It bothers me that people do this, lying in general is just stupid to me. Hey, I wish I could get a PRO card but I don't have a license, I'm not a professional (hoping to get one after high school, and then maybe I can get a PRO card!) and I would never "cheat the system" like that.
Well, it's on her concious (I'm not sure if I spelled that right?) I guess, although I know some people don't feel bad about this kind of stuff...

 

[Lizzie]

I thought they were strict about pro cards too. But come to think of it, there's not really a way for them to check...

That really sucks because I know people who actually do makeup and can't get a pro card.

 

[NicksWifey]

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Originally Posted by MACATTAK The sad truth is there are tons of dishonest people out there. I know someone who is extremely dishonest in her everyday life & it seems like it just gets her ahead. Oh, and of course these people are always bragging about the wrong they do. Is there any way to turn her in??? I thought they were pretty strict about abusing Pro cards??

As much as I would love to snitch on her, I don't think I could, as I'm the type of person who would rather let karma get the person back. I have read the application on the internet a few times and even printed it out so I could be familiar with it. I don't know if they even checked out her so called references or what, but she said she got the email of approval.

She was like "I had to do it, you know, I could really use the discount." We all could, bitch! And to top it off, what I think is funny is I don't think you can use it online and our nearest MAC store is about an hour away and she does all of her ordering online haha. But I think you can use it by calling the PRO #.

 

[MACATTAK]

I'm not sure how I feel about karma. The person I had mentioned before, well her life seems to get better and better.

 

[clwkerric]

That's pretty sneakey... Karma is def a bitch!

 

[NicksWifey]

MACATTAK, I totally understand where you are coming from.

Do y'all think it would be bad if I called and ratted on her? I'm not trying to be a tattle-tale, but honestly, it's not freaking fair, especially since a poster above mentioned she knows makeup artists that can't get a PRO card. She was blabbing it to everyone at work and I tried to act like I was uninterested but I still listened anyway.

 

[glam8babe]

that is very unfair.. i would love the discount too but i wouldn't even bother trying, it just wouldnt seem right.
and im sure everyone else on here would LOVE the discount but there's just some rude people out there who do anything to get what they want

 

[gigiopolis]

I know it's not fair, but I don't think you should rat on her. It doesn't sound like you're very good friends with her anyway, but I don't think it's your business to teach her a lesson. If somehow she finds out, you'd end up offending her, and creating enemies wouldn't be so great, even if you don't like her so much as a friend. Also, like you said, what goes around, comes around. I think it'll bite her in the ass sooner or later.

...and if it doesn't (since, in real life, a lot of good things happen to bad people), then that means that she can live her life being dishonest and cheating people and still feel fine about it - and for that, we should feel sorry for her, and not resentful.

 

[TDoll]

Thats total bs! Pisses me off even more that she's bragging about it. Like you said, people actually work for that discount. It's definitely not fair for someone who isn't in the industry that's simply buying makeup for herself and her own enjoyment is getting the discount and benefits of the pro card. As far as ratting her out, I dunno. Part of me is wanting to tell you to call and tell on her so she can't take advantage of the system. However, I always believe that people get what they give...what goes around comes around. She's cheating the system and she's a liar. Karma's a bitch.

 

[TDoll]

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Originally Posted by MACATTAK I'm not sure how I feel about karma. The person I had mentioned before, well her life seems to get better and better.

But you know, she's probably unhappy on the inside and her life may not be as rosy as it seems. And if she's such a bitch, she's probably on her way to hell anyway...lol. I feel bad for saying that, but whatever.

 

[OfficerJenny]

I agree you shouldn't lie if you're not in the makeup artistry/showbiz business area thing, but...

I'm sixteen, I can't charge people for makeup, legally, but I can still get letters of recommendation from people I have done makeup for, but I don't have a business card or anything, so basically I would have to make a fake one (which i've considered doing, but changed my mind cause i'm lazy) in order to had 2 proofs of business.

That being said, I don't think you should rat her out even though it isn't fair that she got one by lying :c

 

[NicksWifey]

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Originally Posted by OfficerJenny I agree you shouldn't lie if you're not in the makeup artistry/showbiz business area thing, but... I'm sixteen, I can't charge people for makeup, legally, but I can still get letters of recommendation from people I have done makeup for, but I don't have a business card or anything, so basically I would have to make a fake one (which i've considered doing, but changed my mind cause i'm lazy) in order to had 2 proofs of business. That being said, I don't think you should rat her out even though it isn't fair that she got one by lying :c

There is nothing wrong with what you are doing, it sounds like you just freelance makeup?

But this chick doesn't do makeup, except for the times she and her sister experiment on each other and that's about it. Honestly, I wouldn't want her touching me because her makeup is nothing to get excited over. It's probably a good thing she really isn't a makeup artist.

 

[abbyquack]

It is irking when people will stoop to any level to get what they want, but I don't think it's anyone's problem but the individual's. They will get what they deserve in the end, even if everything seems okay at the present. Of course it's easier said than done to just ignore them, but I wouldn't worry about what she does.

 

[OfficerJenny]

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Originally Posted by NicksWifey There is nothing wrong with what you are doing, it sounds like you just freelance makeup? But this chick doesn't do makeup, except for the times she and her sister experiment on each other and that's about it. Honestly, I wouldn't want her touching me because her makeup is nothing to get excited over. It's probably a good thing she really isn't a makeup artist.

haha yea if she's no good at makeup stay awayyy XD

but ya i freelance, for free.

 

[coachkitten]

That is too bad that she is abusing the system but to each their own. I would love to get a MAC discount as well. I can't believe that they actually gave her one. Karma is a bitch and it will come back around.

 

[SMMY]

Personally, I like to help karma along myself. Fraud is fraud, whether its big ticket items like stocks and bonds or simply makeup. I also don't like to pay more so that someone else can skim an unearned (aka illegitimate) discount for them self. This woman is obviously bilking the system, so why would anyone give two cents about what happens to her when MAC finds out? Would they feel the same way if she was cheating on taxes or embezzling funds?

If it was someone I was close to, I'd give them the option to voluntarily come clean to the company they were defrauding, letting them know that if they didn't, I would. If I wasn't close to them and they were a slimy piece of work, I'd have zero problem telling MAC about it without the courtesy option of letting them do it themselves.

 

[clwkerric]

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Originally Posted by NicksWifey Do y'all think it would be bad if I called and ratted on her? I'm not trying to be a tattle-tale, but honestly, it's not freaking fair, especially since a poster above mentioned she knows makeup artists that can't get a PRO card. She was blabbing it to everyone at work and I tried to act like I was uninterested but I still listened anyway.

I wouldn't blame you for turning her in. I understand it may not be anyones business but that is just really wrong. It's kind of on the same lines as stealing. Well, it is on the same lines! It's lying and cheating. I feel there is nothing wrong with letting the company know when someone is stealing from them. I wouldn't blame you. It sounds like she needs a smack in the face!

 

[Brittni]

Without involving my personal opinion of whether or not I feel you should report her, I'll say this much:

On the MAC PRO application it specifically says: "ALL IDENTIFICATION WILL BE DESTROYED AFTER PROCESSING, AND WILL NOT BE RETURNED TO YOU."

So theoretically, if this is true, then they will have no way to look back on what you claim to be fake information; therefore, I don't think anything will be done about it -- Unless they require her to re-send information.