Lying to get a PRO card

[fafinette21]

Yea I think it might be not worth your effort to complain about her since it was just a conversation that can't easily be verified.
I can't believe that she was bragging about it though.

 

[SMMY]

^I don't know. I found out several years ago that someone was defrauding a makeup company and notified them with her name, address and the information that showed she was essentially stealing from them. They blacklisted her at all their locations. She could only buy if she pays cash and can't return anything anymore, because her name is in their system permanently. I have zero guilt about it. She had stolen from the company and even from members of the cosmetic community she was a member of. I really loved helping karma along in that case.

 

[AlliSwan]

Wow, that's pretty low. I've done some freelance work (mostly for friends or as a trade, so I have no pay stub or anything) and have done a few photoshoots, and when I was considering applying, I was like enhhh that's kind of stretching it, I'll leave it for the real pros. But I sadly have to agree, I wouldn't rat her out. I want to say GO FOR IT, but let's just hope it comes back around to bite her.

 

[Divinity]

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Originally Posted by SMMY Personally, I like to help karma along myself. Fraud is fraud, whether its big ticket items like stocks and bonds or simply makeup. I also don't like to pay more so that someone else can skim an unearned (aka illegitimate) discount for them self. This woman is obviously bilking the system, so why would anyone give two cents about what happens to her when MAC finds out? Would they feel the same way if she was cheating on taxes or embezzling funds? If it was someone I was close to, I'd give them the option to voluntarily come clean to the company they were defrauding, letting them know that if they didn't, I would. If I wasn't close to them and they were a slimy piece of work, I'd have zero problem telling MAC about it without the courtesy option of letting them do it themselves.

I couldn't agree more and honestly I would feel like poo for not speaking up to MAC about her - I'd feel like I was wrong for NOT saying what I knew to be true.

 

[frocher]

This is just horrible. If you can't afford everything you want, join the club, that's most of us. It's called living within your means. Those discounts are for people who work w/i the makeup industry, and the cost of fraud is passed along to us. The depths some people will allow themselves to sink, and over makeup! Don't get me wrong, I love makeup, but it isn't worth selling your soul over. It's not as if she needs discount lipstick and foundation to help sustain herself.

 

[fafinette21]

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Originally Posted by SMMY ^I don't know. I found out several years ago that someone was defrauding a makeup company and notified them with her name, address and the information that showed she was essentially stealing from them. They blacklisted her at all their locations. She could only buy if she pays cash and can't return anything anymore, because her name is in their system permanently. I have zero guilt about it. She had stolen from the company and even from members of the cosmetic community she was a member of. I really loved helping karma along in that case.

Yea if she had documentation or something like you did I would suggest it. But if you don't and all you have is a conversation you've had isn't it hard for them to do anything?

I know someone on here was caught abusing their PRO card privaleges and I think someone here reported them and they got their card taken away and are never allowed to get one again.
I just got a PRO card and I'm taking it so seriously, I'd never violete their terms just for my own gain.

 

[purrtykitty]

I say you drop MAC a line about this scammer. MAC doesn't look kindly upon people who abuse the PRO discount. It's not fair that the rest of us should have to subsidize the cost of scammers like this. Everyone of us here would love that discount, but bottom line is, it's reserved for the professionals and she isn't one.

 

[GreekChick]

MAC is super cheap anyway! Wth is wrong with her? You want me to report her? I'll do it.

 

[MissVanessa]

As much as this situation isn't a great one, I personally don't think you should meddle in the moral affairs of someone else's actions unless they directly affect you. She'll get what's coming to her eventually.

 

[Beauty Mark]

Things like these are upsetting, because companies have to change policy and probably will make it harder for others or may even eventually take away the privilege.

I would be tempted to report her. Honestly, theft does affect us all.

 

[SMMY]

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Originally Posted by MissVanessa As much as this situation isn't a great one, I personally don't think you should meddle in the moral affairs of someone else's actions unless they directly affect you. She'll get what's coming to her eventually.

Isn't this analogous to watching someone break into someone else's car and not reporting it because it "doesn't affect you directly"? I do think in the long run, fraud does affect us all directly. It drives up the costs of cosmetics for us consumers and will make it more difficult in the future for people who are qualified for a Pro discount to establish that they are indeed Pros, if MAC feels that the Pro discount program has too many abusers.

 

[glamdoll]

If anyone knows of this type of fraudulent activity you can always report them.

At the store we have list of "Do not sell to" list, even if they want to pay in cash, they simply cannot purchase from MAC. They have to write to corporate a letter of intent, then IF they get approved, the can NOT return anything.

just my 2 pennies lol

 

[GreekChick]

Another thing that I find upsetting about your story is the fact that she's getting a discount while certain MAC artists who are working directly for the company don't get access to a a card. I speak of freelancers and on-call artists.

 

[meanjeanster]

WTF why did she do that? if she's spending hundreds of dollars of makeup at a time then she can obviously afford it! She doesn't deserve a PRO card. PRO cards are for PROS because they need A LOT of makeup to WORK and get their JOBS done hence they need to save when they can because they need to buy a lot more. Bleh, it leaves a bad taste in your mouth because she's cheating a good company who already have decently priced products and it's going to end up making REAL PROS have an even more difficult time getting makeup.

I personally wouldn't be shocked if MAC irradicated the PRO program all together or made it really really really hard to get a pro card. I wouldn't blame them if they did. Most cosmetics companies DON'T have a program like that. It's a PRIVILEGE not a right.

I'd say report her but...I kinda think maybe she should get caught on her own and if she doesn't get caught, Karma will get her...If you report her, it might be just one of many other similar complaints that makes MAC decide to shut down the whole program completely.

idk?

 

[jardinaires]

i know a girl who did this. she gave one of our friends extensions and dyed her hair, and got the girl to write a "letter of recommendation", also including some other fake documentation which was really just some little card thing she keeps to give people interested in getting their hair done. this girl is not even really that talented, she has never completed school for cosmetology, in fact she went for one semester and ended up dropping out. i don't know HOW she got approved, i am deeply annoyed at this girl because she runs around with all this makeup she doesn't really deserve to get a discount on, playing herself up to be this huge MAC addict, and here i am working a full time job, and pay full price for something that just makes me happy and support myself otherwise. i think lying to get the pro card is one of the worst things you can do in the world of makeup, because you're cheating a makeup company trying to help out up-and-coming makeup artists and other cosmetologists. if you cheat the company out of that money for the discount, it's sort of like taking a little something away from people like me who only want to have one thing at the end of the day that makes them excited to go to a mall, or gives them a reason to take pride in their appearance. a little pot of eye shadow or a tube of lipstick might seem like such a silly thing to get excited over, but i'm sure a lot of people here can agree with me when i say that makeup might be only skin deep, but creative expression through it is way more. MAC cosmetics supports this, MAC pro is meant to support this, and cheating to get that support to me seems to go against everything the company and stands for.

 

[Corvs Queen]

I'll say this and you take it as you want.
"The more your stir a pile of shit, the more it stinks."
As others have said, KARMA man. Karma.

 

[sweetbabyblue]

that's despicable. Stealing affects everyone, we're all paying extra to cover cost of theft, damage caused by other people. She deserves to get caught!

 

[NicksWifey]

What annoys me about this girl is that it's just up her alley to do something like this. She always calls and complains to MAC about stuff (she has like three different accounts, WTF under different names), like she had bad customer service, didn't like this, didn't like that, and always gets freebies.
I remember there was some face cream, Olay Regenerist or something that she really liked but it was sorta pricey for a drugstore brand. Well anyway, she called the company and pretended to be someone else, about how she tried a sample and she was really poor, blah blah, a whole story of shit. You know what they did? Sent her a free fucking voucher for the product at any store, I was shocked. She really is a scum sucking piece of shit.

 

[frocher]

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Originally Posted by NicksWifey What annoys me about this girl is that it's just up her alley to do something like this. She always calls and complains to MAC about stuff (she has like three different accounts, WTF under different names), like she had bad customer service, didn't like this, didn't like that, and always gets freebies. I remember there was some face cream, Olay Regenerist or something that she really liked but it was sorta pricey for a drugstore brand. Well anyway, she called the company and pretended to be someone else, about how she tried a sample and she was really poor, blah blah, a whole story of shit. You know what they did? Sent her a free fucking voucher for the product at any store, I was shocked. She really is a scum sucking piece of shit.

So this pro-card scam is indicative of how she lives her life. It will all catch up to her eventually. Honestly, I am not trying to tell you how to live your life, but I would distance myself from her. She probably isn't the best influence and she might start doing dishonest things to you.

 

[NicksWifey]

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Originally Posted by frocher So this pro-card scam is indicative of how she lives her life. It will all catch up to her eventually. Honestly, I am not trying to tell you how to live your life, but I would distance myself from her. She probably isn't the best influence and she might start doing dishonest things to you.

Believe me, she and I aren't really friends anymore! I don't consider her a friend or a foe really, we just do not talk that much anymore and when we work together, I try to stay out of her path because she is a pain in the ass to work with.
She had the nerve to say "I can get you a PRO card too, I'll fill everything out for you!" UHHHH, NO THANKS BITCH!!

Honestly, if I ever were to get a PRO card, it's because I would maybe go to school to learn how to be a makeup artist or actually work for a cosmetic company doing that type of work, something that I know I would've earned, not just because I'm a selfish bitch.
People are so low.