Lying to get a PRO card
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TraceyyGold
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I've never heard about that before but I'm pretty sure it has happened before. It is unfair to the people who are qualified for a MAC pro card.
A lot of people can't afford MAC, I know someone who gives up food, clothing and shelter just to buy MAC.
People like that disappoint me.
A lot of people can't afford MAC, I know someone who gives up food, clothing and shelter just to buy MAC.
People like that disappoint me.
Mac_Cherry
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MAc is not the cosmetic company that gives a discount....
http://www.bodyography.com/pages/artisan.htm
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Julie Hewett fax resume 323.850.6766
Scott Barnes at The Beauty Closet 30% http://www.thebeautycloset.com/index.htm
Paula Dorf fax resume, union card, biz card or promo card 212.582.0035
Benefit Cosmetics fax info to 415.781.3930
Make Up For Ever 212.941.9337 also at Frends 888) 7-Frends
Sue Devitt 888.870.1150
Vincent Longo 877.LONGO99
Stila 323.913.9443 ext. 204 (Desiree Tordecilla)
Shiseido 212.805.2303 (Nicole Cardillo)
http://www.shuuemura-usa.com/Content/Cu … rvice.aspx email to get info
For more information on the Professional Percentage Program and the Professional Editorial Credit Program and the application process, please contact the public relations department at [email protected]
The Origins Makeup Artist Discount Card entitles you to a 40% discount on Origins Skin Care and Color products and a 20% discount on Bath & Body and Hair Care products at all Origins Retail Stores
Please include tearsheets, business card and proof of certification. Return application to: ORIGINS Global Communications 767 Fifth Avenue, 42nd Floor New York, NY 10153 Tel: (212) 572-6636 Fax: (212) 572-4292
To apply for a Bobbi Brown Makeup Artist Discount Program Card you must apply in person at Barney's NYC (660 Madison Avenue and 61st Street) at the Bobbi Brown counter and Naime's, in Los Angeles (818.655.9933). You will be asked to provide a photo and proof of work. Please do not contact the Barney's counter via telephone, mail or online as they are unable to reply.
Thank you for your interest in Urban Decay! We do have a discount available on line for make up artist. Please fax your resume and credentials to us at 949-631-5986 for review. We will review your information and get back with you shortly.
Thank you for your interest in Paula Dorf Cosmetics, Inc. Please fax a resume, union card, business card, or promo card to us at 212.582.0035. To place an order, call us at 1-888-4paulad.
http://www.bodyography.com/pages/artisan.htm
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
Julie Hewett fax resume 323.850.6766
Scott Barnes at The Beauty Closet 30% http://www.thebeautycloset.com/index.htm
Paula Dorf fax resume, union card, biz card or promo card 212.582.0035
Benefit Cosmetics fax info to 415.781.3930
Make Up For Ever 212.941.9337 also at Frends 888) 7-Frends
Sue Devitt 888.870.1150
Vincent Longo 877.LONGO99
Stila 323.913.9443 ext. 204 (Desiree Tordecilla)
Shiseido 212.805.2303 (Nicole Cardillo)
http://www.shuuemura-usa.com/Content/Cu … rvice.aspx email to get info
For more information on the Professional Percentage Program and the Professional Editorial Credit Program and the application process, please contact the public relations department at [email protected]
The Origins Makeup Artist Discount Card entitles you to a 40% discount on Origins Skin Care and Color products and a 20% discount on Bath & Body and Hair Care products at all Origins Retail Stores
Please include tearsheets, business card and proof of certification. Return application to: ORIGINS Global Communications 767 Fifth Avenue, 42nd Floor New York, NY 10153 Tel: (212) 572-6636 Fax: (212) 572-4292
To apply for a Bobbi Brown Makeup Artist Discount Program Card you must apply in person at Barney's NYC (660 Madison Avenue and 61st Street) at the Bobbi Brown counter and Naime's, in Los Angeles (818.655.9933). You will be asked to provide a photo and proof of work. Please do not contact the Barney's counter via telephone, mail or online as they are unable to reply.
Thank you for your interest in Urban Decay! We do have a discount available on line for make up artist. Please fax your resume and credentials to us at 949-631-5986 for review. We will review your information and get back with you shortly.
Thank you for your interest in Paula Dorf Cosmetics, Inc. Please fax a resume, union card, business card, or promo card to us at 212.582.0035. To place an order, call us at 1-888-4paulad.
TRASHdecor
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Yes, its not honest. but whats the big deal? its not like having her get a pro card stop anyone from getting theirs...
My mom is a nail tech and shes getting a pro card, pretty much for me...
thats "lying" and "cheating" too?..
My mom is a nail tech and shes getting a pro card, pretty much for me...
thats "lying" and "cheating" too?..
NicksWifey
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To me, it is. Sorry
Does your mom do makeup too? If so, I don't see anything wrong with having a Pro card. But if she's getting one just for you to use, I think it's wrong. Just my opinion.
Originally Posted by TRASHdecor
Yes, its not honest. but whats the big deal? its not like having her get a pro card stop anyone from getting theirs... My mom is a nail tech and shes getting a pro card, pretty much for me... thats "lying" and "cheating" too?.. |
To me, it is. Sorry
Does your mom do makeup too? If so, I don't see anything wrong with having a Pro card. But if she's getting one just for you to use, I think it's wrong. Just my opinion.
Mac_Cherry
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I don't know if this is correct, but hair stylist and models don't have to do professional make up?... it's for their personal use?? Make up artists get more of a discount because they actual do professional photo shoots, etc.... It's too many gray areas... I wouldn"t be too concerned?? It's wrong, but KARMA will bite her in the butt... I would just voice my opinion and let it go.....
TRASHdecor
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My mom is a nail tech. Nail technicians get 30% discount.
| Originally Posted by NicksWifey
To me, it is. Sorry
Does your mom do makeup too? If so, I don't see anything wrong with having a Pro card. But if she's getting one just for you to use, I think it's wrong. Just my opinion. |
My mom is a nail tech. Nail technicians get 30% discount.
MiCHiE
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Correct. I think what is being said, though, is your mom sharing/using/applying the discount with others is not allowed. I don't think it is, but your life = your business. I just wouldn't divulge that much info about something that may not be allowed, IMO.
| Originally Posted by TRASHdecor
My mom is a nail tech. Nail technicians get 30% discount. |
Correct. I think what is being said, though, is your mom sharing/using/applying the discount with others is not allowed. I don't think it is, but your life = your business. I just wouldn't divulge that much info about something that may not be allowed, IMO.
Mac_Cherry
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They are able to purchase all MAC products, not just nail polish??? Why is that?? They should only be able to purchase nail polish, but maybe MAC don't care??? I know you can't resale the products
MiCHiE
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They may not care.....or they may see the financial benefit of a nail tech who reaches just as many people in the beauty industry as anyone else. I can vouch for that. I wear makeup to work everyday, like most people in the beauty industry. I have many clients who ask what I'm wearing, etc...Just because nail techs/cosmetologists/estheticians/stylists may not be applying makeup does not mean they don't have a hand in the promotion and sale of it. So, maybe that's why MAC sees reason to grant a discount to these people for personal use.
| Originally Posted by Mac_Cherry
They are able to purchase all MAC products, not just nail polish??? Why is that?? They should only be able to purchase nail polish, but maybe MAC don't care??? I know you can't resale the products |
They may not care.....or they may see the financial benefit of a nail tech who reaches just as many people in the beauty industry as anyone else. I can vouch for that. I wear makeup to work everyday, like most people in the beauty industry. I have many clients who ask what I'm wearing, etc...Just because nail techs/cosmetologists/estheticians/stylists may not be applying makeup does not mean they don't have a hand in the promotion and sale of it. So, maybe that's why MAC sees reason to grant a discount to these people for personal use.
Shimmer
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Oh. My. God. Did you really just go there? Seriously? Wow.
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I don't know. How much laundry could (using your example) 4 people generate when they're in school, playing sports, going to work, and eating bon bons?
How much could there POSSIBLY be to do between scheduling dentist appointments, handling homework, handling teacher communications, remembering various errands, making sure the dogs are fed and watered, the yard is taken care of, yoga/spin/running/whatever exercise class, music lessons, and regular housekeeping?
It's not and it's never been about waiting on anyone hand and foot, but if a man's going to pay the bills, a woman doing what's reasonable to keep the house running smoothly is more than fair. And, that can be quite the demanding job.
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LAZY?
Oh ye who judge a runner without ever wearing her shoes.
Lazy and inferior? Really? It HAS to be 'cuz she juss jellis' and couldn't possibly be that anyone would have a real and viable point of view. Like...at all, could it? Nope. It's a TOTAL guilt trip on the part of SAHMs.
Christ.
What a complete load of crap.
| Originally Posted by hotmodelchiq
I say forward those emails to MAC lol and let her ass have it and you guys are so QUICK to try and not hurt someones feelings... I dont sugar coat anything and I say unless you have more than 2 kids then being a stay @ home mom is a BREEZE eating bon bons and watching stories ALL DAY. |
Oh. My. God. Did you really just go there? Seriously? Wow.
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| I mean your @ home ALL DAY how many times can you do laundry and mop and dust... It is important that we empower our children ESPECIALLY our daughters and show them you dont have to wait on some man and you can have a nice balance of being independent and being dependent... |
I don't know. How much laundry could (using your example) 4 people generate when they're in school, playing sports, going to work, and eating bon bons?
How much could there POSSIBLY be to do between scheduling dentist appointments, handling homework, handling teacher communications, remembering various errands, making sure the dogs are fed and watered, the yard is taken care of, yoga/spin/running/whatever exercise class, music lessons, and regular housekeeping?
It's not and it's never been about waiting on anyone hand and foot, but if a man's going to pay the bills, a woman doing what's reasonable to keep the house running smoothly is more than fair. And, that can be quite the demanding job.
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| I could do this with my hands tied behind my back and its really just lazy or some sort of inferior complex when a woman tries to shove the fact that she's a stay @ home mom down the throats of working and successful women trying to make them feel guilty for their career decisions and thats all I have to say about that. and this woman has NO kids... So I guess if someone committed murder and some of you knew there would be a murderer on the loose... I swear some of you have really taken this stop snitching thing to another level.. |
LAZY?
Oh ye who judge a runner without ever wearing her shoes.
Lazy and inferior? Really? It HAS to be 'cuz she juss jellis' and couldn't possibly be that anyone would have a real and viable point of view. Like...at all, could it? Nope. It's a TOTAL guilt trip on the part of SAHMs.
Christ.
What a complete load of crap.
tabou82
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This entire post is stupid! If you are going to report her, then do it! If not, then don't! Obviously, her actions are not okay with you morally and it doesn't appear that you are friends, so why is it important to have the "support" of Spectra behind you when you are utterly disgusted by her actions and wants to report her? Again, just do it if that's what you want to do. Personally, I wouldn't care because I don't live my life according to what other people do and have nor how they gain those possessions. I just try to focus on me being the best person I can be. In this case, I feel that MAC dropped the ball and should have a more thorough policy regarding PROCard Approvals. It's their product and namesake so they should jump through hurdles to make sure that the integrity of the PROCard Membership is maintained. But that's just me....
hotmodelchiq
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Seeing that "50% of all marriages in the America end in divorce." what happens when your husband leaves you... Do you go apply for a housekeeping or nanny position since thats what your good at. I know single mothers who have 2 jobs and STILL handle all the responsibilities of a SAHM. I'm sure being a SAHM has its relative challenges. but when its comes to other careers... its like cake... and FYI I have been in a position where I had to raise my siblings with no help I finished college and I held down a full time job... So yeah while I KNOW there are challenges its not that hard to do... just make sure you have a plan "B" just in case
Sario
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Eh, pretty slimy if you ask me, but I'm really not surprised, some people do bizarre things. She'd have to buy a LOT of makeup though to really do the pro card justice. I've thought about getting one because I do technical theater work for my local community theater which includes makeup in addition to lighting, sound, set, runner, sort of a jack of all trades thing and it would be nice to have the discount, but honestly I don't feel like I buy enough to justify it. That and I'd have to dig around for old programs and things and don't have a business card so paperwork would be a hassle. *shrug* She'll definitely get her own though, that sort of thing always comes back to people in the end. Kind of weird if you ask me that she'd go through the hassle of basically forgery though. People can be such strange creatures sometimes
NicksWifey
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I'm sorry if you find this thread stupid, so do me a favor and DON'T read it!
Honestly, this thread is getting out of hand. I came here to ask people's opinions and I'm done with it. I came to ask people on Specktra, many of whom are professional makeup artists, not just for MAC but other companies and other people who are just as passionate about makeup as Iam. So excuse me if that's a crime, asking people's opinions from Specktra, a forum that I really enjoy. I'm not posting on this thread anymore.
| Originally Posted by tabou82
This entire post is stupid! If you are going to report her, then do it! If not, then don't! Obviously, her actions are not okay with you morally and it doesn't appear that you are friends, so why is it important to have the "support" of Spectra behind you when you are utterly disgusted by her actions and wants to report her? Again, just do it if that's what you want to do. Personally, I wouldn't care because I don't live my life according to what other people do and have nor how they gain those possessions. I just try to focus on me being the best person I can be. In this case, I feel that MAC dropped the ball and should have a more thorough policy regarding PROCard Approvals. It's their product and namesake so they should jump through hurdles to make sure that the integrity of the PROCard Membership is maintained. But that's just me.... |
I'm sorry if you find this thread stupid, so do me a favor and DON'T read it!
Honestly, this thread is getting out of hand. I came here to ask people's opinions and I'm done with it. I came to ask people on Specktra, many of whom are professional makeup artists, not just for MAC but other companies and other people who are just as passionate about makeup as Iam. So excuse me if that's a crime, asking people's opinions from Specktra, a forum that I really enjoy. I'm not posting on this thread anymore.
Mac_Cherry
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I am totally fine with anyone in the beauty industry getting the discounts. But according to the post they feel only artist should get the discount! I was just trying to say maybe MAC don't care as long as their products are being promoted.... They are still making money... I know several hairstylist that use the discount for pure personal use. Im sure MAC makes sells off of them.. They refer their customers.. Maybe, this is a marketing scheme. I have other discounts with other companys, but we dont pay a fee...
| Originally Posted by ♥MiCHiE♥
They may not care.....or they may see the financial benefit of a nail tech who reaches just as many people in the beauty industry as anyone else. I can vouch for that. I wear makeup to work everyday, like most people in the beauty industry. I have many clients who ask what I'm wearing, etc...Just because nail techs/cosmetologists/estheticians/stylists may not be applying makeup does not mean they don't have a hand in the promotion and sale of it. So, maybe that's why MAC sees reason to grant a discount to these people for personal use. |
I am totally fine with anyone in the beauty industry getting the discounts. But according to the post they feel only artist should get the discount! I was just trying to say maybe MAC don't care as long as their products are being promoted.... They are still making money... I know several hairstylist that use the discount for pure personal use. Im sure MAC makes sells off of them.. They refer their customers.. Maybe, this is a marketing scheme. I have other discounts with other companys, but we dont pay a fee...
friend_of_MAC
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I can understand why it would piss someone off who has worked their ass off to get that pro card legally. Everyone has their own opinion about that, you know? wow, this thread has some tention huh? well, I guess I better not say anything further....kidding.
ms.marymac
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Just trying to lighten the mood, folks.
| Originally Posted by Shimmer
Oh. My. God. Did you really just go there? Seriously? Wow. I don't know. How much laundry could (using your example) 4 people generate when they're in school, playing sports, going to work, and eating bon bons? How much could there POSSIBLY be to do between scheduling dentist appointments, handling homework, handling teacher communications, remembering various errands, making sure the dogs are fed and watered, the yard is taken care of, yoga/spin/running/whatever exercise class, music lessons, and regular housekeeping? It's not and it's never been about waiting on anyone hand and foot, but if a man's going to pay the bills, a woman doing what's reasonable to keep the house running smoothly is more than fair. And, that can be quite the demanding job. LAZY? Oh ye who judge a runner without ever wearing her shoes. Lazy and inferior? Really? It HAS to be 'cuz she juss jellis' and couldn't possibly be that anyone would have a real and viable point of view. Like...at all, could it? Nope. It's a TOTAL guilt trip on the part of SAHMs. Christ. What a complete load of crap. |
Just trying to lighten the mood, folks.
glamdoll
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Yep, that is lying and cheating. SHE is the nail tech, not you. The discount is suppose to be for her, and just FYI if you are gonna go into a store, she needs to be there cus they check I.D and the payment card use needs to match her name, even for orders online.
If you get caught priviledge is revoked permanently, so if she ever truly needed to use the discount it will not be available to her under any circumstance.
It is a big deal to those of us who are pros, who need to use the discount, and some people who really have credentials and for a reason or another dont get approved. you think its not a big deal, but it is.
| Originally Posted by TRASHdecor
Yes, its not honest. but whats the big deal? its not like having her get a pro card stop anyone from getting theirs... My mom is a nail tech and shes getting a pro card, pretty much for me... thats "lying" and "cheating" too?.. |
Yep, that is lying and cheating. SHE is the nail tech, not you. The discount is suppose to be for her, and just FYI if you are gonna go into a store, she needs to be there cus they check I.D and the payment card use needs to match her name, even for orders online.
If you get caught priviledge is revoked permanently, so if she ever truly needed to use the discount it will not be available to her under any circumstance.
It is a big deal to those of us who are pros, who need to use the discount, and some people who really have credentials and for a reason or another dont get approved. you think its not a big deal, but it is.
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