Lying to get a PRO card

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tiramisu

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Originally Posted by NicksWifey
MACATTAK, I totally understand where you are coming from.

Do y'all think it would be bad if I called and ratted on her? I'm not trying to be a tattle-tale, but honestly, it's not freaking fair, especially since a poster above mentioned she knows makeup artists that can't get a PRO card. She was blabbing it to everyone at work and I tried to act like I was uninterested but I still listened anyway.


Well, if anything, at least she won't know who ratted her out since she obviously has bragged about it to several ppl!!
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purrtykitty

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Originally Posted by goldspice
wait....whats all the hype about?...the cost price of manufacturing any makeup items is in the range of pennies!...plastic containers r no more then 25 cents each to manufacture..and the eyeshadows alone are even cheaper to concoct! Why do u think almost all designer makeup have a full refund/exchange policy implemented. Reason is because they are losing next to nothing in the first place...your essentially paying for the label which is just a HYPE tht the consumer world buys into. I am in the business of makeup..and believe me..these high end companies WANT u to beleive tht there products r more then there REALLY worth. Personally..there's no point in reporting anyone, if anything the high end companies r abusing the sheep mentality tht the consumers buy into.

But that so isn't the point. Just because MAC makes money on their products (which, duh...if they didn't, they'd have been out of business in a heartbeat) doesn't make it right for people like that girl to cheat the system and get a discount that is meant for professionals. Companies factor in a certain percentage to cover losses due to theft and the rest of us consumers are the ones shouldering that burden of dishonesty. This girl thinks she's smart enough to play the system, but that doesn't mean she should get away with it. She's obviously not smart enough to keep her mouth shut and she deserves to be turned in.
 

CantAffordMAC

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Originally Posted by florabundance
I'm glad this was issue was brought up. My hairstylist and her co-workers all signed up for the MAC Pro card, because they clearly fit the criteria. They were each granted one. However, the discounted products they purchase are entirely for personal use, not "Pro" use. My question is, why should hairstylists be granted this privelege when none of the products are in keeping with their profession. The other criterias (model, aesthetician, MUA, etc) I can understand, but to me, it's the same as being say a housewife...the discount benefits only yourself, not your profession???

I have a coworker at my salon who is a makeup artist and a hairstylist. She did makeup a long time ago, and still does it on occasion, but I'd consider her both....even though shes basically a hairstylist. I think she deserves it...we are in the beauty industry, a Cosmetologist isnt JUST a hairstylist, its someone who specializes in various areas of beauty....(did that sound bitchy? i wasnt trying to
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I am a licensed cosmetologist and havent started doing hair yet, but I want to be a makeup artist, as my career. Im glad MAC gives us a discount too.

That girl sucks. She sounds awful, lying just to get what she wants. Itll come back to her. I dunno....id leave it alone and I wouldnt call MAC but thats just me. she will get what she deserves
 

glamdoll

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Originally Posted by goldspice
wait....whats all the hype about?...the cost price of manufacturing any makeup items is in the range of pennies!...plastic containers r no more then 25 cents each to manufacture..and the eyeshadows alone are even cheaper to concoct! Why do u think almost all designer makeup have a full refund/exchange policy implemented. Reason is because they are losing next to nothing in the first place...your essentially paying for the label which is just a HYPE tht the consumer world buys into. I am in the business of makeup..and believe me..these high end companies WANT u to beleive tht there products r more then there REALLY worth. Personally..there's no point in reporting anyone, if anything the high end companies r abusing the sheep mentality tht the consumers buy into.

You being in the business of makeup, should know the cost of not just natural resources, the labor, also the relation of supply and demand.

While a products total cost for manufacturing could be well under a dollar, what about the labor? do you think people volunteer to make it, obviously someone is getting paid, the marketing, distributing, the managers, just employees all around are being paid with the money of the item sold, the resources cost money too. Its not like they get free material to make it.

The reason they have a good return policy is because they want customers to return for repeat business. You cannot say they aren't losing anything because they are, that eyeshadow that was return cost to make and its money they no longer have to pay for more production, though you may think "oh whats an eyeshadow or lipgloss" the numbers add up. I wish the US had policies like in other countries and not return makeup if it was used unless you had a bad reaction, people here just abuse it.

They dont sell you the hype, you can tell the difference from a MAC, MUFE, NARS eyeshadow than that of covergirl, or other drugstore brands. Just like you can tell the difference in durability and quality in a designer like COACH purse, than a target purse. Hype is always great for business, but usually that is very customer created too.

I am not attacking you or anyone, but I do want it to be known that in general ANY business does lose money. Just because you know the manufacturing cost is low for a single item you have to step back and look at the bigger picture.

Trust me in this receding economy, every penny counts.

So this girl having a Pro card, when she in fact is not a pro does affect, not just the company but the consumer. Prices will keep going up even more because of people like her that cheat the system. I know there is alot of talk about karma getting back to her, but what about OUR karma? for knowing something wrong is being done and just being by standers. I am not saying "OMG go rat her out" but if you speak of karma look at it both ways.

Sadly there are a lot of people who do this.
 

fafinette21

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This was a late reply to something but this is from the sheet that MAC sends out with all the PRO cards. I'm paraphrasing by the way, I don't remember it word for word.

"All items purchased with the PRO card discount are for the members personal and professional use only."

I know someone said the PRO card shouldn't be used for people's personal use, but MAC is obviously okaying it for people who are artists as well.
 

M.A.C. head.

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I feel the need to side bar for a second:

I've now seen several RUDE comments made about this woman being a "house wife", and then one about her being a "bored little secretary/housewife".

Let me tell all of you who DON'T seem to know: being a housewife and a mother is NOT easy. So please, think about that before the next time you make a comment that refers to women who stay in the home being somehow inferior to women who don't.
 

NicksWifey

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Originally Posted by M.A.C. head.
I feel the need to side bar for a second:

I've now seen several RUDE comments made about this woman being a "house wife", and then one about her being a "bored little secretary/housewife".

Let me tell all of you who DON'T seem to know: being a housewife and a mother is NOT easy. So please, think about that before the next time you make a comment that refers to women who stay in the home being somehow inferior to women who don't.


Ok I assume this is directed at me, I have made those comments. Firstly, she is a housewife and does not have children. This is not a general attack/statement against housewifes who do raise children, as I realize it is a full time job. It was also not to made to make women who do stay at home inferior to those who work.
If you knew the woman, you would know where I'm coming from. I did not mean to be rude either, so sorry if you took it that way. Everyone has different opinions and I'm not on this chick's side.
 

hotmodelchiq

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you could probably report her for fraud... I wanted to get a procard but instead I got a part time job @ a CCO to help ease the MAC spending. that is really unfair and I think you should tell and if you still dont want to then PM me and I WILL. lol
 

Socialite

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Wow I can't believe MAC would allow that to happen. My MUA said they are really strict ans always check references. And if mac tries to do something about it, it may affect those mua who are really just starting out and dont have a huge client selection
 

fafinette21

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I don't think the house wife comment was meant to insinuate that house wives are inferior, but rather an indicator of the fact that she has no need for a PRO card.
 

NicksWifey

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Originally Posted by fafinette21
I don't think the house wife comment was meant to insinuate that house wives are inferior, but rather an indicator of the fact that she has no need for a PRO card.

Thank you!
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I didn't mean my comment to come across this way. It would be different if she was a stay at home wife and actually did makeup too for a living, I wouldn't have a problem with it.
 

NicksWifey

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Oook she sent me an email last night @ work and I checked it this morning. Here is a snippet about the PRO card and something else she wants to sign up for...

"I am also going to apply for the NARS Percentage Program. That shit is so expensive, I would have to get a discount in order to place an order of more than one or two things.
I got my Pro card last week! I placed an order the other night and had quite a few items in my cart and it was only at $63. I'm so happy I was able to get the card, even if I went about it in the wrong way!"

Oook so she knows she went about it in the wrong way? Does she think that knowing her behavior is bad justifies the fact that she's abusing the system? And now she wants to scam NARS, WTF! I will see her at work (I work my 2nd job with her) in several hours. I'm going to tell her how I feel about the PRO card and if she has a problem, I'll shove that card down her throat!
 

hotmodelchiq

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I say forward those emails to MAC lol and let her ass have it and you guys are so QUICK to try and not hurt someones feelings... I dont sugar coat anything and I say unless you have more than 2 kids then being a stay @ home mom is a BREEZE eating bon bons and watching stories ALL DAY. I mean your @ home ALL DAY how many times can you do laundry and mop and dust... It is important that we empower our children ESPECIALLY our daughters and show them you dont have to wait on some man and you can have a nice balance of being independent and being dependent... I could do this with my hands tied behind my back and its really just lazy or some sort of inferior complex when a woman tries to shove the fact that she's a stay @ home mom down the throats of working and successful women trying to make them feel guilty for their career decisions and thats all I have to say about that. and this woman has NO kids... So I guess if someone committed murder and some of you knew there would be a murderer on the loose... I swear some of you have really taken this stop snitching thing to another level..
 

MiCHiE

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Originally Posted by fafinette21
I didn't even know NARS had a percentage program.

Just about every line has a Professional Discount Program. MAC is very lenient with theirs, offering it to basically the whole beauty industry. Other companies like NARS and MUFE cater to MUAs specifically, requiring items like Tear Sheets, etc.
 

M.A.C. head.

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Originally Posted by NicksWifey
Ok I assume this is directed at me, I have made those comments. Firstly, she is a housewife and does not have children. This is not a general attack/statement against housewifes who do raise children, as I realize it is a full time job. It was also not to made to make women who do stay at home inferior to those who work.
If you knew the woman, you would know where I'm coming from. I did not mean to be rude either, so sorry if you took it that way. Everyone has different opinions and I'm not on this chick's side.


I believe you hon, it just came across differently.

No harm, no foul.
 
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