MAC and parents??

[HustleRose]

it's weird, when i was sixteen and i was first getting into makeup and shopping at sephora my parents wouldn't buy me anything! i had a part time job and that's how i paid for most of my stuff.

fast forward ten years and i'll be out with my dad in a mall and i'll stop by the mac store and he'll throw me a 50$ bill and tell me to treat myself... how times have changed...

 

[Fataliya]

I've only worn MAC for like 3 months, maybe.

I'm just jealous that kids that are still in school get MAC, lol.

 

[Eire3]

When I was a teen my mother bought me some expensive make up items but there were a reason: i always have had very sensitive, acne-prone skin and she always said to me that for skin I had to use very good products. She usually was buying to me a good foundation, a good moisturizer and a good face soap/make-up remover. I had to use them all up before buying a new one of course, no collecting and no high end mascaras, lippies and e/s. If I wanted a new eye shadow I usually waited until the end of the week and if some pocket money stayed untouched in my wallet i bought some cheap make-up to have fun...but not MAC...If I wanted some high end makeup i had to wait until my birthday or christmas...just once I remember, she bought to me a MAC cream blush I wanted as a present when we were doing shopping in the city.
But in Italy is very different: teens don't usually have part-time works because there are no part-time works for teens here...we usually start to work part-time when we go to University (19-20 years old) because we're old enough to babysit, tutor students or work as maids in restaurants. I know it's crazy but we receive pocket money until we're 25 if necessary and that's because many University students of some faculties (like science ones) don't have time to work or because they don't find a part-time work...
But i'm sure that if i lived in the US, where there are opportunities to work p/t for teens my mom would have said to me to buy my own make-up and extras with my money, and i think this is right.

I think you shouldn't pretend your parents to buy MAC for you, unless is something you really need (e.g. concealer and foundation if you have a bad skin and this is a problem for you)...wait for christmas and birthdays, save your pocket money or if you're old enough find yourself a part time job..this will teach you also that when you're spending your own money you experience how fast they disappear from your wallet (or credit card) and maybe you'll understand your parents better.

 

[abbyquack]

This may not help you out much, but you may just need to be patient til you're older. There were so many things I wanted at age 13-14: I couldn't wait to move out on my own, to have a bf, to have a job, etc. The reality is you're young, and you will have plenty of time to indulge in expensive makeup, so just enjoy your age and the fact that you don't have to pay bills etc, and the day will come when you will be able to buy all the MAC you can afford. Take up the other great advice here: babysit, save your $, and even offer to do extra chores for your parents if they'll bargain w/ you, but otherwise there are great brands for cheap out there (ELF, Nyx) that will definitely suit your needs for now.

 

[Curly1908]

I think the only department store brand makeup product a parent is "obligated" to buy a teen is foundation. Explore drugstore e/s, lippies, and blushes before going to MAC, Bobbi Brown, Sephora stuff, etc.

 

[Shimmer]

"Obligated"?
Yeah. no.

 

[M.A.C. head.]

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Originally Posted by TISH1127 ^^ Thats what I am saying....I would get a job in a heartbeat...Parents are not obligated to buy MAC....they are obligated to buy, food, shelter, clothing, books etc....And saying they spend money on this and that and it makes them happy...They are earning their own money which allows them to spend xyz on their hobbies. My two step sons wanted all the most expensive shoes etc...They were made to get a job and I would pay half...But I refused to buy $200 shoes every time a new pair of Jordan's came out... I would have been lucky to get NYX ...and as a teenager I would have been happy as heck to get it if I was not contributing.

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Originally Posted by Lapis My son likes video games, if he wants new games he has to get great grades, when he says he has to have it, I give him the mother look and ask him if it'll help him live, if he told dh ohh but you buy xyz cause it makes you happy, his dad would be like yup and I went to school 7 years and work 50 hours a week to afford it, want to trade places? we are cold hearted parents here, holidays he gets spoilt but outside of bday, xmas etc he knows better to ask unless he brings a report with plenty A's and B's

Mkay, let's clear this up.

The issue with "what makes us happy" has nothing to do with mommy and daddy being obligated to spend money on anything. It has to do with a parent essentially putting their child down and saying that something they love doesn't matter, simply because it's a luxury. It's rude for someone to do things that aren't "necessary" and then turn around to their child and say that something they love isn't necessary and is a waste of time.

 

[Marjolaine]

In my childhood, I mean when I was around my 15s, we weren't allowed to use make up at all, so we never demanded for make up, I guess my generation was kinda stupid in this sense The only thing the stores sell us would be a clear mascara lol.. Times change really fast, now I see little kids with panda eyes in school, how strange..

I never asked for make up from my parents, but when I was 18 and was going abroad for college, mom bought me my first expensive make up set (Lancome it was, I can never forget lol) and asked a MA to teach me how to do decent make up and since then I always paid my make up bills myself.

 

[Nicala]

I know what you mean. I'm 15 right now and my mom won't let me have a job. I normally save money from my birthday or christmas. Sometimes when we go to outlets my brother gives me and my mom $ to spend. We spend it at the CCO ahah. I got my mom into Mac. I don't really have much MAC, I usually buy it when I see its cheaper (CCO, costco). Then for Christmas, my dad took me to the MAC store and let me spend $75 in total. It was nice. I do track so I can't really have a job during season because it would interfere (in really into sports) but after season is over, I plan to get a p/t job if I can have good grades. I also want to get a summer job because I want to go to Wi if I have the money

. So, I gotta get working on that haha.

 

[lara]

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Originally Posted by YSLaddict4 I don't understand why they won't get it for me if they're spending the same amount of money but making me happier!

Because outside of shelter, clothing, food and love, your parents don't owe you anything.

A book will help you grow as a person, lipgloss will not.

 

[lara]

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Originally Posted by Curly1908 I think the only department store brand makeup product a parent is "obligated" to buy a teen is foundation.

Foundation is a luxury. No one is ever obligated to buy luxuries.

 

[TISH1124]

I as a parent am not obligated to buy anything that is not essential to living...that includes...food, shelter, clothing, medical needs and educational items...Makeup does not fall in that category......It is not essential teenagers wear makeup...and that includes foundation...When it becomes an essential item...they need to have a essential job to pay for it.
With proper skin care...a teenager should not even need foundation.....If they are covering a problem..maybe a dermatologist may be a better solution. Wants and needs are two different things.

 

[coachkitten]

I don't remember anyone wearing expensive cosmetics when I was in High School. That was only 9 years ago too. In general I can't believe the things that young people feel entitled to like expensive cosmetics, handbags, shoes, clothes, cars, etc. I would have never asked my parents for those things. All of the extra things that I wanted in High School were because I worked for them.

I also didn't even know what MAC, Louis Vuitton, Chanel, Coach, and other high end brands were until college. I just wish kids could be kids and not worry about the material things that they do or don't have. There are more important things in life.

 

[TISH1124]

^^^ Exactly the main reason most schools require uniforms...too much pressure to keep up with the Jones'

 

[Curly1908]

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Originally Posted by lara Foundation is a luxury. No one is ever obligated to buy luxuries.

That's your opinion. Plus I put "obligated" in quotation marks so that people would know I don't equate it with food, water, and shelter...but I guess people didn't understand that.

Foundation was not a luxury for me as a teen. It was a "necessity". Would I die without it? No, but you wouldn't die if nobody loved you either. And most people still regard love as a "necessity".

Why does Locks of Love exist? Because providing wigs for children who suffer from medical conditions (as acne is also a medical condition) such as cancer and alopecia is regarded as a "necessity" even though we wouldn't put weaves/wigs in the average child's hair. Would they die without it? No, but would you make your kid that's undergoing chemo go to school bald?

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Originally Posted by Shimmer "Obligated"? Yeah. no.

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Originally Posted by TISH1127 With proper skin care...a teenager should not even need foundation.....If they are covering a problem..maybe a dermatologist may be a better solution. Wants and needs are two different things.

Again, I guess people didn't understand the meaning of quotation marks around a word.

Well, the $100s of dollars in bills from the dermatologist, pharmacist, and skincare aisle that was spent on my behalf as a teen (and I still had horrible skin) contradict that statement.

Skin issues are known to cause clinical depression. Teen already suffer from terrible self-esteem and teasing. Acne & scars just add onto that.

I have very sensitive skin and had to use quality, department store foundations (as recommended by my derm) that wouldn't further exacerbate my skin issues to cover the red marks & post-acne hyperpigmentation issues that often plague WOC while I underwent treatments.

I guess I'm blessed that I had a sensitive, caring mother who saw this as a necessity for me. I'd do the same for my child.

 

[TISH1124]

Every parent has a right to their own opinion on what is considered a necessity and how they raise thier children..I was personally offering my opinion...was not to insinuate what you should or should not do wth your child....that is your choice to make...just as what I would or would not do is mine...Nothing personal honestly....I am saying Makeup in any form is not a necessity for children in my household....adults either...but I have my OWN money so I can buy what I want...just as teenagers in my house can with their OWN money....At 14 my step daughters will only be allowed to wear minimal makeup....lipgloss...mascara...that is about it...because my dh is strict about kids being kids (in my house)

 

[xxManBeaterxx]

My sister in law who is younger than me suffers from severe cystic acne, and even with dermatologist treatments it just doesnt go away, so her mom buys her top of the line foundations and makeup since she was 14 years old now shes 18. She always got what she wanted as a kid, now that shes 18 she hasnt had a job in her life yet she has 2 closets filled with clothes and enough makeup to compete with a hardcore mac addict.

The only time my mom bought me makeup was when i went to the prom in highschool and she bought me blot powder and nymphette lipgloss for touch ups. Once i turned 16 i had a job and my parents never spend a dime on me for luxury items since, it feels good to earn your own stuff.

 

[Curly1908]

^Understandable, Tish. Again, another one of my reasons for putting "obligated" in quotation marks is that I realize it doesn't hold true for all parents and in all situations. (But my dad wouldn't dream of telling my mom what to with us concerning "beauty" issues.

That stuff, puberty stuff, period stuff, etc. was HER domain.

)

I developed skin issues at age 11 and was not allowed to wear foundation till age 14. I wasn't allowed to wear lipstick, mascara, eyeshadow, etc. till age 16. (Just gloss + foundation) I never looked "grown" and never got into trouble in high school. No pregnancies and no sex with boys either. I graduated with a perfect gpa and full-ride scholarships to many colleges.

There were some girls at my school whose parents never let them wear makeup, and they were sluts with 2.5 gpas. *shrugs*

 

[TISH1124]

My husband doesn't not allow it for the "slutty" aspect...he just doesn't like little girls looking like little women...hence no beauty pagents until 16 are allowed...Just his way and it's his girls so I'm fine with it. I don't think makeup determines what kind of person you will be....that has nothing to do with our age limits on makeup.

 

[OfficerJenny]

I feel spoiled e_e

I get an allowance. lols. Mother treats me to extras on occasion.

Butya, if you feel that foundation (or any makeup) is a necessity, uh.