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OfficerJenny
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I laughed way harder at that than I should have.
It's true though ;_; I do nothing ;___;
Originally Posted by TISH1127
You are !!! You have almost as much make-up as me! Get a job Chadster!! STAT!! Stop just walking around looking cute! |
I laughed way harder at that than I should have.
It's true though ;_; I do nothing ;___;
Curly1908
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Hilarious. You get an allowance? I didn't get an allowance as a teen.
I did get a job though. And the only *luxury* makeup item purchased for me was foundation...certainly no MAC lippies, e/s, etc. "extras".
Anyway.
I'm sincerely not trying to be nasty/snarky, but I don't think you possess the maturity to be able to understand how sensitive/depressing/traumatic having scarred, acne-riddled skin is as a teenage girl. If you could even slightly put yourself in my position or understand the explanations that I put forth in my previous posts, you wouldn't have made such a silly comment...especially after I explained what I meant by "necessity".
| Originally Posted by OfficerJenny
I feel spoiled e_e I get an allowance. lols. Mother treats me to extras on occasion. Butya, if you feel that foundation (or any makeup) is a necessity, uh. |
Hilarious. You get an allowance? I didn't get an allowance as a teen.
I did get a job though. And the only *luxury* makeup item purchased for me was foundation...certainly no MAC lippies, e/s, etc. "extras".
Anyway.
I'm sincerely not trying to be nasty/snarky, but I don't think you possess the maturity to be able to understand how sensitive/depressing/traumatic having scarred, acne-riddled skin is as a teenage girl. If you could even slightly put yourself in my position or understand the explanations that I put forth in my previous posts, you wouldn't have made such a silly comment...especially after I explained what I meant by "necessity".
xxManBeaterxx
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^^
Im all for Team Chad needs a Job!!
Im all for Team Chad needs a Job!!
OfficerJenny
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Because no one else has gone through sensitive/dramatic/traumatic things in high school.
Edit: let me make it clear I wasn't making my response aimed at you. Sure, your post is what fueled mine, but I meant in general. Not in your specific case.
| Originally Posted by Curly1908
I'm sincerely not trying to be nasty/snarky, but I don't think you possess the maturity to be able to understand how sensitive/depressing/traumatic having scarred, acne-riddled skin is as a teenage girl. If you could even slightly put yourself in my position or understand the explanations that I put forth in my previous posts, you wouldn't have made such a silly comment...especially after I explained what I meant by "necessity". |
Because no one else has gone through sensitive/dramatic/traumatic things in high school.
Edit: let me make it clear I wasn't making my response aimed at you. Sure, your post is what fueled mine, but I meant in general. Not in your specific case.
TISH1124
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I have to say, From having a gay 16 y/o nephew...that is one of the most tramatic and hardest things you can go through as a teenager....even as an adult...I have never experienced the cruelty he has had to endure at a very young age from his school mates...So I think one just might be surprised what a lot of kids have to deal with on a daily basis...and it is things that no amount of makeup can fix
Curly1908
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Not at all, but teenagers just aren't capable of understanding the psychological damage they do to each other. That's why they bully, start rumors, are exceptionally cruel, etc. It wasn't that long ago that I was a teenager so I can compare how we all were then vs. now.
I'm just saying -- think of all the things that revolve around how one looks in high school. Think about the example I posted (e.g. kids with cancer/alopecia). Think about how you would feel if solving your biggest problem in life was as easy as purchasing a $25 item. That's all. I wasn't asking for anyone to agree with me...just to understand where I was coming from (like Tish did).
| Originally Posted by OfficerJenny
Because no one else has gone through sensitive/dramatic/traumatic things in high school.
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Not at all, but teenagers just aren't capable of understanding the psychological damage they do to each other. That's why they bully, start rumors, are exceptionally cruel, etc. It wasn't that long ago that I was a teenager so I can compare how we all were then vs. now.
I'm just saying -- think of all the things that revolve around how one looks in high school. Think about the example I posted (e.g. kids with cancer/alopecia). Think about how you would feel if solving your biggest problem in life was as easy as purchasing a $25 item. That's all. I wasn't asking for anyone to agree with me...just to understand where I was coming from (like Tish did).
OfficerJenny
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I understand what you're saying. All I was saying, like Tish, is that there are plenty of things people get made fun of for that they can't cover up.
I'm a teenager and I deal with it on a pretty much daily basis.
| Originally Posted by TISH1127
I have to say, From having a gay 16 y/o nephew...that is one of the most tramatic and hardest things you can go through as a teenager....even as an adult...I have never experienced the cruelty he has had to endure at a very young age from his school mates...So I think one just might be surprised what a lot of kids have to deal with on a daily basis...and it is things that no amount of makeup can fix |
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| Originally Posted by Curly1908
Not at all, but teenagers just aren't capable of understanding the psychological damage they do to each other. That's why they bully, start rumors, are exceptionally cruel, etc. It wasn't that long ago that I was a teenager so I can compare how we all were then vs. now. I'm just saying -- think of all the things that revolve around how one looks in high school. Think about the example I posted (e.g. kids with cancer/alopecia). Think about how you would feel if solving your biggest problem in life was as easy as purchasing a $25 item. That's all. I wasn't asking for anyone to agree with me...just to understand where I was coming from (like Tish did). |
I understand what you're saying. All I was saying, like Tish, is that there are plenty of things people get made fun of for that they can't cover up.
I'm a teenager and I deal with it on a pretty much daily basis.
Curly1908
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I completely understand, and I'm not going to get into my full personal history. The thing is -- I don't play "whose blues are worse than mine". No person can completely understand the pain that another person goes through -- even if they are in the same position (e.g. a gay teen in rural Georgia vs. a gay teen in NYC).
I simply acknowledge the way they feel and offer my empathy/sympathy. That same acknowledgment of feelings & empathy/sympathy was not offered to me in this thread. THAT is where maturity comes into play.
| Originally Posted by TISH1127
I have to say, From having a gay 16 y/o nephew...that is one of the most tramatic and hardest things you can go through as a teenager....even as an adult...I have never experienced the cruelty he has had to endure at a very young age from his school mates...So I think one just might be surprised what a lot of kids have to deal with on a daily basis...and it is things that no amount of makeup can fix |
I completely understand, and I'm not going to get into my full personal history. The thing is -- I don't play "whose blues are worse than mine". No person can completely understand the pain that another person goes through -- even if they are in the same position (e.g. a gay teen in rural Georgia vs. a gay teen in NYC).
I simply acknowledge the way they feel and offer my empathy/sympathy. That same acknowledgment of feelings & empathy/sympathy was not offered to me in this thread. THAT is where maturity comes into play.
MissMarley
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All I can say is that you need to be grateful for having loving parents that provide with shelter, food, an education, and those books and clothes that you don't really want. You have plenty of time in your adult life to work for the luxuries you want. Appreciate where you are at now in your life, and if MAC is that big a priority for you, then evaluate what you can do in order to earn money to buy it yourself. Be grateful that your parents don't hand you everything you want on a silver platter- you'll appreciate it later on.
TISH1124
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Curly1908
I totally sympathize with anyone that has to go through acne, skin problems etc...But honestly I can only speak on the issues I have had experience with...I have never had to deal with acne or skin problems ...But I can imagine how tramatic it would be..I freak when I get my monthly pimple...It's all good girl...no one is saying anything you are doing is wrong....at least I'm not
I totally sympathize with anyone that has to go through acne, skin problems etc...But honestly I can only speak on the issues I have had experience with...I have never had to deal with acne or skin problems ...But I can imagine how tramatic it would be..I freak when I get my monthly pimple...It's all good girl...no one is saying anything you are doing is wrong....at least I'm not
Curly1908
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I know you do. Just like I can't cover up being Black, you can't cover up being gay so I empathize with you. And I would never dismiss your pain just because I don't know what being gay is like.
And makeup cannot cover up psychological scars or physical pain. (Some acne treatments hurt like hell.
) But it did help as a teenager.
| Originally Posted by OfficerJenny
I understand what you're saying. All I was saying, like Tish, is that there are plenty of things people get made fun of for that they can't cover up. I'm a teenager and I deal with it on a pretty much daily basis.
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I know you do. Just like I can't cover up being Black, you can't cover up being gay so I empathize with you. And I would never dismiss your pain just because I don't know what being gay is like.
And makeup cannot cover up psychological scars or physical pain. (Some acne treatments hurt like hell.
Curly1908
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Thanks!
Google "acne and hyperpigmentation" and click "images" some time, and you'll see medical cases of what I'm referring to. (My skin was that bad up until a year or so ago, and I'm still treating the hyperpigmentation in addition to preventing breakouts.)
I now welcome my monthly Aunt Flo pimple (as long as she doesn't bring any uncles or cousins)!
| Originally Posted by TISH1127
Curly1908 I totally sympathize with anyone that has to go through acne, skin problems etc...But honestly I can only speak on the issues I have had experience with...I have never had to deal with acne or skin problems ...But I can imagine how tramatic it would be..I freak when I get my monthly pimple...It's all good girl...no one is saying anything you are doing is wrong....at least I'm not |
Thanks!
Google "acne and hyperpigmentation" and click "images" some time, and you'll see medical cases of what I'm referring to. (My skin was that bad up until a year or so ago, and I'm still treating the hyperpigmentation in addition to preventing breakouts.)
I now welcome my monthly Aunt Flo pimple (as long as she doesn't bring any uncles or cousins)!
HustleRose
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i had really awful skin when i was in high school and i know what it feels like to need foundation and/or concealer. unfortunately for me my mother did not think i should be wearing makeup because of two reasons- thought i was not old enough & thought it would make the acne worse. hence why i got a job so i could buy what i wanted. even so, i had to sneak the makeup on in the bathroom before school started and washed it over right after school ended.
but hey, we all have to make sacrifices for our makeup obsessions!
but hey, we all have to make sacrifices for our makeup obsessions!
Eire3
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I think this is 100% right.
I had bad skin, i couldn't even watch myself in the mirror, though it wasn't real acne. When you're 13 or 14 you haven't got the rationality to say yourself "it's ok the same, i'm beautiful as I am"...this is impossible for many adults too, imagine how it is for children, especially when your friends has a skin that looks like a peach. Everyone, often, is more beautiful than you at that age in your opinion, even if you haven't got particular problems.
So I think that it's a duty for a parent to have the sensibility to recognize that you're suffering. I know it's not a big deal, there are children that are seriously ill and have way more big problems than acne, but at that age you can only think that your skin is horrible, that you're ugly and that no boy ever will like you...I know that it's stupid, but this is how adolescent age is and it can be stupid for an adult, not when you are 14 and are in that situation. And you're mother should have the sensibility, in my opinion, to talk to you and make you understand that you're beautiful the same but also to bring you to a good dermatologist and do everything she can to make you feel better.
It's not spoiling, it's avoiding the depression of your child. I was the less spoiled child in the world, always punished if i did something wrong and they bought me things (few) only if i deserved them. No clothes just because they were in style and such. But this has to do with the ability of your parents to try to enter your world for a moment and understand your feelings, not with spoiling and such.
Buying you a Chanel lipgloss for 25 euros just because you "want" it is spoiling, buying you foundation and a good moisturizer because you've got skin issues and you're suffering because of them is not.
Unfortunately dermatologist for me wasn't enough: i hadn't got a real acne so i couldn't take those strong drugs for acne, it was hormonal related and i was too young to start taking contraceptive pill.
Solution: skin care (not enough though) and a good foundation to cover.
And it was a fortune my mom has enough knowledge to know that going everyday in a polluted city without anything on your skin is worse for your skin than wearing a good foundation.
And now I have a better skin than some of my friends that never wore make-up on their face, they starting now, without knowing how to apply it and which product to choose. I do know what kind of products are good for my skin and so i can take care of it. Which is better?
(of course, this is only my humble opinion based on my experience. I'm not referring to anyone or judging anyone)
| Originally Posted by Curly1908
Again, I guess people didn't understand the meaning of quotation marks around a word. Well, the $100s of dollars in bills from the dermatologist, pharmacist, and skincare aisle that was spent on my behalf as a teen (and I still had horrible skin) contradict that statement. Skin issues are known to cause clinical depression. Teen already suffer from terrible self-esteem and teasing. Acne & scars just add onto that. I have very sensitive skin and had to use quality, department store foundations (as recommended by my derm) that wouldn't further exacerbate my skin issues to cover the red marks & post-acne hyperpigmentation issues that often plague WOC while I underwent treatments. I guess I'm blessed that I had a sensitive, caring mother who saw this as a necessity for me. I'd do the same for my child. |
I think this is 100% right.
I had bad skin, i couldn't even watch myself in the mirror, though it wasn't real acne. When you're 13 or 14 you haven't got the rationality to say yourself "it's ok the same, i'm beautiful as I am"...this is impossible for many adults too, imagine how it is for children, especially when your friends has a skin that looks like a peach. Everyone, often, is more beautiful than you at that age in your opinion, even if you haven't got particular problems.
So I think that it's a duty for a parent to have the sensibility to recognize that you're suffering. I know it's not a big deal, there are children that are seriously ill and have way more big problems than acne, but at that age you can only think that your skin is horrible, that you're ugly and that no boy ever will like you...I know that it's stupid, but this is how adolescent age is and it can be stupid for an adult, not when you are 14 and are in that situation. And you're mother should have the sensibility, in my opinion, to talk to you and make you understand that you're beautiful the same but also to bring you to a good dermatologist and do everything she can to make you feel better.
It's not spoiling, it's avoiding the depression of your child. I was the less spoiled child in the world, always punished if i did something wrong and they bought me things (few) only if i deserved them. No clothes just because they were in style and such. But this has to do with the ability of your parents to try to enter your world for a moment and understand your feelings, not with spoiling and such.
Buying you a Chanel lipgloss for 25 euros just because you "want" it is spoiling, buying you foundation and a good moisturizer because you've got skin issues and you're suffering because of them is not.
Unfortunately dermatologist for me wasn't enough: i hadn't got a real acne so i couldn't take those strong drugs for acne, it was hormonal related and i was too young to start taking contraceptive pill.
Solution: skin care (not enough though) and a good foundation to cover.
And it was a fortune my mom has enough knowledge to know that going everyday in a polluted city without anything on your skin is worse for your skin than wearing a good foundation.
And now I have a better skin than some of my friends that never wore make-up on their face, they starting now, without knowing how to apply it and which product to choose. I do know what kind of products are good for my skin and so i can take care of it. Which is better?
(of course, this is only my humble opinion based on my experience. I'm not referring to anyone or judging anyone)
jaclynashley
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I must agree about the foundation part 100%.
I had TERRIBLE acne.
I'm not even joking when I say my face had those evil little bumps everywhere.
But I tried preventing it,it's not like I was unaware of acne.
I have parents that both had terrible acne,so it also came to me no matter what I did.
So foundation really helped my confidence,it didn't matter if my eyeshadow looked amazing if my skin looked like a pizza face.
And in the end foundation taught me how to take alot better of my face in general as far as moisturizing and washing it.
YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO HAVE TERRIBLE ACNE UNLESS YOU HAVE HAD IT!
So in my opinion I would spend a decent amount of money on my childs foundation (if I had one) to prevent her getting teased,and her skin terrible later on in life because I know how it feels.
But that is my two cents.
I had TERRIBLE acne.
I'm not even joking when I say my face had those evil little bumps everywhere.
But I tried preventing it,it's not like I was unaware of acne.
I have parents that both had terrible acne,so it also came to me no matter what I did.
So foundation really helped my confidence,it didn't matter if my eyeshadow looked amazing if my skin looked like a pizza face.
And in the end foundation taught me how to take alot better of my face in general as far as moisturizing and washing it.
YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO HAVE TERRIBLE ACNE UNLESS YOU HAVE HAD IT!
So in my opinion I would spend a decent amount of money on my childs foundation (if I had one) to prevent her getting teased,and her skin terrible later on in life because I know how it feels.
But that is my two cents.
TISH1124
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WOW...
This has gotten so off topic...basically the original question was I WANT MAC my parents WON'T buy MAC, WHAT should I do...It had nothing to do with needing it to compensate for a medical skin problem. acne, etc......
So therefore based off the question....In the words of Shimmer...Get a Job.
Thats my opinion....
This has gotten so off topic...basically the original question was I WANT MAC my parents WON'T buy MAC, WHAT should I do...It had nothing to do with needing it to compensate for a medical skin problem. acne, etc......
So therefore based off the question....In the words of Shimmer...Get a Job.
Thats my opinion....
Shimmer
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I remember what it's like to think this was honestly the truth...that no one else could possibly understand the way a certain situation feels or the stresses it creates.
Everything was unique to my situation and oh so dramatic...
Of course none of us want our kids to endure unnecessary cruelty, but at the same time, we aren't obligated as parents to provide what essentially boils down to luxuries just because our kids want them.
I stand by my statement....earn the money and buy what you want.
| Originally Posted by jaclynashley
YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT FEELS LIKE |
I remember what it's like to think this was honestly the truth...that no one else could possibly understand the way a certain situation feels or the stresses it creates.
Everything was unique to my situation and oh so dramatic...
Of course none of us want our kids to endure unnecessary cruelty, but at the same time, we aren't obligated as parents to provide what essentially boils down to luxuries just because our kids want them.
I stand by my statement....earn the money and buy what you want.
