Mom Says Men Always Cheat, So Expect It...
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ShugAvery2001
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There are very view universal experiences.. birth, death, and a few things in between.
but you know people are able to be categories right. I mean think about how companies market to people. You've been analyzed and grouped into a specific category......
Now think about how companies market to MEN....
they very much put them in categories that say .. okay throw in some high powered tools, cars, and what else.. HALF NEKKED WOMENS lol
A lot of men fall into the category of cheaters.....
Originally Posted by lara
One person's experiences do not dictate a universal experience. Make your own judgements, don't absorb someone else's issues. |
There are very view universal experiences.. birth, death, and a few things in between.
but you know people are able to be categories right. I mean think about how companies market to people. You've been analyzed and grouped into a specific category......
Now think about how companies market to MEN....
they very much put them in categories that say .. okay throw in some high powered tools, cars, and what else.. HALF NEKKED WOMENS lol
A lot of men fall into the category of cheaters.....
NutMeg
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My point was just that while some people (men and women) will not cheat regardless of the situation, there are others who may cheat on someone they don't feel particularly serious about whereas that same person wouldn't cheat on someone they're in love with. I didn't mean to imply that it is somehow the fault of the person being cheated on, although re-reading my post I can see how it sounded like that.
| Originally Posted by Lapis
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Errr how does cheating depend on the partner who's trust is being defiled? |
My point was just that while some people (men and women) will not cheat regardless of the situation, there are others who may cheat on someone they don't feel particularly serious about whereas that same person wouldn't cheat on someone they're in love with. I didn't mean to imply that it is somehow the fault of the person being cheated on, although re-reading my post I can see how it sounded like that.
lara
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But not all of the millions upon millions of men out there are cheaters, that's my point.
You can't apply an empirical evidence set of one ('my father cheated on my mother') and then use that as your final data. The sample set is too small and the bias is too high for one thing.
| Originally Posted by ShugAvery2001
A lot of men fall into the category of cheaters..... |
But not all of the millions upon millions of men out there are cheaters, that's my point.
You can't apply an empirical evidence set of one ('my father cheated on my mother') and then use that as your final data. The sample set is too small and the bias is too high for one thing.
3773519
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My dad as cheated on my mom from what i know 3 times. i have cheated in all my relationships..and now i had been behaving myself for yrs i had found out that my man had met someone on the cruise i sent him for his 30th bday with his friends. i let him know i was not stupid and that i was gonna find out everything that i was not the ONE to mess with. i even spoke to the girl..but im working things out because i know i did my dirt and am sure this was karma. so i say everyone cheats just dont be blind. dont let thinking someone loves you soooo much that they would NEVER do something like that ..because ur being blind...be smart and alert. let them know they gotta prove a whole lot for you to be a believer of them. i have 6 yrs with my man and thought he would NEVER do that...but he did.
lara
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That reads more as 'like attracts like' than anything else.
| Originally Posted by 3773519
My dad as cheated on my mom from what i know 3 times. i have cheated in all my relationships..and now i had been behaving myself for yrs i had found out that my man had met someone on the cruise i sent him for his 30th bday with his friends. i let him know i was not stupid and that i was gonna find out everything that i was not the ONE to mess with. i even spoke to the girl..but im working things out because i know i did my dirt and am sure this was karma. so i say everyone cheats just dont be blind. dont let thinking someone loves you soooo much that they would NEVER do something like that ..because ur being blind...be smart and alert. let them know they gotta prove a whole lot for you to be a believer of them. i have 6 yrs with my man and thought he would NEVER do that...but he did. |
That reads more as 'like attracts like' than anything else.
3773519
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Maybe... maybe not..but even if i didnt go from personal experience..just going by from what my friends and family it has happened to almost everyone i know...
EXAMPLE: My cousin had the relationship all my other friends and family killed for. we all thought her and her man were perfect...then one day she sits me down and tells me she found the motel reciept in his wallet when he left it at her house and realized he had a moment he slipped.it happens..we just have to try to stop it or not let it be so easy to happen.
| Originally Posted by lara
That reads more as 'like attracts like' than anything else. |
Maybe... maybe not..but even if i didnt go from personal experience..just going by from what my friends and family it has happened to almost everyone i know...
EXAMPLE: My cousin had the relationship all my other friends and family killed for. we all thought her and her man were perfect...then one day she sits me down and tells me she found the motel reciept in his wallet when he left it at her house and realized he had a moment he slipped.it happens..we just have to try to stop it or not let it be so easy to happen.
ShugAvery2001
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You must not have read the statistics from scientific studies I sent
I'm saying science plus experience can lead one to believe that you can say MOST men
We're not here >< right now..
When I say most .. you seem to interpret that as ALL...
| Originally Posted by lara
But not all of the millions upon millions of men out there are cheaters, that's my point. You can't apply an empirical evidence set of one ('my father cheated on my mother') and then use that as your final data. The sample set is too small and the bias is too high for one thing. |
You must not have read the statistics from scientific studies I sent
I'm saying science plus experience can lead one to believe that you can say MOST men
We're not here >< right now..
When I say most .. you seem to interpret that as ALL...
ShugAvery2001
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that's not so either...
"good" non cheaters find themselves in relationships with "cheaters" all the time.
| Originally Posted by lara
That reads more as 'like attracts like' than anything else. |
that's not so either...
"good" non cheaters find themselves in relationships with "cheaters" all the time.
*Stargazer*
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I don't see much of Lara in the Chatter forum, but I do know one thing. She speaks wisdom. Always.
| Originally Posted by lara
One person's experiences do not dictate a universal experience. Make your own judgements, don't absorb someone else's issues. |
I don't see much of Lara in the Chatter forum, but I do know one thing. She speaks wisdom. Always.
MzzRach
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Eloquently said.
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Trust &Communication is Key! |
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| Originally Posted by NutMeg
I choose to not live my life in fear or paranoia. |
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| Originally Posted by *Stargazer*
To say that all men cheat is just as offensive to me as when a man says that all women are sluts. |
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| Originally Posted by lara
One person's experiences do not dictate a universal experience. Make your own judgements, don't absorb someone else's issues. |
Eloquently said.
Beauty Mark
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Having not read the actual study, I still buy that it's inclusive. You're relying that everyone in the study was honest, that the sampling was truly wide and varied enough, and used the same definition of cheating.
| Originally Posted by ShugAvery2001
You must not have read the statistics from scientific studies I sent
I'm saying science plus experience can lead one to believe that you can say MOST men We're not here >< right now.. When I say most .. you seem to interpret that as ALL... |
Having not read the actual study, I still buy that it's inclusive. You're relying that everyone in the study was honest, that the sampling was truly wide and varied enough, and used the same definition of cheating.
S.S.BlackOrchid
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I do not believe that the woman drives the man to cheat. Men are capable of being accountable for their own actions.
| Originally Posted by Lapis
Errr how does cheating depend on the partner who's trust is being defiled? |
I do not believe that the woman drives the man to cheat. Men are capable of being accountable for their own actions.
abbey_08
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i dont think ALL men cheat, seems like your mum might of had a bad experience with men of the cheating kind though!!!
it probably seems like its only men that cheat because woman are more vocal about it when we get cheated on and want to kill the bloke! men arent as open about it, like they might not tell all their friends or get so emotional about it (no offense 2 any woman or man...iv been there too) ...and when women are wronged we tend to hate on men and go kinda feminist (im not saying ALL women do this or ALL men do this)...i know what im trying to say but cant quite find the words so that might sound wrong!
as many women cheat as men...i think its kinda a negative way to view ALL men.
the best thing to do with a cheating partner if DUMP them and NEVER go back or talk to them again. eventually they will learn how to treat a woman/man!!!
it probably seems like its only men that cheat because woman are more vocal about it when we get cheated on and want to kill the bloke! men arent as open about it, like they might not tell all their friends or get so emotional about it (no offense 2 any woman or man...iv been there too) ...and when women are wronged we tend to hate on men and go kinda feminist (im not saying ALL women do this or ALL men do this)...i know what im trying to say but cant quite find the words so that might sound wrong!
as many women cheat as men...i think its kinda a negative way to view ALL men.
the best thing to do with a cheating partner if DUMP them and NEVER go back or talk to them again. eventually they will learn how to treat a woman/man!!!
lara
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I believe you're looking for the words bitter or jaded, not feminist.
| Originally Posted by abbey_08
...and when women are wronged we tend to hate on men and go kinda feminist (im not saying ALL women do this or ALL men do this)...i know what im trying to say but cant quite find the words so that might sound wrong! |
I believe you're looking for the words bitter or jaded, not feminist.
CandiGirl21
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I'm borderline with this one...
A hell of a lot of men cheat, but very few don't.
That sums it up for me. lol
A hell of a lot of men cheat, but very few don't.
That sums it up for me. lol
shimmyshimmyya
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I have mixed feelings about all of this...
At this particular moment in my life, if I were in a relationship with someone and they cheated on me (kissing and emotional fall in that catagory), I would be devastated and would definitely break up with that person.
I feel like this, if you want to cheat, then you need to be single. Don't waste people's time, energy and love if you're not willing to give it back 100% percent.
However, I can understand 5 to 20 years down the line and you find out that the other person was cheating. It's not so easy to walk away from. I think relationships can survive infidelity if that's what both people want.
Me personally, I don't think I could deal with it. I know I can be 100% faithful so I expect someone who wants to be with me, needs to do the same.
At this particular moment in my life, if I were in a relationship with someone and they cheated on me (kissing and emotional fall in that catagory), I would be devastated and would definitely break up with that person.
I feel like this, if you want to cheat, then you need to be single. Don't waste people's time, energy and love if you're not willing to give it back 100% percent.
However, I can understand 5 to 20 years down the line and you find out that the other person was cheating. It's not so easy to walk away from. I think relationships can survive infidelity if that's what both people want.
Me personally, I don't think I could deal with it. I know I can be 100% faithful so I expect someone who wants to be with me, needs to do the same.
OfficerJenny
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I don't think it's logical to say all or even a majority of men cheat. Just because a majority of the men YOU have dated cheated on you, doesn't mean a majority of men cheat.
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TISH1124
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^^^ Amen....adding or the majority of men that your friends and family know or have dated...which speaks for about .000001 % of all the men in the world! I say these women need to be more selective in whom they decide to spend their lives with! I know I have been cheated on before and I therefore have a sense for the type of man that normally does cheat...so after that relationship ...In knowing better I did better ...In my selection of men.
