My Issue With SpecktRa.net

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pinkkvintage

pinkkvintage

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Delete The Post Because A Mod Feels The Need To Tamper With My Writting
I Did Not Sign Up For A Website That Thinks They Have The
Right To Delete My Writtings Or Add Something To It
There Is Such Thing As Freedom Of Speach

I Would Rather The Whole Thread Be deleted Than Have My Stuff Messed With
 
OfficerJenny

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Re: My Issue With Speckta.net

I totally agree. What good does it do if someone says the look is amazing when in reality it does need some improvement. That's what the FOTD forums are there for. That doesn't mean people should be like "That look is absolutely horrendous why would you ever wear that." But I agree, a lot of the members here sugarcoat their comments on FOTDs so people don't get their feelings hurt :c
 
Shimmer

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There's no excuse for meanness.
And, before anyone advocates that type of behavior, it may be a good idea to consider whether the advocate would want to be on the receiving end of the whip.
There's a huge difference between saying "OMG ur browz are wayyyy too dark." and saying "Maybe next time, you could try a lighter brow to make the look more balanced..." and making the point that way.
Meanness, mean spirited comments, rudeness, etc. won't be tolerated. Criticism for the sake of criticism isn't tolerated.

And, there's a learning curve with makeup. There are people on this site with EVERY skill level, some of these girls here can do a perfect cat eye without ever stopping snoring. Then there are girls who post who are just getting into it.
It's not necessary to bring them down just to make the person doing the critique feel better about him/herself, and often than not that's what happens.
If you don't like an FOTD, click past it. If you don't like a poster's looks, don't click their threads. It's that simple.
I, and the other moderators, won't tolerate mean or cruel behavior.
 
Zantedge

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"my 23 month old nephew could do better than some of the people i see on this site"

Is this what you think of as constructive criticism?
 
Willa

Willa

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In another thread, I already told what I was thinking about the situation. I just think that some people need to know they can improve, and some other can't accept the fact.

So, some of them are ready to read less sugar coated comments, but others, going with the fact that people arent ''bitchy'' here, would not accept any comment saying ''you could improve this or that by doing this...'' because they are used to be told they look fantastic and such.

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MACATTAK

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I get what you are saying. However, keep in mind that people perceive things differently. To you, it may look like a wreck, but to others it may look good. Also, some people don't want CC or feedback. If they ask for it, that's a different story. I really appreciate everyone who shares their photos, and I honestly think you can at least find one good point in every FOTD.
 
NicksWifey

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I'm sorry, but I see no point in this thread, other than to be rude.

You've posted a lot of FOTDs lately, how would you like it if someone said rude things that you didn't agree with about yours?
 
Shimmer

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I'm going to let this run briefly. I'm going to ask that people remain civil. This is a tetchy issue and while I can appreciate the discussion, I don't want it to escalate.
 
..kels*

..kels*

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the way i see it, every single member of specktra is deeply passionate about MAC & cosmetics in general. that passion will always drive a person to improve. everyone does start somewhere & posting a FOTD doesn't necessarily mean the poster thinks they're the best. IMO if they are brave enough to post a FOTD they deserve to have their confidence boosted.

i know if i were to have been brutally critiqued after my first FOTD, i would have been discouraged to post another. but i do agree that it does get a bit out of hand sometimes - telling someone with jacked liner that their liner skills are out of this world, etc.. why not point out that they have great brows instead? i don't give CC unless it's been asked for. linking a bunch of tutorials can be offensive.
 
OfficerJenny

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I think it's bad to tell people their look is horrible, and it's bad to tell them their look is perfect(when it can use improvement). It gives people the wrong Idea, because someone didn't want to potentially hurt the posters feelings. If you are going to post your makeup looks on the internet for everyone to see, you should expect both good and not so good feedback.

Still, I don't think we should be saying "Omg why are you wearing that it's disgusting omg take it off" but we should be giving people the constructive criticism they deserve.
 
MAC_Whore

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You may see a beginner's FOTD that you feel is not up to your standard. Other's may see some areas for improvement in it as well, but if they chose to focus on the positive, i.e. "that lip colour is great on you" as opposed to breaking apart everything that is slanting on the learning curve, what is bad about that?

There is nothing wrong with focusing on the positive and providing, constructive criticism. I know that is a foreign concept on a handful MU sites and those girls/guys get vicious.
 
frocher

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pinkkvintage
first off
its true
secondly i wouldnt ever say that to someone
and i didnt think someone would actually think id say that..
and if i was that rude to say stuff like that trust me there would be TONS of replys to fotds talking crap but see id rather tell someone what they need to improve on but i dont understand why other people say oh that looks great when it doesnt...


like i said in the orginal post
CONSTRUCTIVE CRIT.
i wasnt implying someone should talk down to someone else if their make up itsnt all it could be.. but i do think its shitty that people lie and say oh it looks good.. i think you should say it needs improvement rather than sayin oh its beautiful... how are they going to know what they are doing wrong or what they need to approve on if no one will tell them the truth

Your opinion is not the only one out there. What looks good to some may not look good to others. I see the FOTD forum as a place where looks can be shared, it is an inspiring place to gather ideas and learn from each other. Some members ask for CC, others do not. If they ask for it, then it would be appropriate for you to politely give your advice. However, if they do not, I don't see how it is anyone's place to tell them how to do their makeup. You wouldn't give unsolicited advice on someone's looks in your face to face encounters, it is equally as rude on the net.
 
NicksWifey

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Originally Posted by pinkkvintage
to be honest if they told me i need to improve on this or that i would take it to heart and ONCE AGAIN no one said anything about leaving rude comments to anyone... read the post once again.. i dont think i said 'lets leave mean and rude comments to people' i believe i said i dont understand why people are sugar coating things

I get what you are saying, but it's just the comments you made in your original first post to start the thread off. I'm not going to pick them apart or anything.
When I look at someone's FOTD, I might not agree with the colors they chose, maybe just because I think it's too much or I personally couldn't pull the colors off. I just click past if I don't agree with it.
 
MAC_Whore

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If you are referring to Frocher's post, she isn't saying anything about leaving rude comments.
 
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