No more B2M (Back to MAC)?

[User49]

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Originally Posted by SakurasamaLover Lush has started something like B2M. Just like that... in some place at least.

Speaking of which I picked up my freebie after taking back five pots (i go through ultra bland make up remover like no tomorrow! It's lovely!) and I got a mud facemask called Cupcake. I quite enjoy the terrible messyness there products make. Makes me feel like a kid playing with playdoe and paint again! AND SMELLS LOVELY!

 

[nursee81]

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Originally Posted by Spikesmom I think they take back your empty items but you do not get anything in return.

They take back any brand and give you a free deluxe type sample. I think its a great idea and also helps the enviroment.



Now you can bring your empty cosmetic tubes, bottles and jars, etc. - regardless of brand - to your nearest Origins retail store or department store counter nationwide.* All returned packaging will be sent back to a central location where products will be recycled or used for energy recovery.

In an industry first, Origins will accept packaging from any cosmetic company regardless of the manufacturer. We believe that the more we collect from consumers, the more we can keep cosmetic packaging out of landfills. And we hope this program will encourage other companies into following our example.

To thank you for joining us in our commitment to the environment, we’ll treat you to a FREE sample of your choice of one of Origins high-performance skincare products.

 

[shriekingviolet]

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Originally Posted by vocaltest I don't think it will plummet. The majority of MAC's customers aren't MAC Cosmetics fanatics like we are on here... most haven't even heard of MAC's Pro system etc let alone 'depotting' or pro pans, I know because I was one of those customers a few years back! Then again, I might be wrong.

I agree. Plus for a lot of MAC customers (myself included!), MAC counters or online are the only places they can shop because there isn't a freestanding store nearby. I'm a longtime MAC fanatic but I buy all of my eye shadows as singles, not because I plan to B2M the packaging (honestly, I never remember to bring my empties with me so they never get cashed in

) but because that's they only way they're available to me unless I want to order by phone. Plus LE shadows don't come in pan form so there's that too.

 

[Cyanide.Candy]

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Awh jeez, I really hope this doesn't come to pass as it's a great programme and I really respect MAC for leading the way in this regard.

Does anyone know if this is going to be discontinued will this effect all of the U.K and the rest of Europe or is it just the U.K?

I wonder if there'd be any point in a group of us getting together and e-mailing HQ letting them know how we feel about it and why we think it would be such a loss.

 

[TISH1124]

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^^^ couldn't hurt....

 

[SMMY]

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But there must be a significant portion of people taking advantage of the B2M program for them to think of cutting it, correct? If it's a substantial enough number that it affects their bottom line, it can't be a small group of people and I would bet dollars to donuts that more than half of the B2M returns are depots.
So I do think if they get rid of the B2M program, it will impact the number of single eye shadows being sold, if people realize they're losing the added benefit of B2Ming the empties. I know, I'll be focusing more on quads, if they do that. Unless it's truly a unique color like Mothbrown or Magnetic Fields, I'll probably skip or wait until it shows up at a CCO, like Trish said.

 

[vocaltest]

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Originally Posted by SMMY But there must be a significant portion of people taking advantage of the B2M program for them to think of cutting it, correct? If it's a substantial enough number that it affects their bottom line, it can't be a small group of people and I would bet dollars to donuts that more than half of the B2M returns are depots. So I do think if they get rid of the B2M program, it will impact the number of single eye shadows being sold, if people realize they're losing the added benefit of B2Ming the empties. I know, I'll be focusing more on quads, if they do that. Unless it's truly a unique color like Mothbrown or Magnetic Fields, I'll probably skip or wait until it shows up at a CCO, like Trish said.

I'm not gonna argue about it... we don't even know 100% if this is true, and because of that we don't know exactly why, so we can't say that the sole reason for mac possibly stopping the b2m system is due to the amount of depots.
I just don't believe the sales will decrease if this were to stopped... not everybody has access to a freestanding/pro store.. there is one pro store here in the UK and only a handful of freestanding stores, so I'm hazarding a guess that pot eyeshadows are sold in higher volumes than pan forms (perhaps glitternmyveins or dirtyplum have any info about which sells higher). Like I said before, I might be wrong, but not every mac customer is a fanatic like we are!

 

[Cyanide.Candy]

Let's make our voices heard!

It's a pity that no-one can categorically either confirm or deny this atm...

Also if it is true, from what I've read on here and on the other message board it would appear that they're pulling this in a hushly-hushly manner. To avoid upsetting the masses?

Perhaps they don't want to let the news leak in case they're deluged with last minute people try to B2M all their items all at once before the dreaded D-Day when B2M ceases to exist.

Of course I'm merely surmising here, it could be a completely different scenario altogether...

Whilst I do realise that a lot of businesses are going through a tough time atm and that perhaps MAC think that scrapping the B2M is a good way to cut some losses I do believe, like some others here that it could be detrimental to business in the long run - like others have said people just may wait for quads to come out, or check out their local CCO's on a more regular basis hoping to snap up some bargains.

I'm sure that the appeal of returning 6 empties and getting a lipstick worth ~£11.25 or thereabouts was a big plus for lots of people and probably helped in "justifying" some purchases!

Now, I'm not suggesting that we go screaming blue murder or anything like that, but perhaps it might be an idea to start an on-line petition of sorts - "SAVE OUR B2M"

It would be pretty easy for someone to write out a template e-mail outlining our concerns over rumours that the B2M scheme is to be scrapped, why we like it so much and how it boosts sales and why it would be disadvantageous to all around to discontinue you...

We could all copy and paste and fire it off to some head honchos at MAC HQ. I mean, it's what not even 5 minutes out of our lives, and hey y'never know maybe if word started filtering through that a lot of people would be put out by the retirement of B2M that someone may sit up and take notice.

I mean if they don't know that people feel so strongly about it then it's very easy to pull the plug on it, but if strong sentiment is shown then that may change things...

I'm sure it would be easy to get some support on this - I'm sure that there's lots of people on MUA and other make-up related forums and message boards that would be interested to learn of this and perhaps would also like to have their voice heard.

Ok, maybe I'm talking a load of crap here, I dunno... but hey, it worked for Wispa bars!!

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I do hope however that I'm getting waaay ahead of myself here and that we're all worrying over something that isn't about to happen anytime soon...

 

[X4biddenxLustX]

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This thread just makes me shudder.

If it is true for the U.K., I'm so sorry! I really hope it isn't, but things aren't looking too bright =[

Plus we're not sure if MAC will discontinue this in other countries either still...

I was at my counter a few days ago and I had asked the 2 MA's that I see the most there about this and they were like WTF? They said that they have no heard anything about that. The one MA said that it would be ridiculously stupid on MAC's part to do that. While the other one said that considering the economy it MAY be a possibility soon. But again the whole recycling environmental thing is big these days, and it would be very unpopular to stop the program. Will it hurt there sales? Idk... I just hope that ALL of this is just a rumor or something and that none of it is true. I'll be sure to ask in a few weeks again when I go to my counter since I think my MA's have update coming up anyways.

But if this does happen, I'll most likely stop buying e/s in pots from the perm line and just calling the pro number to have the pans sent to me. While the LE e/s I'll still get even if there in a pot. But spending an extra 3 4 bucks per e/s and not being able to do anything with the pot anymore isn't worth it to me if there going to end B2M. Like what am I going to do with all those empties?!

 

[Lovely Gia]

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I need two more items for B2M hopefully they don't stop it before i finish with two more things. If anyone wants to donate 2 of their empties to me it would be greatly appreciated xx

 

[mslips]

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Bullshit!! Mac's already being more stingy with their discount! The new luggage case that's 279.00 doesn't accept the discount and im so mad! These ltd collections like Hello Kitty didn't include it..seriously they shouldn't be taking away all this..they should be encouraging it to help the sales due to the bad economy!!

 

[X4biddenxLustX]

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^^ ITA. They should of at least given you MA's some form of discount on the HK collection and other items. There still making money from it anyways. They need to find more ways to make better sales.

 

[Caracoco]

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Originally Posted by mslips Bullshit!! Mac's already being more stingy with their discount! The new luggage case that's 279.00 doesn't accept the discount and im so mad! These ltd collections like Hello Kitty didn't include it..seriously they shouldn't be taking away all this..they should be encouraging it to help the sales due to the bad economy!!

I bought some stuff from HK last week and received discount on it.

 

[Caracoco]

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I heard today from a friend who went to a manager's meeting recently that they are pulling it on the quiet but that it will be very soon and she recommended that we get our stuff back there to exchange as soon as poss. It will suddenly be pulled without warning very soon.

She also found out that Mac has never recycled all the B2M stuff. It just gets incinerated!!

I'm taking my stuff back to the store on Monday and hoping it won't be too late.

 

[TISH1124]

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Well if they are basically having most of it incinerated...Not sure how that is costing them soo much money...We used to do that with old products at the lab and they charge by the load and it is not that expensive for a company of this size

 

[NatalieMT]

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I think I'm going to take in the B2M items I have tomorrow, just incase. If the programme does end it'll really suck because I do like the incentive, but at the same time if it's just going to be a UK thing, I'll just swap my empties on MUA to people that are able to use them. Still works out to be favourable in my mind!

 

[X4biddenxLustX]

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They get incinerated? Sounds like quite a waste....

 

[Ruby_Woo]

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Originally Posted by mslips Bullshit!! Mac's already being more stingy with their discount! The new luggage case that's 279.00 doesn't accept the discount and im so mad! These ltd collections like Hello Kitty didn't include it..seriously they shouldn't be taking away all this..they should be encouraging it to help the sales due to the bad economy!!

The reason there is no discount is the same reason why we don't discount our airbrushe. We don't manufacture it. The train case is manufactured BY Zucca for MAC. But since we don't do it ourselves, no discount is applicable.

 

[michelle79]

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What maybe a sign of things to come.....for the first time my MAC store didn't accept my depotted B2M empties today. I've always brought in depots with no problems. The MA told me that MAC was cutting back on B2M because it's like people are getting two eye shadows for the price of one with the depots. She also said all the MAC stores are not taking depots for B2M anymore.

It sounds like MAC does think people are taking advantage of the program. This really sucks. I have all the e/s depots & don't know what to do with them.

 

[TISH1124]

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yeah i know a lot of places have stopped the depots...But I think if you put the metal pans back in they are okay with them...they are really cheap to buy