Whoa, them be fightin' words!! lol :boxing: Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not likely to be convinced to buy something for just 20% off. But at least it's on my radar at that point. 25% is when I seriously start considering a purchase, and 40% is when I start to really get excited The 50% off on some of the UD liners, for example, forced me to order $50 worth of them to get my free shipping. They do it twice a year, so it'll be around again later this year. I think it's usually November, but I'm sure someone here can verify that!