nichollecaren
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still hoping for a travel kit review...
Sigma Brushes
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laperle
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As soon as I get my Sigma kit, I'll compare to my Kryolan duofiber, my trainer's MAC187 and the CS one (there's a girl in my class who has it).
And as someone said above, I'm not interested if it's better than MAC, we have to think cost-benefit here.
Oh, and I forgot to mention in my previou post that the phone number registered is a US one. Some companies register their sites outside the US, so they can ship abroad and I honestly think it's very cool, 'cos I can't afford a MAC 187 here. It costs 4 times more than the price u guys pay for it.
And for those complaining they're lame for grabbing MAC's numbers, I think it's fair for a small company that only makes BRUSHES to have this approach. I'm sure they'll revise the concept in the future, if they wanna go further in the tools and accessories universe.
Just my 2 cents.
And as someone said above, I'm not interested if it's better than MAC, we have to think cost-benefit here.
Oh, and I forgot to mention in my previou post that the phone number registered is a US one. Some companies register their sites outside the US, so they can ship abroad and I honestly think it's very cool, 'cos I can't afford a MAC 187 here. It costs 4 times more than the price u guys pay for it.
And for those complaining they're lame for grabbing MAC's numbers, I think it's fair for a small company that only makes BRUSHES to have this approach. I'm sure they'll revise the concept in the future, if they wanna go further in the tools and accessories universe.
Just my 2 cents.
experiment2344
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Did people get different brushes? I just got mine today. They were soft but they STUNK horribly. When I washed them the 150, 187 and 224 would NOT stop bleeding. I mean they bled worse than a counterfeit Nars brush I got. Stink worse too. I tried deoderizing the ENKORE way and surprisingly only the 150 had a good smell the rest have the stink still semi in them. Other than that they seem to be soft and nice. it just pisses me off when they reek and you can't get the smell off and I will not tolerate that much bleeding. I feel like why didn't any of the guru's say "oh yeah washing the smell out is a B and the black brushes bleed like CRAZY" I understand some MAC brushes bleed but I never in my life saw this much dye except the counterfeit nars brush. If someone can tell me how to get rid of the bleeding issue and the stubborn smell I will love you forever.
The 165 brush is smaller than the MAC one and the 187 is a bit more flimsy and less dense. The ss 224 is less scratchy than my mac 224 lol so they ARE softer/ decent brushes.
The 165 brush is smaller than the MAC one and the 187 is a bit more flimsy and less dense. The ss 224 is less scratchy than my mac 224 lol so they ARE softer/ decent brushes.
experiment2344
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They didn't bleed like crazy???? I still can't get the dye out or to stop bleeding so much from the 187 and 150 and forget the smell
. Maybe I got a bad batch??
Also I see some white goat hair in the 224 and the 165 has some black hairs in it. UGH I have the worst luck ever!!
Originally Posted by VAQTPIE
I ordered my Sigma Complete Face & Eye Set (12 brushes + brush roll) this last Friday and it came yesterday. I also ordered a SS182 (Kabuki brush). I washed the brushes last night and there was very minimal shedding. The brushes are super soft and the brush roll is 10x nicer than I expected. The fabric (leather? feel) is buttery soft. I used the SS182, SS239, and SS275 to do my makeup this morning. I must say that I'm very impressed. 
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They didn't bleed like crazy???? I still can't get the dye out or to stop bleeding so much from the 187 and 150 and forget the smell
Also I see some white goat hair in the 224 and the 165 has some black hairs in it. UGH I have the worst luck ever!!
AshleyTatton
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I have the full set and LOVE them! Great quality and such an amazing price! I recommend these to anyone and am thinking of ordering a second one just to have back ups. Love love love!
experiment2344
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AND the 150 and 187 stained my towel I laid them flat to dry. Seriously they are worse than the fake Nars brush. I kept washing and washing and oh look I'm washing them again. Seriously WTF. I am PISSED OFF.
Anyone else have this issue and how he heck do you stop the bleeding????
AFTER I WASHED IT A BAJILLION TIMES!!! Swirled the 187 in a coffee thingy after washing it for the umpteenth time! (on top is cleaner). The blue dye won't STOP!!! The 150 is worse but at least it smells OK now.
Seriously someone helppp meeee lol The white on top is cleanser and it is more blue than black but still it's so gross. It stained the towel I layed them flat to dry after the water was running clearish yesterday. It's like there is a hub of dye that keeps getting activated lol
Anyone else have this issue and how he heck do you stop the bleeding????
AFTER I WASHED IT A BAJILLION TIMES!!! Swirled the 187 in a coffee thingy after washing it for the umpteenth time! (on top is cleaner). The blue dye won't STOP!!! The 150 is worse but at least it smells OK now.
Seriously someone helppp meeee lol The white on top is cleanser and it is more blue than black but still it's so gross. It stained the towel I layed them flat to dry after the water was running clearish yesterday. It's like there is a hub of dye that keeps getting activated lol
experiment2344
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I did I contacted then they said to wait 72 hours for a reply. I just feel ripped off. The dye is still coming off and nothing I am doing is working. If anyone knows how to completely remove the dye I would love to know
| Originally Posted by laperle
why don't u send this pic to their website and ask for refunds??? |
I did I contacted then they said to wait 72 hours for a reply. I just feel ripped off. The dye is still coming off and nothing I am doing is working. If anyone knows how to completely remove the dye I would love to know
Mandy4610
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I have the ss187 and it does not bleed anymore, it never bled to start with (atleast I did not notice). This is strange. What are you washing them with? I wash mine with shampoo and then I apply conditioner on them.
| Originally Posted by experiment2344
I did I contacted then they said to wait 72 hours for a reply. I just feel ripped off. The dye is still coming off and nothing I am doing is working. If anyone knows how to completely remove the dye I would love to know |
I have the ss187 and it does not bleed anymore, it never bled to start with (atleast I did not notice). This is strange. What are you washing them with? I wash mine with shampoo and then I apply conditioner on them.
nichollecaren
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wow...my 150 did not bleed even a little...what did u use to wash them?
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| Originally Posted by experiment2344
AND the 150 and 187 stained my towel I laid them flat to dry. Seriously they are worse than the fake Nars brush. I kept washing and washing and oh look I'm washing them again. Seriously WTF. I am PISSED OFF. Anyone else have this issue and how he heck do you stop the bleeding????
AFTER I WASHED IT A BAJILLION TIMES!!! Swirled the 187 in a coffee thingy after washing it for the umpteenth time! (on top is cleaner). The blue dye won't STOP!!! The 150 is worse but at least it smells OK now. Seriously someone helppp meeee lol The white on top is cleanser and it is more blue than black but still it's so gross. It stained the towel I layed them flat to dry after the water was running clearish yesterday. It's like there is a hub of dye that keeps getting activated lol |
experiment2344
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MAC brush Cleanser over and over and over again, When this did not work shampoo. They are still bleeding and still staining when I lay them flat to dry. I am now 100% of the feeling I was ripped off. Even if I got a bad batch it is the companies responsibility to check this. To make sure EVERY brush is of quality. '
The 150 and 187 are garbage. The second any liquid touches them I will get dye bleeding even if it's just water. I washed repeatedly for two days (not straight but you get the picture) I let them dry and the 187 transferred dye so I can't even imagine using a liquid. I am miffed to say the least. They COULD have been decent brushes. There is quality but I am sorry the Dye issue I have with them is worse than when I bought a fake nars brush. I broke down and did the ENKORE deep cleaning and deodorizing and they are still bleeding. One person suggested I go to a beauty store and get shampoo made to strip dye which I don't feel like paying for. I want them to replace the brushes or at least refund me.
This company should be ashamed and the guru's who hawked it have yet to respond. My comments on their channel where they tried to hawk it disappears when I try to warn people. My bathroom sink has blueish stains all over it. I used so much cleanser and shampoo. Waste of even more money and time on these. I better get a response from Sigma by 72 hours or I will take action.
Also the 150, 168 and 187 STILL REEK. THEY STILL STINK after deoderizing.
| Originally Posted by nichollecaren
wow...my 150 did not bleed even a little...what did u use to wash them? |
MAC brush Cleanser over and over and over again, When this did not work shampoo. They are still bleeding and still staining when I lay them flat to dry. I am now 100% of the feeling I was ripped off. Even if I got a bad batch it is the companies responsibility to check this. To make sure EVERY brush is of quality. '
The 150 and 187 are garbage. The second any liquid touches them I will get dye bleeding even if it's just water. I washed repeatedly for two days (not straight but you get the picture) I let them dry and the 187 transferred dye so I can't even imagine using a liquid. I am miffed to say the least. They COULD have been decent brushes. There is quality but I am sorry the Dye issue I have with them is worse than when I bought a fake nars brush. I broke down and did the ENKORE deep cleaning and deodorizing and they are still bleeding. One person suggested I go to a beauty store and get shampoo made to strip dye which I don't feel like paying for. I want them to replace the brushes or at least refund me.
This company should be ashamed and the guru's who hawked it have yet to respond. My comments on their channel where they tried to hawk it disappears when I try to warn people. My bathroom sink has blueish stains all over it. I used so much cleanser and shampoo. Waste of even more money and time on these. I better get a response from Sigma by 72 hours or I will take action.
Also the 150, 168 and 187 STILL REEK. THEY STILL STINK after deoderizing.
LeeleeBell
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Wow I am SO sorry you had this experience...awful! It does sound like you were unlucky enough to get a really bad batch, but I agree with you that the company should have inspected the brushes.
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| Originally Posted by experiment2344
MAC brush Cleanser over and over and over again, When this did not work shampoo. They are still bleeding and still staining when I lay them flat to dry. I am now 100% of the feeling I was ripped off. Even if I got a bad batch it is the companies responsibility to check this. To make sure EVERY brush is of quality. ' The 150 and 187 are garbage. The second any liquid touches them I will get dye bleeding even if it's just water. I washed repeatedly for two days (not straight but you get the picture) I let them dry and the 187 transferred dye so I can't even imagine using a liquid. I am miffed to say the least. They COULD have been decent brushes. There is quality but I am sorry the Dye issue I have with them is worse than when I bought a fake nars brush. I broke down and did the ENKORE deep cleaning and deodorizing and they are still bleeding. One person suggested I go to a beauty store and get shampoo made to strip dye which I don't feel like paying for. I want them to replace the brushes or at least refund me. This company should be ashamed and the guru's who hawked it have yet to respond. My comments on their channel where they tried to hawk it disappears when I try to warn people. My bathroom sink has blueish stains all over it. I used so much cleanser and shampoo. Waste of even more money and time on these. I better get a response from Sigma by 72 hours or I will take action. Also the 150, 168 and 187 STILL REEK. THEY STILL STINK after deoderizing. |
malaviKat
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I will say this... my SS224 also has (what looks like) a lot of white goat hairs in it. The white hairs are very apparent, but as I haven't used it that much (I have a MAC224 and I haven't worn much makeup in a while), it hasn't bothered me too much. The brush still feels quite soft.
I saw on your other board that you thought perhaps the bristles were plastic? Anybody else notice this?
| Originally Posted by experiment2344
They didn't bleed like crazy???? I still can't get the dye out or to stop bleeding so much from the 187 and 150 and forget the smell
Also I see some white goat hair in the 224 and the 165 has some black hairs in it. UGH I have the worst luck ever!! |
I will say this... my SS224 also has (what looks like) a lot of white goat hairs in it. The white hairs are very apparent, but as I haven't used it that much (I have a MAC224 and I haven't worn much makeup in a while), it hasn't bothered me too much. The brush still feels quite soft.
I saw on your other board that you thought perhaps the bristles were plastic? Anybody else notice this?
nichollecaren
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found this today:
YouTube - Request: Full Size vs. Travel Size Sigma Brushes
| Originally Posted by Mandy4610
Any reviews on the travel kits ladies? And gents? 
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found this today:
YouTube - Request: Full Size vs. Travel Size Sigma Brushes
experiment2344
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So an Update. Tiffany D was kind enough to message me back and try to help
. She really is a good person. Also the company emailed me told me to return the brushes for a semi refund(for the brushes I return) or replacement. I think the face brushes I got were botched the eye ones are OK. The 168 is shedding but I'm thinking of just cutting my losses and just asking for another 150 and 187 because of the dye issue. I'm really scared these new brushes will be botched but then like I said the quality could be there if it were not for the dye... and shedding on the 168. I will probably ask for replacements unless I chicken out. Either way I will post what happens and if I get replacements how they are (Hopefully fantastic)
batgirl0711
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I got my brushes a few weeks ago and they are really good. I had some really bad shedding problems with the SS150 and now I am having shedding problems with the SS187. I didn't have any bleed on me when I washed them so thats good.
One thing I didnt like was that when I posted my youtube review with some negative comments like the brushes loosing some of their shape after washing them (my 219 and 224 poofed out and the 168 started to have stray hairs) some random youtuber said something about the brushes not being of MAC quality like their numbers infer. Well sigma jumped on and called that person a hater because they agreed with me and went on this rant on my youtube comment. I was like WOW thats unprofessional!!! They since deleted the comment but I have a screen shot of it and they kept saying that they thanked me for my review however they refuse to address how angry they made me for their unprofessionalism and their "hater" comment. After that I refuse to buy their travel set, I was going to but now I am boycotting them. Granted the brushes are good but I am not happy their CS.
One thing I didnt like was that when I posted my youtube review with some negative comments like the brushes loosing some of their shape after washing them (my 219 and 224 poofed out and the 168 started to have stray hairs) some random youtuber said something about the brushes not being of MAC quality like their numbers infer. Well sigma jumped on and called that person a hater because they agreed with me and went on this rant on my youtube comment. I was like WOW thats unprofessional!!! They since deleted the comment but I have a screen shot of it and they kept saying that they thanked me for my review however they refuse to address how angry they made me for their unprofessionalism and their "hater" comment. After that I refuse to buy their travel set, I was going to but now I am boycotting them. Granted the brushes are good but I am not happy their CS.
LeeleeBell
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I noticed that same thing (the white hairs on ss224) after I washed it...but it still seems soft
| Originally Posted by malaviKat
I will say this... my SS224 also has (what looks like) a lot of white goat hairs in it. The white hairs are very apparent, but as I haven't used it that much (I have a MAC224 and I haven't worn much makeup in a while), it hasn't bothered me too much. The brush still feels quite soft. |
I noticed that same thing (the white hairs on ss224) after I washed it...but it still seems soft
LeeleeBell
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Wow that's just awful
Wish I had read this before I bought those last 3 brushes. And I say last because even though I had good ones, that kind of remark is just
unforgiveable and rude and I won't be buying from those jerks again.
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Wish I had read this before I bought those last 3 brushes. And I say last because even though I had good ones, that kind of remark is just
unforgiveable and rude and I won't be buying from those jerks again.
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| Originally Posted by batgirl0711
I got my brushes a few weeks ago and they are really good. I had some really bad shedding problems with the SS150 and now I am having shedding problems with the SS187. I didn't have any bleed on me when I washed them so thats good. One thing I didnt like was that when I posted my youtube review with some negative comments like the brushes loosing some of their shape after washing them (my 219 and 224 poofed out and the 168 started to have stray hairs) some random youtuber said something about the brushes not being of MAC quality like their numbers infer. Well sigma jumped on and called that person a hater because they agreed with me and went on this rant on my youtube comment. I was like WOW thats unprofessional!!! They since deleted the comment but I have a screen shot of it and they kept saying that they thanked me for my review however they refuse to address how angry they made me for their unprofessionalism and their "hater" comment. After that I refuse to buy their travel set, I was going to but now I am boycotting them. Granted the brushes are good but I am not happy their CS. |
malaviKat
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Yeah same with mine. It actually seems softer than my MAC 224 to be honest... But I did start to wonder at the white bristles.
Interesting customer service experiences everyone seems to be having though... wow! Certainly food for thought.
| Originally Posted by LeeleeBell
I noticed that same thing (the white hairs on ss224) after I washed it...but it still seems soft |
Yeah same with mine. It actually seems softer than my MAC 224 to be honest... But I did start to wonder at the white bristles.
Interesting customer service experiences everyone seems to be having though... wow! Certainly food for thought.
