Small rant: The Beauty Review Bandwagon
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BeccalovesMAC
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U beat me to it! I was about to post the same thing. We miss u Reesha!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by MsWestchesterNY
whoa Resha!!! Haven't seen u on the boards in a minute!! 
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U beat me to it! I was about to post the same thing. We miss u Reesha!!!!!!!
chocolategoddes
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lmfao!!!! that's so true.
I'll be watching a YT vid and then the guru will say something like "...and yes, I am affiliated with this brand and I have recieved all of these products for free."
and I'm like, "Oh, really???"
I'm glad I never really bought into the hype of all these popular makeup brands from YT. Like, I'm sure Sigma brushes are nice, but Sigma brushes give their stuff out for free all the time and host a whole bunch of contests to put their product out there... but then, I can't really tell who's review is actually truthful!
| Originally Posted by BeccalovesMAC
Is it me or with all this new FTC disclaimer stuff make it easier to figure out who the real bullshitters are? |
lmfao!!!! that's so true.
I'll be watching a YT vid and then the guru will say something like "...and yes, I am affiliated with this brand and I have recieved all of these products for free."
and I'm like, "Oh, really???"
I'm glad I never really bought into the hype of all these popular makeup brands from YT. Like, I'm sure Sigma brushes are nice, but Sigma brushes give their stuff out for free all the time and host a whole bunch of contests to put their product out there... but then, I can't really tell who's review is actually truthful!
Kragey
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I don't necessarily take "I got this for free" to mean "I'll review it positively no matter what." When I review sex toys, I get $200+ items for free, and believe me, I've lambasted some of them. By the same token, I've raved about $10 stuff if it was totally worth the price.
Now, here's the issue as I see it: in the sex blogging community, there's the expectation that if you give your product out for free, you'd better be prepared for an HONEST review, no matter how expensive it is. And most sex toy retailers respect that. But many beauty companies, by contrast, expect you to rave about if; in many cases, if the guru disliked the product, they generally just don't review it. I think that sucks, honestly.
| Originally Posted by chocolategoddes
lmfao!!!! that's so true. I'll be watching a YT vid and then the guru will say something like "...and yes, I am affiliated with this brand and I have recieved all of these products for free." and I'm like, "Oh, really???" I'm glad I never really bought into the hype of all these popular makeup brands from YT. Like, I'm sure Sigma brushes are nice, but Sigma brushes give their stuff out for free all the time and host a whole bunch of contests to put their product out there... but then, I can't really tell who's review is actually truthful! |
I don't necessarily take "I got this for free" to mean "I'll review it positively no matter what." When I review sex toys, I get $200+ items for free, and believe me, I've lambasted some of them. By the same token, I've raved about $10 stuff if it was totally worth the price.
Now, here's the issue as I see it: in the sex blogging community, there's the expectation that if you give your product out for free, you'd better be prepared for an HONEST review, no matter how expensive it is. And most sex toy retailers respect that. But many beauty companies, by contrast, expect you to rave about if; in many cases, if the guru disliked the product, they generally just don't review it. I think that sucks, honestly.
paperfishies
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but 15 year olds are already sneaking to school and cussing around their friends.
If the worst thing a 15 year old is doing is dropping an F bomb on ocassion, then you should count yourself lucky.
Man, this thread had a ton of LOL moments. I still need to go back and read a few pages.
If the worst thing a 15 year old is doing is dropping an F bomb on ocassion, then you should count yourself lucky.
Man, this thread had a ton of LOL moments. I still need to go back and read a few pages.
astronaut
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Xsparkage just posted a video reviewing a L'Oreal foundation, the one that rolls on like paint, and just look at the comments she's getting. A lot of people are upset over the fact that she doesn't like the product! WHUT. So get mad over someone only posting positive reviews and when they make a negative one people get all pissed over that too. Well...
YouTube - First Impressions: LoReal True Match Roller
YouTube - First Impressions: LoReal True Match Roller
LeeleeBell
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I didn't intend to revisit this thread to post, but I just read this recent NY Times article and it really went along with the lengthy discussions we've had in here....
Skin Deep - Haul Video Brings a Bag of Finds, and Words Only for a Camera - NYTimes.com
Skin Deep - Haul Video Brings a Bag of Finds, and Words Only for a Camera - NYTimes.com
RedRibbon
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I've posted in this thread before and since then I've been blogging a lot and so I think my experience/mind may have changed.
In the past I was sent an item which I liked but no other bloggers did and I still said I wouldn't buy it because it was fiddly to use and you could get better results from something else. I got a really horrible email from someone asking my why I was reviewing something I didn't like..I don't understand that, it's my blog/youtube channel and you should be able to post what you want..
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I like this too when people say if it's good or not but I would prefer a DECENT swatch of the item if it's something like foundation/blusher/eyeshadow. You don't really need a swatch of mascara all the time. I say decent swatch because otherwise what's the point if you can't see the colour properly?
I've come across countless reviews where people are all sugary when they've gotten something free and they big it up so the freebies don't dry up..yet when they pay for it, they're more ready to say it's crap.
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I've noticed the same actually and I think that if you're gettin pissed about having to say that something was free then people are correct to question your integrity as why else would you get annoyed saying it was free?
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I've seen this too, like it's a burden to make youtube videos? I don't understand this, it's quite easy to stop making them if you want to but I think some people want the kudos and freebies without putting the effort in.
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Good point re. figuring out who bullshitter are. I think sometimes you can tell when people have been paid but don't disclose it because their videos sound like cheap infomercials like someone said..
In the past I was sent an item which I liked but no other bloggers did and I still said I wouldn't buy it because it was fiddly to use and you could get better results from something else. I got a really horrible email from someone asking my why I was reviewing something I didn't like..I don't understand that, it's my blog/youtube channel and you should be able to post what you want..
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| Originally Posted by MizzTropical
I like reading reviews where no personal photographs or video, contact information, and egos are involved, just text and stars. That way it's straight to the honest point and ur not saying something is fabulous just because u want more 4 free and u want 10 million people telling u how good it looks on u. |
I like this too when people say if it's good or not but I would prefer a DECENT swatch of the item if it's something like foundation/blusher/eyeshadow. You don't really need a swatch of mascara all the time. I say decent swatch because otherwise what's the point if you can't see the colour properly?
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| Originally Posted by spacegirl2007
wow, ive seen quite a few videos uploaded today and its pretty obvious the gurus are not happy about having to make these declarations. |
I've noticed the same actually and I think that if you're gettin pissed about having to say that something was free then people are correct to question your integrity as why else would you get annoyed saying it was free?
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| Originally Posted by Meisje
I've noticed more and more bitchy/personal/whiny comments on videos lately, too. |
I've seen this too, like it's a burden to make youtube videos? I don't understand this, it's quite easy to stop making them if you want to but I think some people want the kudos and freebies without putting the effort in.
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| Originally Posted by BeccalovesMAC
Is it me or with all this new FTC disclaimer stuff make it easier to figure out who the real bullshitters are? Like I was watching makeup by mommagee the other day, and she said straight up she was being paid to use Bslap makeup and she is their spokesperson. Doesn't she understand that she looses all credibility when she says shit like that? I understand that they might make some kind of income by accepting money from makeup companies. I just dont trust their opinions after stating that. That's like paying your lawyer to defend you. Hes only defended your ass cuz you paid him and not because he thinks your innocent. lol Just like strippers and gold diggers too. I only watch tutorials now and not reviews. I am so freaken tired of bullshitters. I wasted money on really bad products because dumb ass gurus. Its my own fault. my 0.02 |
Good point re. figuring out who bullshitter are. I think sometimes you can tell when people have been paid but don't disclose it because their videos sound like cheap infomercials like someone said..
Kragey
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^ I will say that I get very "bitchy" when people don't listen to what I'm saying (and it's evident they weren't listening in their comments), accuse me of lying, rate me poorly JUST because of my lipstick color instead of rating the video based on how helpful it is (which I'm used to, but it's still annoying), or act like I owe them something. I'm thankful that they're watching me, really, I'm totally flattered...but I don't owe them anything but respect, and visa versa.
I also refuse to treat people like idiots or sugar coat things, which apparently makes me "mean." I'm sorry, you're most likely in your teens, minimum, so why should I treat you like you're a 5-year-old? I hate being treated that way, I'm not going to do it to other people.
I also refuse to treat people like idiots or sugar coat things, which apparently makes me "mean." I'm sorry, you're most likely in your teens, minimum, so why should I treat you like you're a 5-year-old? I hate being treated that way, I'm not going to do it to other people.
RedRibbon
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I totally agree with you, I think that some people watching think that they own you and that you should only review things which would be of use to them which is a very selfish attitude to have, they should be grateful that people take time out to make these videos, not long ago you couldn't find ANY reliable reviews of products online and now there are a lot.
I've read blogs where the person has been a right bitch when it's something she has bought herself and said things like "if you don't like it, tough!" yet when she been sent something she's all like "oh sweeties, you really need to try this DARLING thing, it didn't work too well for me but it may do the trick fo you lovelies".
Why do they feel the need to change when it's not their money being spent? If anything, I'm harder on the products I get to review than the ones I buy myself.
| Originally Posted by Kragey
^ I will say that I get very "bitchy" when people don't listen to what I'm saying (and it's evident they weren't listening in their comments), accuse me of lying, rate me poorly JUST because of my lipstick color instead of rating the video based on how helpful it is (which I'm used to, but it's still annoying), or act like I owe them something. I'm thankful that they're watching me, really, I'm totally flattered...but I don't owe them anything but respect, and visa versa. I also refuse to treat people like idiots or sugar coat things, which apparently makes me "mean." I'm sorry, you're most likely in your teens, minimum, so why should I treat you like you're a 5-year-old? I hate being treated that way, I'm not going to do it to other people. |
I totally agree with you, I think that some people watching think that they own you and that you should only review things which would be of use to them which is a very selfish attitude to have, they should be grateful that people take time out to make these videos, not long ago you couldn't find ANY reliable reviews of products online and now there are a lot.
I've read blogs where the person has been a right bitch when it's something she has bought herself and said things like "if you don't like it, tough!" yet when she been sent something she's all like "oh sweeties, you really need to try this DARLING thing, it didn't work too well for me but it may do the trick fo you lovelies".
Why do they feel the need to change when it's not their money being spent? If anything, I'm harder on the products I get to review than the ones I buy myself.
RedRibbon
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ETA: I suppose it is easy to see it from both sides when you don't make videos or watch them any more (me). Re. the whiny thing I agreed to, I meant more like when people say "I really haven't got time to be doing all of this.." as if they're obligated to make videos..if that makes sense? If you don't have time, don't do it as I'm sure someone else will come along to do it as there are many reviews for one product on youtube/blogger.
I think that with a lot of the "gurus" it's an ego thing, they like people fawning over them and listening to their every word and thus don't want to stop. That's just human nature though, if you've got attention, you don't really want to lose it.
I think that with a lot of the "gurus" it's an ego thing, they like people fawning over them and listening to their every word and thus don't want to stop. That's just human nature though, if you've got attention, you don't really want to lose it.
vintageroses
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I totally agree with you, so many of them are doing it now though.
sighs & we want to trust them but it's so hard because of all the products we bought & failed to perform! Now when i see reviews esp when the FTC says they were send the product i immediately close the video, it just isn't worth my time watching something which is said just because they were obligated to.
Where are all the honest & nice gurus!
My friends have been telling me to start a channel but i really don't want to be termed as another of this dis-honest gurus because if i were to do reviews i will be honest. Gurus are to help people get the best product for their skintype/need! Not to mislead us
| Originally Posted by BeccalovesMAC
Is it me or with all this new FTC disclaimer stuff make it easier to figure out who the real bullshitters are? Like I was watching makeup by mommagee the other day, and she said straight up she was being paid to use Bslap makeup and she is their spokesperson. Doesn't she understand that she looses all credibility when she says shit like that? I understand that they might make some kind of income by accepting money from makeup companies. I just dont trust their opinions after stating that. That's like paying your lawyer to defend you. Hes only defended your ass cuz you paid him and not because he thinks your innocent. lol Just like strippers and gold diggers too. I only watch tutorials now and not reviews. I am so freaken tired of bullshitters. I wasted money on really bad products because dumb ass gurus. Its my own fault. my 0.02 |
I totally agree with you, so many of them are doing it now though.
Where are all the honest & nice gurus!
Kragey
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If you want to make a YouTube channel, I say go for it. There are very few "big" gurus I trust, and sometimes I just need a break from the bullshit.
The really sad part is that some of the most honest and knowing people on YouTube are the haulers. I say that not because I dislike hauling, but because most haulers don't do reviews.
The really sad part is that some of the most honest and knowing people on YouTube are the haulers. I say that not because I dislike hauling, but because most haulers don't do reviews.
