Small rant: The Beauty Review Bandwagon
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Vixxan
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It's no secret that we are in a bad economy right now. That makes it even more disturbing that anyone could spread hype about crap-o-products to the very people that have come to admire and trust them. I guess I’m naive because I never knew how dirty the whole YouTube guru thing is until recently. One by one I have watched gurus that I have enjoyed watching become cheesy low rate commercials. It’s sad to these people that I have gotten makeup tips from peddle products that they don’t know anything about. When did it stop being about having fun with makeup and sharing tips? Did a free bottle of foundation really make you leave your morals at the door? Did the offer of a free face massager really turn you into to the dingbat this is so great girl? I can’t image how much free stuff they would have to give me to make me record a video and put it up for all the world see of me looking like a complete liar and an idiot. I used to love watching makeup videos on YouTube now it’s the last thing in the world that I want to do. When you guys start that Specktra YouTube channel count me and my big mouth in.
BeccalovesMAC
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I agree Vixxan. I personally do not buy products that I can not swatch or try on my self. This is why I have never bought any Bitchslap, occ, lime crime or any other cosmetic line out there. I just don't trust anyones opinion on youtube or their blogs. Makeup is expensive and I don't have money to waste. I despise Coastal Scents. some of their stuff is whack(used my sisters stash) and people keep giving great reviews.
MizzTropical
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I like reading reviews where no personal photographs or video, contact information, and egos are involved, just text and stars. That way it's straight to the honest point and ur not saying something is fabulous just because u want more 4 free and u want 10 million people telling u how good it looks on u.
Boasorte
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Everytime I hear that brand I just shake my head
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I prefer to read reviews, and tutorials too
minus the bull
Originally Posted by BeccalovesMAC
I agree Vixxan. I personally do not buy products that I can not swatch or try on my self. This is why I have never bought any Bitchslap, occ, lime crime or any other cosmetic line out there. I just don't trust anyones opinion on youtube or their blogs. Makeup is expensive and I don't have money to waste. I despise Coastal Scents. some of their stuff is whack(used my sisters stash) and people keep giving great reviews. |
Everytime I hear that brand I just shake my head
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| Originally Posted by MizzTropical
I like reading reviews where no personal photographs or video, contact information, and egos are involved, just text and stars. That way it's straight to the honest point and ur not saying something is fabulous just because u want more 4 free and u want 10 million people telling u how good it looks on u. |
I prefer to read reviews, and tutorials too
spacegirl2007
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wow, ive seen quite a few videos uploaded today and its pretty obvious the gurus are not happy about having to make these declarations.
kabuki_KILLER
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I don't mind product reviews because I like seeing swatches, but I really wish that gurus would do more "looks" with what they got. It kind of sucks because one of my favorite guys on youtube is totally a review and haul junkie now and does no tutorial looks. I would think that anyone sending him stuff would be thrilled if he showed "practical application" of the product and how great it looks with this and that look.
I guess it bugs me more when people are lazy and not doing what made me get into their youtube in the first place than when they're raving about a product that isn't as A++ as they make it sound.
I guess it bugs me more when people are lazy and not doing what made me get into their youtube in the first place than when they're raving about a product that isn't as A++ as they make it sound.
astronaut
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mmm I agree. It's not like it used to be like 2 years back. It was more about actually sharing information but now I feel that more people are into the personal lives of "gurus" than actually learning about makeup. Tutorials usually take more time to do overall compared to other types of videos so I think some people just end up making, what I call "filler" videos like hauls, reviews, favorites of the month, vlogs, etc. more or even entirely. People are going to watch anyway, or even more so. I get a lot less views and comments on my tutorials, which is a bit upsetting since I put a lot more effort into them compared to a haul video. However, I'm going to try to focus on making more tutorials anyway. It's fun to share what you buy every once in a while, but it's not like I go shopping much anyway these days to do haul videos often. I definitely don't want to go into detail about my personal life with the whole world either. Some people have given me flack because they want to dig in deeper than the basic information I choose to reveal about myself, but sorry, no. That's not what I'm here for. Overall, I want my channel to consist of videos that contain content that is actually beneficial to some people rather than have mostly videos that are only for entertainment value.
| Originally Posted by kabuki_KILLER
I don't mind product reviews because I like seeing swatches, but I really wish that gurus would do more "looks" with what they got. It kind of sucks because one of my favorite guys on youtube is totally a review and haul junkie now and does no tutorial looks. I would think that anyone sending him stuff would be thrilled if he showed "practical application" of the product and how great it looks with this and that look. I guess it bugs me more when people are lazy and not doing what made me get into their youtube in the first place than when they're raving about a product that isn't as A++ as they make it sound. |
mmm I agree. It's not like it used to be like 2 years back. It was more about actually sharing information but now I feel that more people are into the personal lives of "gurus" than actually learning about makeup. Tutorials usually take more time to do overall compared to other types of videos so I think some people just end up making, what I call "filler" videos like hauls, reviews, favorites of the month, vlogs, etc. more or even entirely. People are going to watch anyway, or even more so. I get a lot less views and comments on my tutorials, which is a bit upsetting since I put a lot more effort into them compared to a haul video. However, I'm going to try to focus on making more tutorials anyway. It's fun to share what you buy every once in a while, but it's not like I go shopping much anyway these days to do haul videos often. I definitely don't want to go into detail about my personal life with the whole world either. Some people have given me flack because they want to dig in deeper than the basic information I choose to reveal about myself, but sorry, no. That's not what I'm here for. Overall, I want my channel to consist of videos that contain content that is actually beneficial to some people rather than have mostly videos that are only for entertainment value.
rbella
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^^^I agree with your statement astronaut. It does seem like people get kinda "pissy" when a youtuber doesn't respond to certain requests. Some are very personal and kind of none of anyone's business. I think that tutorials are much more interesting than haul videos. I'd rather watch that any day. I actually find the entertainment in the application of the makeup, not the "online personality". I guess it is kind of a "reality tv" mentality now.
astronaut
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I blame shows like "The Hills". I've seen people ask things like "Do you have a boyfriend?", "Can we see your boyfriend?", "Where do you live?", "Where do you work?", "Where do you go to school?", "Can you give us a tour of your bedroom?", "Can you make a video of your daily activities?"... WTF? That ain't none of yo business!
If you look at some of the veteran gurus' channels, you might see that their earlier videos consisted of tutorials then it started fading to barely any tutorials at all. I think the Youtube partnership has something to do with it as well. Some might be tempted to make other videos that are quicker to make than tutorials since they are going to get paid for them anyway.
| Originally Posted by rbella
^^^I agree with your statement astronaut. It does seem like people get kinda "pissy" when a youtuber doesn't respond to certain requests. Some are very personal and kind of none of anyone's business. I think that tutorials are much more interesting than haul videos. I'd rather watch that any day. I actually find the entertainment in the application of the makeup, not the "online personality". I guess it is kind of a "reality tv" mentality now. |
I blame shows like "The Hills". I've seen people ask things like "Do you have a boyfriend?", "Can we see your boyfriend?", "Where do you live?", "Where do you work?", "Where do you go to school?", "Can you give us a tour of your bedroom?", "Can you make a video of your daily activities?"... WTF? That ain't none of yo business!
If you look at some of the veteran gurus' channels, you might see that their earlier videos consisted of tutorials then it started fading to barely any tutorials at all. I think the Youtube partnership has something to do with it as well. Some might be tempted to make other videos that are quicker to make than tutorials since they are going to get paid for them anyway.
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sad but i think this is very true
| Originally Posted by astronaut
I blame shows like "The Hills". I've seen people ask things like "Do you have a boyfriend?", "Can we see your boyfriend?", "Where do you live?", "Where do you work?", "Where do you go to school?", "Can you give us a tour of your bedroom?", "Can you make a video of your daily activities?"... WTF? That ain't none of yo business! If you look at some of the veteran gurus' channels, you might see that their earlier videos consisted of tutorials then it started fading to barely any tutorials at all. I think the Youtube partnership has something to do with it as well. Some might be tempted to make other videos that are quicker to make than tutorials since they are going to get paid for them anyway. |
sad but i think this is very true
Meisje
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This thread is fascinating.
I have a few gurus that I watch and trust. I've surfed around through the YT makeup community in general and I can definitely see channels cropping up that seem to just want to cash in (ie giving "tips" that are things any novice already knows).
I understand only reviewing things you like. I was raised with the "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" mantra, and I actually prefer largely positive vids --- it's GREAT to see gurus all excited about products, and I feel like I can tell when it's genuine. They usually aren't completley positive anyway; for instance the person may say "the color is gorgeous on shadow three and four and five from this collection, but five has poor texture and payoff."
I don't feel like getting something for free would necessarily sway someone's opinion. But the idea of people making channels JUST to get free stuff, and not because they have skill and genuine enthusiasm and talent to share, is lame.
Thanks to all the hardworking gurus who have taught me more about makeup in the last year than I've learned in the last 15 years!
Some of my YT faves are MissChievous, MakeupGeek, TiffanyD and pixiwoo (although I wish pixiwoo would get better lighting). Zoffe has also started making videos and I enjoy those as well. Edit: I forgot KillerColors blog... love her
I have a few gurus that I watch and trust. I've surfed around through the YT makeup community in general and I can definitely see channels cropping up that seem to just want to cash in (ie giving "tips" that are things any novice already knows).
I understand only reviewing things you like. I was raised with the "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" mantra, and I actually prefer largely positive vids --- it's GREAT to see gurus all excited about products, and I feel like I can tell when it's genuine. They usually aren't completley positive anyway; for instance the person may say "the color is gorgeous on shadow three and four and five from this collection, but five has poor texture and payoff."
I don't feel like getting something for free would necessarily sway someone's opinion. But the idea of people making channels JUST to get free stuff, and not because they have skill and genuine enthusiasm and talent to share, is lame.
Thanks to all the hardworking gurus who have taught me more about makeup in the last year than I've learned in the last 15 years!
Some of my YT faves are MissChievous, MakeupGeek, TiffanyD and pixiwoo (although I wish pixiwoo would get better lighting). Zoffe has also started making videos and I enjoy those as well. Edit: I forgot KillerColors blog... love her
Kragey
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Realizing this may get a few things pelted at my head, I can understand why some gurus don't do a lot of tutorial vids. They really ARE a pain in the butt to do, because most people don't have a video that can record for that length of time. Personally, I haven't done any look tutorials yet because my camera can only record on medium quality for 6 minutes, and that's only enough time for the absolute quickest and simplest of looks. I could record one half, then take it off on my hard drive, record the other half, etc., but that gets REALLY tedious and takes a LONG time.
Although, I really make my videos just for my friends, most of whom know nothing about make-up, so fancy looks would just confuse most of them. It's not exactly the same thing.
It would be easier if people would be content with picture tutorials that go step-by-step, or the hybrid tutorials that show a picture of the step and explain what to do, then show the artist actually doing it. But I've seen people whine like crazy when that happens.
And I do agree that people are getting way too personal with some gurus. Yes, I get that they have nice personalities, and maybe they mention something personal briefly that you're curious about. But asking for tours of their room, pictures of their family, what they do on a day-to-day basis...that's just strange. They're MAKE-UP gurus, that's what they want to post videos about!
Although, I really make my videos just for my friends, most of whom know nothing about make-up, so fancy looks would just confuse most of them. It's not exactly the same thing.
It would be easier if people would be content with picture tutorials that go step-by-step, or the hybrid tutorials that show a picture of the step and explain what to do, then show the artist actually doing it. But I've seen people whine like crazy when that happens.
And I do agree that people are getting way too personal with some gurus. Yes, I get that they have nice personalities, and maybe they mention something personal briefly that you're curious about. But asking for tours of their room, pictures of their family, what they do on a day-to-day basis...that's just strange. They're MAKE-UP gurus, that's what they want to post videos about!
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wow people can be mean! if somebody takes the time to do any kind of video like that they should be a little thankful. or at least just not watch if they don't like it! crazy!
| Originally Posted by Kragey
It would be easier if people would be content with picture tutorials that go step-by-step, or the hybrid tutorials that show a picture of the step and explain what to do, then show the artist actually doing it. But I've seen people whine like crazy when that happens. |
wow people can be mean! if somebody takes the time to do any kind of video like that they should be a little thankful. or at least just not watch if they don't like it! crazy!
BeccalovesMAC
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Is it me or with all this new FTC disclaimer stuff make it easier to figure out who the real bullshitters are? Like I was watching makeup by mommagee the other day, and she said straight up she was being paid to use Bslap makeup and she is their spokesperson. Doesn't she understand that she looses all credibility when she says shit like that? I understand that they might make some kind of income by accepting money from makeup companies. I just dont trust their opinions after stating that. That's like paying your lawyer to defend you. Hes only defended your ass cuz you paid him and not because he thinks your innocent. lol Just like strippers and gold diggers too. I only watch tutorials now and not reviews. I am so freaken tired of bullshitters. I wasted money on really bad products because dumb ass gurus. Its my own fault. my 0.02
MizzTropical
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Boasorte
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Makes me wonder if Nikki20six wasn't paying her, if she would still use it??
I know prior to this whole crappy bslap madness, all she used was NYX and BenNye
| Originally Posted by BeccalovesMAC
Is it me or with all this new FTC disclaimer stuff make it easier to figure out who the real bullshitters are? Like I was watching makeup by mommagee the other day, and she said straight up she was being paid to use Bslap makeup and she is their spokesperson. Doesn't she understand that she looses all credibility when she says shit like that? I understand that they might make some kind of income by accepting money from makeup companies. I just dont trust their opinions after stating that. That's like paying your lawyer to defend you. Hes only defended your ass cuz you paid him and not because he thinks your innocent. lol Just like strippers and gold diggers too. I only watch tutorials now and not reviews. I am so freaken tired of bullshitters. I wasted money on really bad products because dumb ass gurus. Its my own fault. my 0.02 |
Makes me wonder if Nikki20six wasn't paying her, if she would still use it??
I know prior to this whole crappy bslap madness, all she used was NYX and BenNye
MissResha
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lol i remember when queenofblending was praising Lime Crime brushes
i bought them
they all sucked ass, except for a few. i was like "oh no, im reviewing these" and i did. and i said in my review which ones sucked. i just couldn't let folks think they were worth the cheap price of $25. terrible.
i bought them
they all sucked ass, except for a few. i was like "oh no, im reviewing these" and i did. and i said in my review which ones sucked. i just couldn't let folks think they were worth the cheap price of $25. terrible.
