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ThePerfectScore

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Originally Posted by Curly1908
I think beauty is very subjective so what I think you meant is that true love is when people don't seek others' approval concerning the physical beauty of their significant other.


yes... Love is when looks don't matter. But I am sick of being the only person in a relationship that feels that way.
 

ThePerfectScore

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MissLola_1

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Beauty is more than subjective, it depends of the environment, the education etc. but above all on History and culture.

In this specific case of black/white, here's my opinion.
When we used to be the dominent people (see for example, Kmt ancient "Egypt"), to be beautiful, spiritual, alive etc. equaled to be black.
For example, one of the prayer was saying something like "you are so dark that you are beautiful, you are so beautiful that you are dark".
At these times, being white was seen as awful, the color of death etc.
These ideas was kept after the dissolution of the Kemet Empire within the other African Empires /Kingdoms (i.e.Kongo kingdom, the word "black" in kikongo also means life and white represents the death).
When the African people met the white people (slavery), it has changed, the model was now the new dominant people.
Then to be white was to be beautiful, powerful, virgin etc. and dark beacame the death...every negative things.
When a people is more powerful thant other, he becomes the standars in intelligence, culture, value...and beauty.
If we were living in ancient times, your friend would have never said that.

Another thing that has an impact on our conception of beauty, the media (and our environment).
I don't know how it is in the US but here in France, you barely see Black men/women on tv.
The only you'll see are Beyoncé during the L'Oréal ads or other "African American" but very light skin-toned and of course with long straight hair.
It makes us think that to beautiful = being white or if you're black, look like Beyonce.
You must hv a very strong personnality and family/cultural backround not to be influenced by that.
I think your friend is just a victim of this propaganda, the darker you are, the uglier you are, the whiter you are, the more beautiful you are.
It's the same for Indian people, lots of women use enlightening creams to get "free" of this "horrible" dark skin and match as much as possible the standard of white people.

I think it' s the same for this story of thin/curved women.
 

sharkbytes

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It's sad to hear that sort of thing verbalized, but unfortunately a LOT of people want what they cannot genetically have.

I honestly don't think it's completely a race/ethnicity issue, I think it's self-esteem too. If you truly can find beauty in everyone, no matter their features or background, you will be less likely to yearn for something that you aren't. And conversely, if you idealize one particular group or skin color or eye color, you'll always feel that you come up short since you can't change who you fundamentally are.

It's a sad way to live, in my opinion. Everyone should just be thankful and proud to be whatever it is that they are.
 

Ziya

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Originally Posted by ThePerfectScore
ha thanks! It was really therapeutic to write... I'm a double major in psychology and sociology so I totally understand how environment and childhood experiences affect our perception of beauty and reality. I know I am not immune from racist thoughts and prejudices... we all are a lil racist haha. We all are the result of our cultural biases.

OMG I am a double major in psych and soci too!!!
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Jackie O

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That is so sad, unfortunately it sounds like she is already set in her ways, there is nothing you could really teach her. Like you said, you can talk and talk and talk but it's like trying to tell a brick wall to move. Trying to convince someone like that to think differently would just be wasting your time. But I like the response you gave her anyways!
 
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