Virgina Tech Shooting.
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knoxydoll
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If I was ever in a building and a car was driving down the hallway I honestly would just stand there and stare. I would be thinking now how in the hell did they get that in here. It's probably not the best response for that situation but it would be my response for sure.
Originally Posted by Raerae
There was a kid who went wacko in Santa Barbara in 2000, and ran a bunch of people down in Isla Vista... Scary stuff. |
If I was ever in a building and a car was driving down the hallway I honestly would just stand there and stare. I would be thinking now how in the hell did they get that in here. It's probably not the best response for that situation but it would be my response for sure.
MAC is love
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My prayers are with everyone involved in this sitution. It must be so hard for those parents, kids, etc.
I was looking at all the pictures he sent NBC, and that kid was really mentally ill. My mom thinks he might have gotten sexually abused when he was younger b/c he wrote about it so much in his plays, but who really knows? Makes me mad that he was so selfish to do this to himself and everyone else, but I do understand he had serious issues. Apparently he said in his manifesto that he did this "to be with them..." I want to know who "they" are.
I was looking at all the pictures he sent NBC, and that kid was really mentally ill. My mom thinks he might have gotten sexually abused when he was younger b/c he wrote about it so much in his plays, but who really knows? Makes me mad that he was so selfish to do this to himself and everyone else, but I do understand he had serious issues. Apparently he said in his manifesto that he did this "to be with them..." I want to know who "they" are.
blueyedlady87
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Ok. Fine. The school is completely innocent. Maybe a lockdown wasn't reasonable but all the students interviewed in the classrooms weren't even aware there was a shooting. Cho stalked 3 women which was reported to campus police, his roomates said he had an invisible girlfriend who called him Spanky, he lit a fire in his dorm, he was hospitalized for mental illness, his plays were terribly violent, he was reported to counselors by his teacher, he refused to give his name in another class. He was a ticking time bomb!! But of course this is America and we couldn't forcibly 'help' him because O no that would be taking away his rights! (Like those people he killed didn't have rights) Have you ever seen a commitment hearing? It's almost impossible. But still nothing was really done. And to that person who asked if I knew him? I'm glad to say I didn't. I made the comments based on what nearly everyone said of him, he hated people and wouldn't talk to people, his suicide note mentioned how everyone was so mean to him. That's ridiculous. Until we wake up and smell the frickn roses here in the US stuff like this will keep happenings. Give it a couple years and this will be topped. What would I have done? I dunno, why didn't those girls press charges on him when he stalked them? Where was his family and what did they do to him? Was is the schools fault? No, but in my opinion there was some degree of negligence. I'm just sick of people sympathizing with these shooters.
Tash
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I don't see a single person sympathizing with him at all. But a school can only do so much. And random pointless killings have been happening for centuries, so it's not some new thing that just popped up in the last decade. As long as people aren't perfect, this will happen.
Should every person that writes violent stuff be forced to go into treatment? Some people have more vivid imaginations than others. Plus, remember, everything we're hearing from the news is hearsay.
Should every person that writes violent stuff be forced to go into treatment? Some people have more vivid imaginations than others. Plus, remember, everything we're hearing from the news is hearsay.
ThiicknSeskii
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Sorry, but am i the only person who does not feel sorry for this school? i feel like the school brought it onto themselves.
Raerae
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How exactly did the bring it on themselves?
The fact of the matter is, for all his whining, he was more privaledged than a vast majority of the population on earth. And instead of crying because he wasn't part of the popular crowd on campus, he should have just been thankful he has the opportunity that he was given.
Instead he threw it all back in everyone's face.
The fact of the matter is, for all his whining, he was more privaledged than a vast majority of the population on earth. And instead of crying because he wasn't part of the popular crowd on campus, he should have just been thankful he has the opportunity that he was given.
Instead he threw it all back in everyone's face.
ThiicknSeskii
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This guy needed help and if the teachers and students didn't call him weird a loner, loser...got security onto him called the cops he could had got this help. the students and teachers both sounded like little pussies to me, his roommates heard him play the song shine by collective soul if you knew that song you'd know its a pretty deep song (to me anyways) and playing it over and over again was just calling out for help, yeah they where scared of him but so what? sometimes you have to be tough...and these plays and poems did they ever think this could had happened to him as a child? instead of saying drop English they maybe could had helped him.
they had so many chances to prevent this and they didn't instead they thought calling the police not showing up to class so he KNOWS hes not wanted was going to help? No.
| Originally Posted by Tash
How do you figure that? |
This guy needed help and if the teachers and students didn't call him weird a loner, loser...got security onto him called the cops he could had got this help. the students and teachers both sounded like little pussies to me, his roommates heard him play the song shine by collective soul if you knew that song you'd know its a pretty deep song (to me anyways) and playing it over and over again was just calling out for help, yeah they where scared of him but so what? sometimes you have to be tough...and these plays and poems did they ever think this could had happened to him as a child? instead of saying drop English they maybe could had helped him.
they had so many chances to prevent this and they didn't instead they thought calling the police not showing up to class so he KNOWS hes not wanted was going to help? No.
Tash
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I see what you're saying, but you can only help a person that WANTS to be helped. And everything we're seeing now is in hindsight. Plenty of people of people tried to be nice to him and he didn't want it.
To blame these people for this guy not getting help is ridiculous. And if someone was basically stalking me (calling, emailing, etc.) you can bet your ass I would have called the cops on him too.
To blame these people for this guy not getting help is ridiculous. And if someone was basically stalking me (calling, emailing, etc.) you can bet your ass I would have called the cops on him too.
ThiicknSeskii
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and u know he didn't want help?
by the sounds of it no one tried to help him, i understand calling the police if someone was stalking you i would do the same but whats that got to do with the rest, like some of his writing why did they just ignore that? he was obviously calling out for help.
| Originally Posted by Tash
I see what you're saying, but you can only help a person that WANTS to be helped. And everything we're seeing now is in hindsight. Plenty of people of people tried to be nice to him and he didn't want it. To blame these people for this guy not getting help is ridiculous. And if someone was basically stalking me (calling, emailing, etc.) you can bet your ass I would have called the cops on him too. |
and u know he didn't want help?
by the sounds of it no one tried to help him, i understand calling the police if someone was stalking you i would do the same but whats that got to do with the rest, like some of his writing why did they just ignore that? he was obviously calling out for help.
geeko
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excuse me, but i watched the news and his teacher for his creative writing class did try to help by sending him to see a counsellor. She said she was very disturbed what he wrote for his plays.
Anyway, sometimes we only can help those who can help themselves.
No amount of counselling will work if the person does not want to help himself/herself.
Anyway, sometimes we only can help those who can help themselves.
No amount of counselling will work if the person does not want to help himself/herself.
