Well Saddam is finally dead

[giz2000]

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Originally Posted by youbeabitch He hung. Not sure what to think about it. I'm happy he will no longer be around to come up and kill people but well. This is a Hmmm moment for me. Strange-I thought I would be thrilled to death- in a way I am. Its a moment of history.

I am strangely feeling the same way...it is a very big moment in history...

 

[quandolak]

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[asnbrb]

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Originally Posted by giz2000 I am strangely feeling the same way...it is a very big moment in history...

me, too. It kind of felt anti-climatic. All this hype and the President going off and stuff... and after, everyone was all "Oh. He died already?"

 

[Hawkeye]

Yeah. For some reason I thought it would be more exciting. Maybe I wanted an actual beheading like his goons would do or a blindfold and a nice clean shot in the genitals and then the heart or something like that. I don't know. Maybe I thought it would be a lot more...or maybe that's what we wanted after we found him. Once we found him maybe we all wanted him dead right then and there.

Who knows. It's a *heh* moment.

 

[beyondhope1024]

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Originally Posted by makeupnewbie Actually call me nuts or what...I feel that although saddam is a tyrant....Iraq will not be in such a chaotic state now if he was still ruling the country. I hope i don't offend anyone here by saying this, but i feel that US interference in the internal politics of Iraq is just making things worse. I don't think the rioting is going to stop at any time in the near future though. The leader who is going to take over Iraq next has to have an iron hand grip on the country in order to stabilize it. I'm sorry to say, but in a chaotic state, democracy doesn't work. You need to have autocracy to stabilize the country first and only later when the country develops can the people talk about democracy. Anyway if u ask me who the lesser of 2 evils (between osama bin laden and sadaam hussein), i would say it has to be sadaam. N i never did believe he had any nuclear weapons anyway contrary to what Bush has said. He never had any intention to spread islamic militarism/fundamentalism to other countries anyway...(he was greedy for power n $$$) as compared to Bin Laden. Osama has a potentially more dangerous agenda to spread islamic militarism to other parts of the world,sowing discord amongst muslims and non muslims and encouraging insurgencies in other countries. Hence i view him as a greater threat to the world than Saddam. Saddam eliminated people who threatened his position in his country, but Osama's Al qaeda and his followers are comparatively worse. He/They seek to eliminate the non-muslim nations in the world. And that is very disturbing. Just look at all the past killings and beheadings in Iraq.....And no thanks to him, 911 has sowed discord amongst muslims and non-muslims. And this what Al Qeada wants. To alienate muslims from non-muslims so that they will support Al Qeada's insurgency against the west and other nations that support the US. No doubt saddam hate the US, but he did not have the ability to attack the US openly. And i do not believe he support Al Qaeda fully either because Osama is a shiite and Saddam is a sunni. He would still view Osama as a threat to his own leadership in Iraq. Ultimately Saddam wanted to consolidate his own power...the reason why he hated US so much is simply one reason - The US prevented him from taking over Kuwait the oil rich nation in the earlier 1990s. As for human rights violations, he did it out of his greed for power. I don't think he can peacefully collaborate with Osama to attack the US given that these 2 people are equally as power hungry as each other. There are bound to have conflicts. There are always 2 sides to a story, i used to think that everything the US did was right, but after taking history, I have learnt to see the world from another view point. I used to think that Saddam was a very evil guy because the US said he was evil. I still think he is a sadistic guy, but i pity him more now rather than hate him. And yeah...history has taught me not to be more neutral towards analyzing such issues. Oh yeah....I prefer the Clinton administration to the Bush administration. Look at how chaotic the world is now under the Bush administration... Hope i don't offend anyone here by my views. Sorry for this super long post.

I totally agree with you 100% on these issues!

 

[Chic 2k6]

i feel that Saddam should've had a more painful death, just so he can expierience the fear he put his victims through i mean the bastard killed his own Son In Law he's a twisted man, shouldve gone to the gallows years ago

next person to trial is Osama Bin Laden, has anyone actually found this man?

 

[amoona]

makeupnewbie - I totally agree with you and many of my Iraqi friends ... those who support him and those who don't ... have also said the same thing. Iraq was never like this when he was in power. And Iraqi Christians actually were protected by him when he was in power. They're no longer protected from religious persecution and they've been caught in the middle of a lot of fighting.

I'll try to keep politics out of this as much as possible ... even if it's hard to do in this situation. However I find it rather interesting that they did it the day before the Eid. I know someone mentioned something about thinking it was done because people would all be in their houses. Actually from my experiences celebrating Eid back home most people are out on the streets and celebrating. They're going to morning Eid prayer and then they usually go buy Eid gifts and new outfits for the Eid and it's usually not until dinner time that the families gather in each other's homes. In my personal opinion ... and this is JUST MY OPINION ... there's a major reason why they executed him the day before Eid and I'm sure they realized the results of it.

Either way he's dead, it's done with. Yes it's stupid because he wont be punished for any of his other crimes that he's actually on trial for ... but it happened. I only hope that this doesn't cause any fighting after the Eid is over with.

 

[*Stargazer*]

When you live by the sword (or noose or poison gas or torture chamber or firing squad or any other number of heinous methods of killing people that Saddam employed), you shouldn't be surprised to find yourself on the receiving end one day.

I hope he's having a lovely reunion with Uday and Qusay in Hell right now. Good riddance to them all.

 

[ilovexnerdsx]

being just a young girl, i can't even begin to understand all the details that are going into this war, nor all the details with the muslim religion, nor everything that saddam has done. but plain and simple: he got what he deserved. i believe any murderer doesn't have the right to live.

 

[Beauty Mark]

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i feel that Saddam should've had a more painful death, just so he can expierience the fear he put his victims through i mean the bastard killed his own Son In Law he's a twisted man, shouldve gone to the gallows years ago next person to trial is Osama Bin Laden, has anyone actually found this man?

Saddam received probably the cruelest punishment he could've received without stepping into the "cruel and unusual punishment" territory. I'm a big fan of slow and painful deaths for some criminals, but there are laws against it.

No one has yet to find Osama bin Laden who'll turn him in; he has his group of people, some who know where he is, but no one has rolled on him. I don't want to step on political toes on my theory, so we'll just leave it at that.

 

[GreekChick]

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Originally Posted by quandolak I feel his execution was wrong. Id have rather seen him suffer every last day of his life in jail. Also his execution was bound to happen and not a life sentance. It rids foreign countries of needing to go to court over his involvement with various western goverments and their funding of his regime prior to his mass killing of kurds(weapons funded by foreign goverments). Several other key political figures also got executed along with him and more are set to follow. It seems convenient that they are they executing these particular men before key court cases have been concluded in regards to weapons funding etc that these executed men were involved in and allegedly the west too. Any corruption and wrongdoings on their part will get buried along with these men . It saves them the embarrassment of having to explain themsleves on the oil for food scandals that many countries have got involved in and through propoganger(sp) they might get a chance at convincing people that now he is gone things will get better even though life after his regime was toppled got worse. Im truely annoyed that he didnt go to jail for life as for some people being killed like this is considered an easy way out and even martydom... p.s Eid ul adha was today in Australia and same for my friend in Yemen but with time differences its on sunday for my friend in canada. It explains the reasons for date difference here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eid_ul-Adha Eid mubarak:woots:

ITA- I strongly believe death was the easy way out. He's responsible for the deaths of so many people, and I think the only true punishment would have been an entire lifetime in a cell-deprived of all freedom, where he would TRULY face himself. There, he would just want to hang himself.

 

[Beauty Mark]

Did anyone actually watch the video? It's on YouTube. One of my friends told me about it. I haven't been able to watch it. It seems wrong for some reason. I think I'm also afraid I'm going to be disturbed the way I was when I saw the pics of Saddam's dead sons

 

[Shimmer]

Sure did.

 

[Hawkeye]

Nope-but as sick as I am-he doesn't deserve respect - especially since he let his goons do beheadings of americans on TV. I think I should I go watch it!

 

[amoona]

I'm not into watching people die, when you've see it in real life it's not something fun and exciting no matter how horrible the person is.

 

[Shimmer]

I've seen it in real life, numerous times. :/

 

[Chic 2k6]

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Originally Posted by Shimmer I've seen it in real life, numerous times. :/

Are you in the military or any of the forces?

 

[Hawkeye]

Shimmer is our Army Gal

*salutes*

 

[Shimmer]

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Originally Posted by Chic 2k6 Are you in the military or any of the forces?

Formerly.

 

[quandolak]

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