Do other females act hostile towards you (aka, why do girls hate me)?

ilurvemakeup

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Originally Posted by SparklingWaves
I have been treated crossly and I chose to confront the behavior of the individual or individuals. It is discussed openly and usually the person or persons were under some misunderstanding or other ill guided issue. In all the cases, the setting became friendly and cordial thereafter.

It's never a weakness to seek understanding and open communication.

Fear and hatred go hand and hand. Knowledge & awareness open gates.

I don't see these females or any other female as someone that has any power over me, nor do I see myself over them. We are equals. I see them as my sisters that are living in darkness of their own inner fears. If I open their eyes to their darkness, I have made made another connection to a fellow human spirit. The risk is always worth the work. I would do it over an over again a million times over.


I remember awhile ago when I finally got the courage to speak up and defend myself, I cried like a baby during the whole confrontation
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Certain females are more hurtful when they are in a face to face situation. The girl called me a stupid chink and told me to go back to my country. I filed a complaint... and guess what she was never disciplined nor fired. I quit after hearing about that.
 

chocodcocoa

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I rarely get any face to face confrontations with other girls... because they know I can be MEAN.
However I have met many girls who pretended to be friendly with me and would spread rumours behind my back for being a whore a slut anything that would put other people off.
I got over this a long time ago. Who cares if girls don't like you? I have never felt any sense of comradery or sisterhood or anything like that... I do have good female friends but there aren't many. I prefer to be friends with guys because they tend not to do the whole snarky backstabbing thing. Of course the fact that I hang out with guys more gives the girls more shit to talk about.
Oh well. I live my life the way I want. You go off and talk about me and piss yourselves off. I'm happy and that's all I care.
Really, just ignore those immature and insecure women =)
 

glam8babe

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i get it alot.. thats why i have more boy friends than girl friends... and the girlfriends i do have arent jealous, they can be bitchy at times (its only natural i guess lol) but ive never heard them say anything nasty about anybody, they are truely genuine girls and i feel comfortable around them, whereas my ex best friend slagged me off behind my back everyday, was soo nice to my face, sucked up to me, basically licked my ass, copied everything but said i was ugly, unfashionable, boring, poor being my back :S ... i could never be friends with somelike like that again EVER, and everytime i see her shes with her *druggy* group of friends... oh how fun
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Willa

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A point here :

Have you noticed that when we wear colorfull, or out of ordinary eye colors, other womans tend to give us the look?

Usually I just wear mascara for work, but sometimes I put on colors and when I do, people just can't stop staring at me.

From what I've learned, a lot of woman still think that other than brown on your eyes is slutty and cheap looking
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I dress very casual at work, and in life in general... but I heard hurtfull comments from other girls (behind my back) that I looked like a clown and such. So, maybe the girls from your class felt the same...

I don't know, its only a guess
But from what I know, it happens a lot
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Obreathemykiss

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I'm sorry girls treat you badly.. It will probably always be like this for fellow females such as ourselves. Unfortunately, there are just those women who treat life as a competition and will only try to make you weak. I have dealt with so many women and old friends like this in the past...and you know what? I'm better than them because I am a bigger person than to laugh or be bitchy to someone for no good reason. I have learned to be ultra-confident in everything that I do and show people what they say about me is completely wrong.

I smile all the time, at strangers and people I know. some may see this as cocky, but I am just showing my confidence. I try to be polite, say hello to anyone and everyone and actually try to get to know them. I don't think you can ever have too many friends.

My advise to you, turn the table on them. Try to befriend them and show them who you really are. Smile and ask how their day is going, etc...they will be so damn shocked, they won't be able to speak. That should stop their cattiness...if not, screw them. Whatever you do, don't let them see how they affect you. Pretend whatever they do has no effect on you whatsoever. Just remember they are lower people than you because they don't have any respect for someone who just takes a little pride in her work and dress. There's nothing wrong with that...at all.

Shine baby, you're a star!
 

SingFrAbsoltion

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Oh I know how this feels. I posted about this in the racism thread but I had time to think about it and realized that all the people who were "racist" to me were females. I'm starting to think they just used race as as excuse to be nasty to me. I've also gotten dirty looks from girls who thought I wanted to steal their bfs. Uh not to sound stuck up, but if I wanted to I already would have. And to the girl who quit her because of another female, I so understand. I have working with all girls. At my last job my manager would literally cringe while talking to me. Or maybe her face was messed up who knows. The point is, females don't like me too much =/
 

glam8babe

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Willa
A point here :

Have you noticed that when we wear colorfull, or out of ordinary eye colors, other womans tend to give us the look?

Usually I just wear mascara for work, but sometimes I put on colors and when I do, people just can't stop staring at me.

From what I've learned, a lot of woman still think that other than brown on your eyes is slutty and cheap looking
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I dress very casual at work, and in life in general... but I heard hurtfull comments from other girls (behind my back) that I looked like a clown and such. So, maybe the girls from your class felt the same...

I don't know, its only a guess
But from what I know, it happens a lot
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thats sooo true!!!
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revinn

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You know, now that I think about it, I wonder if people think I come off as standoffish and cold.. Maybe the girls who don't acknowledge you are quite shy and intimidated by you. I know that in my high school, if someone, male or female, tries to talk to me, and they are extremely attractive or popular, I clam up and don't know what to say. Anywho, that is just a tiny theory. I definitely know how you feel when girls laugh or make snarky comments about you. I have moderate social anxiety, and I feel like everyone is laughing at me and judging me, even if they're not. Girls are so catty, and bringing down other girls makes them feel powerful. I know even I'm guilty of gossiping and shooting girls down behind their backs. It makes you feel better about your own insecurities, and covers your jealousy. So, I guess that doesn't make you feel much better, but remember that it's nothing personal. As a succesful, attractive woman they feel threatened. They're probably envious of how you have your life together, and talk you down to build themselves up.
 

duckduck

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Originally Posted by Obreathemykiss
I'm sorry girls treat you badly.. It will probably always be like this for fellow females such as ourselves. Unfortunately, there are just those women who treat life as a competition and will only try to make you weak. I have dealt with so many women and old friends like this in the past...and you know what? I'm better than them because I am a bigger person than to laugh or be bitchy to someone for no good reason. I have learned to be ultra-confident in everything that I do and show people what they say about me is completely wrong.

I smile all the time, at strangers and people I know. some may see this as cocky, but I am just showing my confidence. I try to be polite, say hello to anyone and everyone and actually try to get to know them. I don't think you can ever have too many friends.

My advise to you, turn the table on them. Try to befriend them and show them who you really are. Smile and ask how their day is going, etc...they will be so damn shocked, they won't be able to speak. That should stop their cattiness...if not, screw them. Whatever you do, don't let them see how they affect you. Pretend whatever they do has no effect on you whatsoever. Just remember they are lower people than you because they don't have any respect for someone who just takes a little pride in her work and dress. There's nothing wrong with that...at all.

Shine baby, you're a star!


I LOVE your attitude towards this - It is exactly the one I arrived at years ago, and I have found it to be outstandingly effective.
Interestingly, this happened to me with a guy a while back - turns out it's not just the females! He felt intimidated and jealous (according to accounts by other people who interact with him) and began to try and spread nasty rumors: that I was a bitch, ugly, and a lesbian. I wasn't at all bothered by the rumors since pretty much everyone I cared about could see for themselves who I was (although my boyfriend was sorely disappointed about to hear I had switched sides
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!!), but I was really surprised and hurt by his actions. I had considered him a colleague and a reasonable person, and had been sorely mistaken. At first I tried being nice, but we had known each other for over a year, and well, I had always been nice, so that didn't help much. He kept up with the rumor business, and I decided to take the tactic I took with my older brother when we were kids and he was trying to bother me: ignore it. I told people at work that I really wasn't interested in hearing about the latest thing he had said at the bar, and pretended that nothing he had done or said affected me. I might be pissed and hurt inside, but I just kept smiling and pretending I didn't care, and pretty soon I really didn't. I don't know if he has stopped talking about me or not, and I don't particularly care - essentially I took away any power his words or actions had over me. It's not easy for me not to care about what people think, but I found with enough active effort on my part, I could get there.
So all that said, my advice is be super nice to those bitches, and act like nothing they can say or do can hurt you or slow you down. Keep venting to your significant other, non-work friends, Specktra, or whoever outside of work you need to, but don't let those girls know that they have any power over you whatsoever. Pretty soon, they really won't.
 

macface

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Girlz can be evil hating Bitchez.I thought this was just in High school its not still happends.I always get evil looks for no reason.
 

SparklingWaves

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That is why I believe initially it is a good idea to at least see where they are coming from. Some will say, "I thought you were X, because of X. Minor reasons can get in the way of what could be a better environment.

My stance is that I will start the communication to see what is really going with the other person in a non-threatening manner.

In a work environment or school situation, I don’t ask of them to like my appearance or anything about me personally. However, I do ask that they work with me to get the job done in a civil atmosphere.

Now, if someone wants to continue a stance of abrasiveness, that is their responsibility and choice. I will not engage in it with them. At least, I have given us a chance of having an environment of understanding and goodwill. I will continue to treat them with civility. I will not add hay into their fire.

As I stated earlier, I do not engage with those that are full of vileness or negative energy. There are those that wish nothing but harm. My engagement with them is extremely limited. However, I still wish them wellness & peace.
 

FullWroth

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Okay, personally I don't buy this "women are just catty" business at all because in my experience guys are just as bad, except when they do it, we say "omg men are pigs!" or whatever and dismiss it. Some of the worst blows to my self esteem have come from guys saying the same kind of catty stuff girls would; the girls were more polite about it. Either they said it behind my back and let it get back to me later, at which point I could deal with it, or they said it to my face and then stuck around so we could argue over it or duke it out like (wo)men. The guys? Generally walk/drive past just quickly enough to say something really awful and then run/drive away before I can even defend myself. That's every bit as bad, if not worse.

Anyway, having gotten THAT out of my system...

There probably is something about the image you project that makes that many people not like you. Oh yeah, I said it. It doesn't make other people horrible by default (some of them, for sure, 'cause some people regardless of gender are just angry and judgmental). But like in my case, some girls can walk in looking perfectly made up and my gut reaction is "Oh wow, she looks really nice, I wish I'd spent some more time before class/wherever-I-am getting ready too" or "Nice eyeshadow/lipstick/whatever!" or "Nice jacket!" etc, and then other girls can walk in with the same sort of look and my gut reaction is "Wow, she doesn't look pleasant at all. I hope I don't have to deal with her." It's a gut thing, and I can't tell you what the difference is, although I've tried and tried to analyze it and figure it out myself.

There are various possibilities here. One is that it's nothing you can fix because it's some kind of inherent thing that's just widely misunderstood. Some people make misleading faces when they talk or think. When my dad's really deep in thought, he looks terrifyingly pissed off, and as a kid I'd frequently go "WHAT DID I DO?!" in a panic, only to have my dad say "What? I was just thinking. What are you talking about?" Some people squint or furrow their brow when they talk, making it look like they're being abrasive when they're really not. The list goes on. Some of these are things you can maybe train yourself to change, assuming that's what's going on, but it isn't easy to not do something you didn't know you were doing in the first place.

Or it could be something you CAN fix, but maybe you won't want to. Maybe in your area, girls who dress like you do and wear make-up like you do are considered to be bitchy or whatever because many of them are. You could investigate this and make a conscious choice to change your clothing brands or make-up style, but it would really depend on whether or not it means that much to you. Lots of people would be unwilling to give up their personal style to please other people, while lots of others would. YMMV.

Or it could be the way you approach people. Are you getting so blindly ambitious that you're neglecting office politics, or coming off like you don't give a crap about anyone else? It may be too late to try to make friends now, but *have* you really made any friends at your job, or have you viewed them as competition from the start and treated them accordingly? People pick up on that stuff, however subconsciously, and react in kind.

But don't get me wrong, in a competitive work environment there will always be people of both genders who'll just be insecure and make comments about you to try to get themselves up. Men might make comments about how you only got promoted because you look so goshdarn pretty for the menfolk or imply that you've been blowing someone for that promotion. Women will probably follow suit and make similar comments, because really, the "you just slept your way to the top, you whore" line of insult seems to be the most effective one in the workplace, though the girls are in the more informed position of being able to critique your clothing/make-up too. That percentage, you've always gotta just brush off and get on with your life. You can't make everyone happy.

Buuut if there seems to be such a huge number of people everywhere you go that just don't like you, well, I dunno, you might wanna examine yourself too. I like you just fine so far, from your post and all, so I don't think you're a raging bitch either, but I'm a firm believer that if someone says/does something and 9 out of 10 people react negatively to it, it's almost never those 9 out of 10 people that are wrong (although some of them most certainly are, just by virtue of being stupid/insecure/whatever). So the final answer to your problem is probably "a little of both." Some people are just insecure and don't know how to cope, and some people may be on to something about you that you don't know yourself.

Lastly, there's always the possibility that you're just completely in defensive mode because you yourself are feeling really insecure, and that half of what you see as people being unkind to you are just misunderstandings on your part (ex. I have a friend who has no problem laughing when you do something stupid, but if you laugh when she does something stupid, she'll take it personally and have a total hissy fit over it because everyone's just so mean to her). Again, I'm not you, I don't live in your world, so I dunno. It's just a possibility I'm throwing out there.
 

captodometer

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I think in the situation that you described, your coworkers are just jealous. You got promoted and they didn't. When you go back and become their boss, the brown-nosing will begin
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And I wouldn't even care what a group of snooty college students thinks. Sounds like you are about 30 or older, and they would be in 18-21 range. Not to say that everyone in this age group is clueless or irrelevant, but at age 34 I could care less about what a group of teenagers thinks about me or my appearance. But that's just me
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If you are happy with you, I wouldn't recommend that you change a thing. It sounds like you were happy before the catty comments from your coworkers and classmates. To thine ownself be true.
 

Paramnesia

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I find a lot of girls in the past have had problems with me. I have no idea why and they haven't really had any reason to be so horrible to me.

I'm seriously nothing to be jealous of and have done nothing to them. I'm at the point in my life where I really don't care if people like me or not. It's just wasting their own effect being so hostile towards me.

Some people are just not happy with themselves and feel the need to critise/put down others in hope of making themselves look and feel better.
 

x.DOLLYMiX.x

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Everytime Iam in work and on the tills serving I always get around 20 people that just stare!! or ones that look me up and down and Iam like WTF?? I think it is because I have the guts to be different and wear bright make up. I just try and be pleasent to them and its so funny coz they are so pissed of that Iam being nice to them. So dont worry about it the other girls are just jelous.
 

Moonspell

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Originally Posted by Shimmer
I don't view other women as a threat, nor do I view them as 'sisters' in this world. I view them as people.

I totally agree with Shimmer's opinion.

Fortunately, I don't have this kind of issues, maybe because I try to be focused in what really matters to me and living my life the best way I can.
People will always talk in our back, but the importance of their comments will only affect you if you allow it. With time, you’re going to learn how to build your own shield.
 

ohsewdizzy

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the gals that do that are people you pitty, they are so insecure that they can't muster up the courage to show themselves.... they hide in groups and by giggling, snickering and wispering.... ask your self "what kind of person does things like that?".... and rise above it.... its hard but know they will never rise to their dreams as you will because you love yourself enough to invest time into you...
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the better you feel the better you treat those you love
 

thewickedstyle

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Well- my company is large (we are a private school chain) and we are spread out into different buildings/sites among several neighboring towns. I am close to the other staff in my building (whom I work with every day) and the other staff that I work with frequently- for example, there are meetings every week for the different positions held- I'm close to several other lead teachers from the other schools because I see them frequently and work with them at the meetings. We get along fine. Most of the problems come when I run into or have to work with staff from other building that I don't see frequently; I get a lot of resistance and comments.

I just found out that with some assessment work that we had to turn in to the administrator heads for February, the assessment coordinator called a meeting among the lower staff members to basically tell them that they did it wrong and she used photocopies of my filing and work as an example of how it should be done. Basically the message was that they weren't working hard enough and it is going to affect their ranking, evaluations, and bonuses, so I can see why I'm getting some resentment.

As for having trouble with strangers... I talked to some friends, including my boss. Her feeling was that I walk into situations with confidence and I give off "a vibe" of being very strong and capable and she thinks I intimidate other people because I seem to not need any help or feel at all insecure. She said she gets the same reaction for the same reason. She is the strongest person I know, and she is intimidating in her confidence, so I know what she means... I just never would have categorized myself as being as confident or self-assured as she seems. I know I have plenty of insecurities and anxieties but I guess I hide them better than I thought.

Most of the people I work with wear sweats all the time but I like to dress cute and I've always gotten a lot of comments about that. I don't care, I love to wear cute clothes and shop. I'll continue to wear what I want, say whatever you want about that one. I don't like to look like I just rolled out of bed and stumbled out of the house.

What...ever...
 

Divinity

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This was 7th and 8th grade and unfortunately in school, you get pummelled for standing up to jealous girls. But, I'm still standing and dammit I was never the one with the problem!
 

kaneda

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Great post fullwroth!

Leading on from that, it is so important to self examine what you're like, or to ask people why they have a problem with you (you could ask your line manager maybe?) With me for example, I don't smile when I walk into a room. I have my headphones on, and will only smile and say hello when they're off. I know that people have had an issue with this in the past, and I explained in my old job thats what I do, so didn't have a problem.

But saying that though, i used to work in an all female office. The only male was the MD. It was easily the worst place I've worked. Like you, I'm very ambitious. I like having responsbility and I'm quite direct and to the point in work. In that environment, that was my problem. I wasn't popular and comments were made about me behind my back, and to indirectly to my face (e.g. she does my head in. yer, if she wants something then she should do it herself - I was sitting on the same desk as these people!). I had a conversation with one of the few people who I was friends with, who was in terms of responsibility the same job level as me, and she explained that I came across as being really cold sometimes because I'm calm under pressure, I didn't come across like anything phased me and that I never ask for help. I wasn't prepared to change who I was for that job, its who I am, so I left.

I then went to work for a different company, which was mixed in the genders, and it was a great decision. My personality was right for the job, got on great with everyone - but the biggest bitch, was actually a man!!
 
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