Favorite Ebay Sellers/MUA-Swappers?

[Bowdiddly]

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Originally Posted by panda0410 yes - this is from ebay to a seller who shall remain unamed for privacy reasons (please dont ask who) - I am sorry that eBay has removed your listings. Brand name perfumes and cosmetics that are filled into other containers such as bottles, sprays, pens are not allowed on eBay. Although you may have sold these items in the past, they are no longer allowed to be listed on eBay. And this is from an earlier response - Brand name products that have been divided up and placed into other containers such as bottles, sprays, pens are not allowed on eBay. So you can see it is not permitted at all by ebay, however I would think it unlikely that ebay will be trawling all listings for possible copyright infringement - I rather suspect that this was an inititive of MAC directly and ebay has responded by checking those listings. The principle still applies though and if the perfume samples were brought to the attention of the parent companies I guess the same thing could happen there.

A friend of mine who sells on Ebay has had nearly all her pigment sample listings ended and hers are genuine
The thing that amazes me is the counterfeit sellers can still trade their trash and Ebay do nothing yet her auctions were all only going for a few hours and she was swooped on .
It looks like people will be stuck with loads of odd jars of pigment
if Ebay carry this on

 

[panda0410]

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Originally Posted by Bowdiddly The thing that amazes me is the counterfeit sellers can still trade their trash and Ebay do nothing yet her auctions were all only going for a few hours and she was swooped on .

Rotten twist of irony isnt it? Most good sellers work really hard to secure reputations as people who provide AUTHENTIC samples and yet the fakers can sell whatever they bloody well please....

 

[Xqueeze_me]

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Originally Posted by panda0410 Rotten twist of irony isnt it? Most good sellers work really hard to secure reputations as people who provide AUTHENTIC samples and yet the fakers can sell whatever they bloody well please....

It's EXTREMELY unfair! :/ Those fakers get to sell their full size jar crap and they don't get caught! Even reporting items are just plain useless. I have seen A LOT of the crap fakes sold and yet eBay doesn't do anything about it when WE report those items AND now they decide to pull out genuine MAC sample listings. SERIOUSLY! It feels like eBay is supporting more of the fakers than genuine sellers. :/

 

[dizzygal]

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Originally Posted by Xqueeze_me It's EXTREMELY unfair! :/ Those fakers get to sell their full size jar crap and they don't get caught! Even reporting items are just plain useless. I have seen A LOT of the crap fakes sold and yet eBay doesn't do anything about it when WE report those items AND now they decide to pull out genuine MAC sample listings. SERIOUSLY! It feels like eBay is supporting more of the fakers than genuine sellers. :/

Soon there will be no genuine MAC samples on Ebay, I know of 3 sellers that have been suspended in the last few days for selling samples one of them does sell items(samples) that are questionable, but the other 2 sell genuine MAC pigment samples.
I like to buy a sample first as I dont live close enough to get to a MAC counter or store and it is a great way to try before you buy I have dealt with some really nice genuine sellers whose stuff is the real deal.
One comfort our most avoided seller swoosh-uk will be able to peddle their crap until their heart is content because the wonderful fair people at Ebay ignore fakes and con merchants they would rather target the decent

 

[dizzygal]

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Originally Posted by ratmist This is such a useful thread, and with that in mind, I thought I'd 'give back' because you ladies have helped me make great eBay purchases! I've got a few to add, and reaffirm, on this topic. GOOD eBAY SELLERS who ship well-packaged items quickly: my-boo-kitty (Popular US seller. I just bought my first MAC item from her - a LE Studio Finish concealer palette w/ SPF 35 - am thrilled with it! Incredibly well-wrapped so it arrived in perfect condition in the post.) lynnandjason1998 (Another good US Seller. I bought a 187se from them, and I'm very pleased with it. Arrived well packaged and came quickly.) katya_127 (UK Seller. I bought the MAC formal black ruffle with 5 short-handled eye brushes. Arrived quickly and wasn't too expensive, and came with freebie samples of perfume and shower gel.) xbeautylisciousx (UK seller. Bought glitz & blitz fluidline from her, and it arrived very quickly and was very well packaged. Not bad prices either! She has a lot of NARS brushes up for sale right now. eBay sellers that I'm waiting on, and would welcome any thoughts on: makeupmaniacs (US Seller. Bought 2 mixing mediums, an eyeliner and a face & body, on 12 May - seller says it was posted on 15 May - and I'm still waiting for it to arrive. It was international post, so I'm not seeing it as a delay - yet.) samphora-face-treat (US seller who sells mostly pressed pigments. If you buy 4, she gives a complementary e.l.f quad, and if you buy 15, she gives a 15-pan-slot MAC kit. I've bought 15 today and I'll update when I get it. She has to send it internationally to me, so it'll be a good test of how well she wraps it.) awful sellers to avoid at all costs: swoosh_uk (Got a separate thread on that, so I won't repeat it here.) Thanks ladies!

Add a2bdropship to your list they are and have been selling fake MAC pigments trying to fool people with a typing error numbers instead of names i say avoid at all costs

 

[panda0410]

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Originally Posted by dizzygal One comfort our most avoided seller swoosh-uk will be able to peddle their crap until their heart is content because the wonderful fair people at Ebay ignore fakes and con merchants they would rather target the decent

Its not so much supporting fakers, I think its the way the pigment is listed - most fakers are listing whole jars often wihtout boxes, which counterfeit and illegal they may be, are harder to target than samples which clearly breach copyright infringment when the pictures of the sample jars are shown with product in them!! - this clearly shows redistribution of the product and if accompanied with a MAC logo or jar infringes copyright law. Also I'm pretty sure its not illegal to resell WHOLE items so full jar listings (fake or real) are unlikely to be scrutinized....

 

[ratmist]

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Originally Posted by ratmist makeupmaniacs (US Seller. Bought 2 mixing mediums, an eyeliner and a face & body, on 12 May - seller says it was posted on 15 May - and I'm still waiting for it to arrive. It was international post, so I'm not seeing it as a delay - yet.)

Just got it in the post on Friday, so that was less than a week for international shipping. VERY NICE! It was well wrapped and perfect - exactly as described. Definitely recommended.

I really like being able to buy MAC Pro items on eBay because I don't have a MAC Pro site near me, as far as I'm aware, but I do have two MAC stores - one in Edinburgh and one in Glasgow; they actually comprise 50% of the total MAC stores in Scotland. I think the only MAC Pro in the UK is in London, in West Soho... and that's 5 1/2 hours on the train!

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Originally Posted by ratmist samphora-face-treat (US seller who sells mostly pressed pigments. If you buy 4, she gives a complementary e.l.f quad, and if you buy 15, she gives a 15-pan-slot MAC kit. I've bought 15 today and I'll update when I get it. She has to send it internationally to me, so it'll be a good test of how well she wraps it.)

She shipped on 20th May so hopefully it'll arrive by this weekend, or early next week. Will update when it arrives!

 

[ritchieramone]

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Originally Posted by ratmist I think the only MAC Pro in the UK is in London, in West Soho... and that's 5 1/2 hours on the train!

You can order by phone from the London pro store though (0207 534 9222). Until it was possible to order from the co.uk website, I used the mail order service when I couldn't get to a store. (Edinburgh and Glasgow are my nearest options as well.)

 

[Daligani]

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Originally Posted by panda0410 yes - this is from ebay to a seller who shall remain unamed for privacy reasons (please dont ask who) - I am sorry that eBay has removed your listings. Brand name perfumes and cosmetics that are filled into other containers such as bottles, sprays, pens are not allowed on eBay. Although you may have sold these items in the past, they are no longer allowed to be listed on eBay. And this is from an earlier response - Brand name products that have been divided up and placed into other containers such as bottles, sprays, pens are not allowed on eBay. So you can see it is not permitted at all by ebay, however I would think it unlikely that ebay will be trawling all listings for possible copyright infringement - I rather suspect that this was an inititive of MAC directly and ebay has responded by checking those listings. The principle still applies though and if the perfume samples were brought to the attention of the parent companies I guess the same thing could happen there.

Hey, I just wanted to jump in here and say that's it's not just MAC samples. It's Bare Escentuals samples as well. Sooooo, it's not just coming from MAC.

I'm heartbroken right about now. I only use MAC and BE samples because I'm too broke to buy full size jars of anything

*edit* - I do use Fyrinnae as well, but most are not MAC or BE quality =(

 

[Hilly]

Has anyone bought from

got-pigments

before?

 

[melaniumom]

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Originally Posted by panda0410 yes - this is from ebay to a seller who shall remain unamed for privacy reasons (please dont ask who) - I am sorry that eBay has removed your listings. Brand name perfumes and cosmetics that are filled into other containers such as bottles, sprays, pens are not allowed on eBay. Although you may have sold these items in the past, they are no longer allowed to be listed on eBay. And this is from an earlier response - Brand name products that have been divided up and placed into other containers such as bottles, sprays, pens are not allowed on eBay. So you can see it is not permitted at all by ebay, however I would think it unlikely that ebay will be trawling all listings for possible copyright infringement - I rather suspect that this was an inititive of MAC directly and ebay has responded by checking those listings. The principle still applies though and if the perfume samples were brought to the attention of the parent companies I guess the same thing could happen there.

Not sure if this info will help clarify anything at all, but I also have a friend who was suspended due to selling the samples and this is the exact email she got from ebay in regards to her suspension:

Thank you for writing eBay in regard to your suspension. Perfumes,
lotions and cosmetics that are decanted by a seller and filled into
other containers such as bottles, sprays, pens, etc, are not allowed on
eBay. These are considered to be infringing on the Rights Owners
trademark and will be pulled from eBay's site.

Using another company's trademark in a way that may confuse buyers
about
the source of goods or services, or confuses buyers into believing that
the seller is affiliated with, sponsored by or endorsed by the
trademark
owner is both illegal and against eBay's policies. Examples include
counterfeits, unauthorized replica items and items that bear the brand
or logo of a company without that company's permission.

If the product you are listing bears the brand or logo of a company,
but
it wasn't made or authorized by that company, don't sell it on eBay.

***Important***
Ended listings of this type may result in a range of actions, including
listing cancellation, limits on account privileges, forfeit of eBay
fees
on canceled listings and indefinite account suspension.

For information about having your account considered for reinstatement
once the term of the suspension has expired, please go to:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/reinstfaq.html

We thank you in advance for your cooperation, and wish you luck with
your future eBay transactions.

Sincerely,

Lola
eBay Customer Support"


It really does stink. I am only just finding out about all this NOW and I also sell pigment samples in my ebay store. I am shocked that I have not been suspended yet and baffled as to why my listings have been allowed to stay up. I plan to take them down shortly out of fear! LOL I don't want to be suspended considering I DO sell other items in my store.

 

[panacea81]

Hi Everyone,
I havent been in here for a while but i think i may have some good news for those who still want to track down MAC samples.

I have some links which i hope i am allowed to put in here without getting into trouble??? Please let me know if it is wrong and i wont put links down again.

I was a MAC sample seller on ebay of all 100% authentic MAC pigments and mixing mediums etc.
I have had countless emails from my buyers who are uspett that ebay is no longer allowing the samples.

I was suspended for this because as i was listing as usual in my store, ebay were taking my listings down with warnings attached. It was too late by the time that i realised this and so i was suspended.

I will be reinstating my ebay account this week but cant sell anymore samples unfortunately. I will only have full sized MAC and other beauty brands listed.
I think its is awful because some people cant afford the full size jars or cant find pro or discontinued colours like you could on ebay.
Some colours are wacky and for one nights out and never again or just plainly to collect as many colours without the huge expense for those colours in full jars if and when MAC had them in store.

Here are some links if any one is interested?
there are a few ebay mac sample sellers on these two sites allready with loads of MAC samples and more.

I do have nearly all the MAC pigment colours available so if you dont see a colour that you want or have been looking for I will be happy to help.

I cant stress enough that i do not condone counterfeit products of any description so please be assured that my products are 100% authentic guarenteed.

I hope my post hasnt offended anyone or broken any post rules.

Take care, Lauren.
panacea81

 

[dizzygal]

Hi
I like like buying the samples as I dont live near a MAC store and like totry things out before I commit to a full jar,My friend sells genuine samples and she had half her listings pulled with warnings so ended the others before she got suspended I dont know what she will do with all her odds and ends of pigments though

 

[panda0410]

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Originally Posted by panacea81 I think its is awful because some people cant afford the full size jars or cant find pro or discontinued colours like you could on ebay. Some colours are wacky and for one nights out and never again or just plainly to collect as many colours without the huge expense for those colours in full jars if and when MAC had them in store.

I totally agree - I have tonnes of samples from ebay, (whole jars too), but I have to say that ALL of the LE items/colours I have bought either in samples or whole jars have come from ebay - there is NO other place you can find these sorts of items. Many people either cant afford or dont want to invest in whole jars, or simply wouldnt get enough use from it to justify the purchase. I was enjoying buying samples from two local sellers here of authentic mac, and now neither of them can do it anymore.....

Funnily enough there are samples being listed again on UK ebay and some on US ebay as well........

ETA - pakman who was also suspended from selling samples on ebay has a website lisitng as well - here is the link - he can be pm through specktra if you are interested - whole jars and samples available -
pakman

mac.lovers also had his store closed - see his thread for some great products.

 

[melaniumom]

Welp! All of my MAC sample listings have been officially removed by ebay. I am just grateful I was not suspended! Like many others I still have tons of product left for sampling and I still plan to get every new pigment that is released!

 

[panda0410]

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Originally Posted by melaniumom Welp! All of my MAC sample listings have been officially removed by ebay. I am just grateful I was not suspended! Like many others I still have tons of product left for sampling and I still plan to get every new pigment that is released!

shame they havent pulled these particular listings, look closely ...... samples
do you have a private listing/link that people can contact you on? I am personally looking for samples of all girl - can you help?

 

[panacea81]

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Originally Posted by dizzygal Hi I like like buying the samples as I dont live near a MAC store and like totry things out before I commit to a full jar,My friend sells genuine samples and she had half her listings pulled with warnings so ended the others before she got suspended I dont know what she will do with all her odds and ends of pigments though

Why doesn't your friend try wagglepop and ecrater ? they are steadily growing websites for sellers and buyers.
Its just a thought to help anyone in this possition.

 

[Xqueeze_me]

This new Aussie eBay seller, newschoolgroove, sells pretty legit stuff!

 

[melaniumom]

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Originally Posted by panda0410 shame they havent pulled these particular listings, look closely ...... samples do you have a private listing/link that people can contact you on? I am personally looking for samples of all girl - can you help?

Unfortunately I don't have all girl. That was a hard color to get a hold of. I don't have any sort of private store, but you can always send me a private message on here or click on my little siggy pic to go to my myspace and message me there. My colors change all the time.... so just email me if you ever want to know what I have in stock at the moment.

 

[melaniumom]

Ok, so I'm not sure anyone really cares besides me... LOL... but just in case I thought I'd let you all know.

I was about to list some items today (other than MAC) when I saw that I had to do a tutorial on trademark/copyright infringments before I could continue.

Then as I was trying to print out a few labels I had noticed that thos sample listing that had been removed had also been removed from my sold items list. WHAT A FIASCO! I had to search through all of my paypal transactions to figure out exactly who ordered what and how many.

ANYWAY, what I noticed during this time is that a few of my sample listings were still up, which I found to be VERY STRANGE. The one thing they all had in common was that they are photos I took myself. I went for a period of time where my camera was broke, so I would use a stock photo instead of one I took myself. Then I guess I just got a little lazy and continued doing the same. What I learned from the little tutorial I had to do was that you MUST take your own photos and you MUST write your own descriptions. Which I NORMALLY do, but I usually include within my description how the actula company describes their product. I had no idea that was a no-no!

So, from everything I read, it would SEEM that it is still OK to list the samples so long as I follow the guidelines VERY carefully by:

Not using MAC's logo
Not using MAC's description of the product
Using MY OWN photos

This is easily accomplished!

The follwing is the exact email I received:

Trademark infringement is unlawful and violates eBay's policies. A trademark is a unique sign (such as a name, word, phrase, logo, or symbol) that a company uses to identify its products and/or services.

Using another company's trademark in a way that may confuse buyers about the source of goods or services, or confuses buyers into believing that the seller is affiliated with, sponsored by or endorsed by the trademark owner is both illegal and against eBay's policies. Examples include counterfeits, unauthorized replica items and items that bear the brand or logo of a company without that company's permission.

Guideline: If the product you are listing bears the brand or logo of a company, but it wasn't made or authorized by that company, don't sell it on eBay.

It's against the law to sell unauthorized replicas of brand name products. Accordingly, listings for unauthorized replicas are not permitted on eBay.

This is the only part that confuses me. The pigment samples ARE made by MAC but not necessarily authorized by them. Then it continues to say "unauthorized replicas" are not permitted. Is that what they mean by unauthorized? Because it IS actually a MAC pigment. It's not a fake.

.... I dunno. I guess if I have to find loop-holes to do it, I probably just shouldn't do it, eh?

It just kinda stinks because I know a lot of people would much rather have the samples rather than the full sized jars and while the sampling is not really a huge income for me, personally, it helps me to afford my addiction of pigments. :|