caffn8me
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Quandolak, I have backed up all my statements with solid and verifiable facts. What is the result? Simply that you say the facts are wrong yet you offer no evidence to support this assertion.
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The figures for illegal immigrants in the UK produced by the Home Office are an acute embarrassment to HM Government which runs the Home Office. I don't know how you can even begin to suggest that these figures are what HM government wanted the report to reveal. The facts simply don't support your allegations.
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There seems to be something of a contradiction. First you say that asylum seekers aren't illegal immigrants and there are only 16,000 of them (a figure which is blatantly untrue) and then you decide that of the possible 570,000 illegal immigrants, many actually are asylum seekrs. You can't actually have it both ways. Are you going to make you mind up?
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I have not denied the obvious. In fact I posted a link to actual figures for numbers of deportations of failed asylum seekers carried out by HM government before you ever posted a single shred of evidence to support any of your allegations. You have still not posted a link to any primary reference material which can be used to verify your claims.
I'm going to give you two choices (source: mental arithmetic - 2 choices = 1 choice + 1 other choice). You have stated that the government's figure for illegal immigrants in the UK is incorrect. You can either produce a link to a report from a reputable body such as Oxfam or UNHCR or the European Parliament to support you claim or you can apologise and withdraw this allegation completely. You don't have a third choice and doing nothing is not an option.
Currently, you are ignoring primary reference material and using your denial of the vailidity of this material as a basis on which to launch personal attacks against members of this forum. I can cope with being called ignorant or a racist (neither is true) but calling me a Sun reader goes too far. I am certainly not the only one you have attacked on this thread either.
I wish I didn't have to do this but it's time to put another hat on;
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| Originally Posted by quandolak Thats may be so but referance material nearly always proved utterly useless <snip> I dont know what sort of research you do but in regards to immigration whoever is funding the report has already decided the view that it will take. |
The figures for illegal immigrants in the UK produced by the Home Office are an acute embarrassment to HM Government which runs the Home Office. I don't know how you can even begin to suggest that these figures are what HM government wanted the report to reveal. The facts simply don't support your allegations.
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| Originally Posted by quandolak Those reports conveniently fail to include an awful lot of data about how a high percentageof *illegal immigrants * are later found to be asylum seekers |
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| Originally Posted by quandolak Im mentioning asylum seekers as that what you wrote. And asylum seekers arent illegal immigrants as the press likes to call them |
There seems to be something of a contradiction. First you say that asylum seekers aren't illegal immigrants and there are only 16,000 of them (a figure which is blatantly untrue) and then you decide that of the possible 570,000 illegal immigrants, many actually are asylum seekrs. You can't actually have it both ways. Are you going to make you mind up?
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| Originally Posted by quandolak OMG it seems like they are not! Forgive me for the sarcasm but talk about denying the bleeding obvious. |
I have not denied the obvious. In fact I posted a link to actual figures for numbers of deportations of failed asylum seekers carried out by HM government before you ever posted a single shred of evidence to support any of your allegations. You have still not posted a link to any primary reference material which can be used to verify your claims.
I'm going to give you two choices (source: mental arithmetic - 2 choices = 1 choice + 1 other choice). You have stated that the government's figure for illegal immigrants in the UK is incorrect. You can either produce a link to a report from a reputable body such as Oxfam or UNHCR or the European Parliament to support you claim or you can apologise and withdraw this allegation completely. You don't have a third choice and doing nothing is not an option.
Currently, you are ignoring primary reference material and using your denial of the vailidity of this material as a basis on which to launch personal attacks against members of this forum. I can cope with being called ignorant or a racist (neither is true) but calling me a Sun reader goes too far. I am certainly not the only one you have attacked on this thread either.
I wish I didn't have to do this but it's time to put another hat on;
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Please take this current posting as notice that I am giving you your first formal warning for breaching terms 8 and 10 of the Specktra Terms of Service due to your personal attacks against members of the forum.
