Powerful? Courageous? Disgusting? Over the line? NSFW.

[Raerae]

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Originally Posted by lipstickandhate Hmm, I think actually I can pinpoint the "ideal" female nose by defining what its not: its not big, its not bumpy, it doesn't have moles or freckles; its not asymetrical. I think this statement is deliberately obtuse. No one is having nose jobs to look more unique- no one says to the surgeon, I'd really like you to make it flatter and more bulbous. Women don't want to be character actors, they want to be Angelina Jolie. They don't want anyone to notice their nose as different.

What exactly is big though. Or small even. Everyone's face is different in proportion, and a good surgeon will make your nose proportionate to your face. So what might be a big nose on one woman, would be the idea sized nose on another.

As far as bumpy, thats up for grabs too. Depending on your heritage and culture. Some women may choose to keep a stronger nose as for them, thats beautiful. Or they may be proud of their heritage, and not want to lose that link by removeing their bump.

Moles are one thing, but you really dont get rhinoplasty to get rid of a mole, or to add one. And freckles are kinda the same. Although some girls can rock a set of freckles, and some men really like it too.

I think like all cosmetic surgery, it's very personal. And we all have our opinions on what we find attractive, and act accordingly.

 

[Beauty Mark]

While for the US at least, thin is the ideal, I think noses are varied. My grandmother, who is white, thinks my nose is perfect. It's practically flat against my face (East Asian nose). I don't think a lot of others would find mine perfect.

I think people with upturned noses, though, or ones highly disproportionate to their faces are universally considered not as great.

 

[Shimmer]

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Originally Posted by lipstickandhate Hmm, I think actually I can pinpoint the "ideal" female nose by defining what its not: its not big, its not bumpy, it doesn't have moles or freckles; its not asymetrical.

Generally speaking yes. It doesn't have ridges, it's not oversized for the face, it's not crooked, and it's not deviated. It doesn't have a prominence to it, or a hookedness to it. Etc.
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I think this statement is deliberately obtuse. No one is having nose jobs to look more unique- no one says to the surgeon, I'd really like you to make it flatter and more bulbous. Women don't want to be character actors, they want to be Angelina Jolie. They don't want anyone to notice their nose as different.

Indeed. The 'beverly hills nose job' comes to mind. How many of those women on, for example, Extreme Makeover came out with the exact same nose. How many women in LaLaLand have the exact same nose? Straight bridge, very slightly upturned, smooth, etc. Tons. Deliberately obtuse is about right. :/

 

[CaraAmericana]

Disgusting. Yes it is. I admit to be grossed out looking at her body.
Courageous. Absolutely it is. How many normal weight woman would feel comfortable posing nude? A lot yes but a lot no.
Powerful. Again yes. Even though I am grossed out by her body, it still sends a message to me that we all have a respoonsibility to look after our female sisters, mothers, and friends. When the world is against us to look a certain way, we need to be supportive and passionate to each other. And we need to be careful because most of the time the pressure to look this certain way is cause by females ourselves. How many times do we judge another female appearence without even noticing it. We're not awful people for doing this because it is human nature. But the crucial point is how apply what we judged to ourselves and to how we interact with who we just judged.

The woman in this ad must have had some damaging interactions and influences to make her hate her body before, but can you imagine the interactions she has now because she is extremely thin. Geez, even more damanging.

So I say her body grosses me but I love her because she may not be loving herself.

-if I sound sappy it is because I had a friend with an eating disorder and almost died with the self meds she was taking

 

[SparklingWaves]

The media/fashion/porn is quite guilty of giving a very distorted view of the female body. It does affect everyone.

Check out the picture of one of the girls posing for Blue London Jeans on Victoria Secret's website. The item # is 2N-159-978. This girl posing for these Blue London Jeans looks almost as thin as this poor girl. In addition, the manikins in the store are defiantly not realistic at all.

This ad is very attention getting, but this is the nature of the media now - shock, distorted, vulgar, pornographic, in your face, gross, and/or inhuman. The only difference between her and several so called sex objects is about 30 pounds and breast implants.

Ideal beauty should not be based on something that can't be attained without a knife, starvation, drugs, injecting toxins, etc.

This lady should be in a hospital. There should be a note.- "Get help if you look like this." "I am."

I wish that I had one of my research articles handy. Since women are not having as many children, the ideal woman's body has narrowed the hips since the 1950's. The breast have become larger too. How can that be?

Why does she have to be nude to send a message? Check out how she looks in a bathing suit on her website. She didn't need to be nude to prove her point. Women can be nude in any sense, but not men. That's media.

BTW -What is the company doing about this? They are going to make you pay attention to them by this and make money. Are they going to send proceeds to fight anorexia or bulimia? So, in a sense, they are going to make money off of anorexia to fight anorexia. :what:

 

[j_absinthe]

Id be lying if I said I wasn't turned a bit by D&G's campaigns, and though I know this model's intentions are noble, just knowing the way many Anorexics react to public images like this...I only see this backfiring in many respects. Not to mention that this sends out the message that fashion is about being unhealthy, which it isn't.

It does no good to fight Anorexia with images many anorexics will eventually aspire to be.

 

[Shimmer]

I don't think this ad is for the women who ARE anorexic, Ithink it's for those who MIGHT BECOME anorexic.

 

[CaraAmericana]

I don't think woman aspire to be anorexic, it is something they become because of body dysmorphia. NO one thinks 'I am going to become something that makes the world gasp in horror.' It becomes a downward spiral that becomes greater than them and they lose sight how bad they are looking and they don't know how to stop because they only thing they ever known was to not eat. Just like it is hard for an obese to pay attention to portion control when all they ever known was eating in overloads.
So even though I can say now I will never be her in the picture, I could easily become her, any of us could.
Especially to those who don't become aware and educated because we are going to treat anorexia like they did teenage pregnancy in the 50's. Behind close doors.

 

[xbeatofangelx]

that woman has guts!

I personally think this ad will combat the many people out there who strive to be super-thin; the type of people who think calling themselves "ana" is cool. It's not cool to have an eating disorder. Obviously.

What about obesity! Why do we always talk about super thin people having health risks, etc. etc.? How come I rarely see threads about how terrible obesity is, blah blah blah. I think it affects more people than anorexia, especially here in the united states.

 

[Raerae]

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Originally Posted by SparklingWaves BTW -What is the company doing about this? They are going to make you pay attention to them by this and make money. Are they going to send proceeds to fight anorexia or bulimia? So, in a sense, they are going to make money off of anorexia to fight anorexia. :what:

I had thought the same thing. Somehow all i really think they care about is selling their clothes.

 

[Raerae]

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Originally Posted by xbeatofangelx that woman has guts! I personally think this ad will combat the many people out there who strive to be super-thin; the type of people who think calling themselves "ana" is cool. It's not cool to have an eating disorder. Obviously. What about obesity! Why do we always talk about super thin people having health risks, etc. etc.? How come I rarely see threads about how terrible obesity is, blah blah blah. I think it affects more people than anorexia, especially here in the united states.

Obesity makes money.

 

[aziza]

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Originally Posted by Raerae Obesity makes money.

.

How?

 

[SparklingWaves]

I don't have anorexia, but I sure don't feel like eating when seeing this picture. It makes me nauseated. It's freaking revolting to me.

 

[Raerae]

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Originally Posted by aziza . How?

Mc Donalds, and Trim Spa, need I go on?

 

[d_flawless]

i don't know what to think. in a way is it shocking and gross and ugly, but at the same time, that's what the ad wants us to think...in a way i almost believe this ad is making a mockery of the so-called anorexic models on the runway, sort of a "you think they're skinny, check this girl out" thing. she is disgusting, skinny or not. protruding bones are not attractive to me, and her face is completely sunken in...emaciation is not a sign of beauty to me, and i really don't think they're suggesting she is beautiful, going by the "glowy skin, toned yet waifish body, rested, content face" standard so characteristic of models today.

 

[Shimmer]

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Originally Posted by Raerae Mc Donalds, and Trim Spa, need I go on?

Oh. Because McDonald's and TrimSpa are only used by obese people?

That's preposterous.


I'll go to Mickey D's here in a second and take pics of the non obese people in there to refute this, if need be.

 

[Shimmer]

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Originally Posted by d_flawless i don't know what to think. in a way is it shocking and gross and ugly, but at the same time, that's what the ad wants us to think...in a way i almost believe this ad is making a mockery of the so-called anorexic models on the runway, sort of a "you think they're skinny, check this girl out" thing. she is disgusting, skinny or not. protruding bones are not attractive to me, and her face is completely sunken in...emaciation is not a sign of beauty to me, and i really don't think they're suggesting she is beautiful, going by the "glowy skin, toned yet waifish body, rested, content face" standard so characteristic of models today.

she's saying 'Don't do this to yourself'
not
'look how skinny/hot/sexy/cool/attractive i am'

 

[Raerae]

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Originally Posted by Shimmer Oh. Because McDonald's and TrimSpa are only used by obese people? That's preposterous. I'll go to Mickey D's here in a second and take pics of the non obese people in there to refute this, if need be.

First off, I would LOVE for you to go take a pic, the hilarity of you doing that would be priceless.

Second, I never said only obese people go to McDonalds. But to say that the food insudtry and the diet/weightloss industry don't benefit from our nations expanding waist-line is as you would say, "preposterous." Why do you think they offer to "super size" every order for a quarter more. Because all those quarters add up.

 

[Raerae]

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Originally Posted by Shimmer she's saying 'Don't do this to yourself' not 'look how skinny/hot/sexy/cool/attractive i am'

Actually, she's saying, "Buy Nolita."

 

[Shimmer]

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Originally Posted by Raerae First off, I would LOVE for you to go take a pic, the hilarity of you doing that would be priceless. Second, I never said only obese people go to McDonalds. But to say that the food insudtry and the diet/weightloss industry don't benefit from our nations expanding waist-line is as you would say, "preposterous." Why do you think they offer to "super size" every order for a quarter more. Because all those quarters add up.

Your statement was that obesity makes money for mcdonald's and trimspa.

Prove it.