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Shimmer
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Mmmm. Interesting. I've never needed a nose job, so I wouldn't know.
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I caught your attempt at insulting me, I simply chose to answer it matter of factly. You asked whether I cried stepping on a scale, I said no, I never have. I don't have, and have never had, a reason to.
Originally Posted by Raerae
Yeh, i said i'd post one when I was healed. You dont go under surgery and when the bandages come off 30 mins later, look perfect. Cosmetic surgery isn't like reality TV Shimmer sorry. Right now i'm still bruised, swollen, and have raised scars. |
Mmmm. Interesting. I've never needed a nose job, so I wouldn't know.
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| Nice to know the point of that went right over your head, as usual. Maybe those three doctors you visit could clarify. |
I caught your attempt at insulting me, I simply chose to answer it matter of factly. You asked whether I cried stepping on a scale, I said no, I never have. I don't have, and have never had, a reason to.
Shimmer
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Substantiate your argument, or don't put an argument forth.
| Originally Posted by Raerae
Nah, thats what the handy, dandy Specktra search tool is for. Or, take a little initiative, and go use Yahoo or Google. It's not hard to find weight statistics put out by the government. |
Substantiate your argument, or don't put an argument forth.
Raerae
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Attempt at insulting you? Thats really grasping at straws, if you think any of that had anything at all to do with trying to insult you, and nothing to do with the fact that everyone here struggles in different ways.
Except you. Obviously. My profuse apologise.
| Originally Posted by Shimmer
I caught your attempt at insulting me, I simply chose to answer it matter of factly. You asked whether I cried stepping on a scale, I said no, I never have. I don't have, and have never had, a reason to. |
Attempt at insulting you? Thats really grasping at straws, if you think any of that had anything at all to do with trying to insult you, and nothing to do with the fact that everyone here struggles in different ways.
Except you. Obviously. My profuse apologise.
flowerhead
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I'm not really understanding the point of this ad...What do they mean by 'No anorexia?' It's like putting up a picture of a suicide victim with a caption 'No chronic depression'
The image shocked me, I've never seen such physical devastation on an anorexic's face before, even in a clinic..
Maybe she wants to set an example before she dies.
The image shocked me, I've never seen such physical devastation on an anorexic's face before, even in a clinic..
Beauty Mark
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I think the point is to discourage anorexia. I'm not a researcher in that field, but some people believe that the excessive thinness featured in ads is a cause of anorexia. The woman is supposed to show how ugly the disease can be and prevent people from being anorexic.
It's like those ads that tell you not to smoke or drink and drive.
It's like those ads that tell you not to smoke or drink and drive.
flowerhead
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I can see that point, the caption confuses me though.
What impressionable dieters need to remember is even if the models with anorexia still have their beautiful faces (which they wont keep for much longer) they feel digusting, and are hideous on the inside with their bloated hearts and all the little holes in their bones...but there's always airbrushing to cover their sallow skin and protuding ribcages..
What impressionable dieters need to remember is even if the models with anorexia still have their beautiful faces (which they wont keep for much longer) they feel digusting, and are hideous on the inside with their bloated hearts and all the little holes in their bones...but there's always airbrushing to cover their sallow skin and protuding ribcages..
Shimmer
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Indeed. You can't airbrush self esteem.
| Originally Posted by flowerhead
I can see that point, the caption confuses me though. What impressionable dieters need to remember is even if the models with anorexia still have their beautiful faces (which they wont keep for much longer) they feel digusting, and are hideous on the inside with their bloated hearts and all the little holes in their bones...but there's always airbrushing to cover their sallow skin and protuding ribcages.. |
Indeed. You can't airbrush self esteem.
j_absinthe
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I totally agree, but unfortunately, she will (I'm pretty sure she already to some degree has) become a point of inspiration.
I wish her luck in her recovery as well, but it's been going on for a long, long time, some people missuse a message of good and spin it around for their own sick benefits. It's been happening since Christ was nailed to a couple pieces of wood-if you believe that sort of thing of course.
| Originally Posted by Shimmer
I don't think this ad is for the women who ARE anorexic, Ithink it's for those who MIGHT BECOME anorexic. |
I totally agree, but unfortunately, she will (I'm pretty sure she already to some degree has) become a point of inspiration.
I wish her luck in her recovery as well, but it's been going on for a long, long time, some people missuse a message of good and spin it around for their own sick benefits. It's been happening since Christ was nailed to a couple pieces of wood-if you believe that sort of thing of course.
Shimmer
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Does one ever truly recover from an ED?
| Originally Posted by j_absinthe
I totally agree, but unfortunately, she will (I'm pretty sure she already to some degree has) become a point of inspiration. I wish her luck in her recovery as well, but it's been going on for a long, long time, some people missuse a message of good and spin it around for their own sick benefits. |
Does one ever truly recover from an ED?
j_absinthe
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Well, as someone who'se struggled with ED's, I can honestly say "no." Even though some may stop the rituals, the psychologally and physiology are already damaged as is.
| Originally Posted by Shimmer
Does one ever truly recover from an ED? |
Well, as someone who'se struggled with ED's, I can honestly say "no." Even though some may stop the rituals, the psychologally and physiology are already damaged as is.
aziza
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That's a great statement
| Originally Posted by flowerhead
I can see that point, the caption confuses me though. What impressionable dieters need to remember is even if the models with anorexia still have their beautiful faces (which they wont keep for much longer) they feel digusting, and are hideous on the inside with their bloated hearts and all the little holes in their bones...but there's always airbrushing to cover their sallow skin and protuding ribcages.. |
That's a great statement
Beauty Mark
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From what I've read, it's like alcoholism. You are still an anorexic, even if you haven't lapsed in years. I think it's the idea that you will always have that in you, even if it never surfaces again.
I personally hope that it changes how others react to thinness. I believe people in your immediate life have more of an impact than an ad or model.
| Originally Posted by Shimmer
Does one ever truly recover from an ED? |
From what I've read, it's like alcoholism. You are still an anorexic, even if you haven't lapsed in years. I think it's the idea that you will always have that in you, even if it never surfaces again.
I personally hope that it changes how others react to thinness. I believe people in your immediate life have more of an impact than an ad or model.
melliquor
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I think she is very brave for what she has done. She is to let women see what happens with eating disorders. I don't think it will help anybody who already has an eating disorder but it could make somebody think about what they are doing if they are on a verge of an ED.
Raerae
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Thats a fairly ignorant statement about people with Anarexia. Have you ever spent time with them? Have you gone to visit a mothers daughter who's in the hospital because she weighs 65 lbs? Or truly gotten to know who they really are as a person?
To say everyone with a ED (model or not) is hideous inside with a bloated heart is a really insensitive thing to say. And considering how smart, loving, and nice of a person the girl up the street from where my Mom lives is, who is truly suffering from this disease, I think it's pretty easy to say there is more to someone's self esteem and self worth, than how little they weigh on a scale.
If anything from knowing her, it's what's on her inside that counts, not on the outside.
| Originally Posted by flowerhead
I can see that point, the caption confuses me though. What impressionable dieters need to remember is even if the models with anorexia still have their beautiful faces (which they wont keep for much longer) they feel digusting, and are hideous on the inside with their bloated hearts and all the little holes in their bones...but there's always airbrushing to cover their sallow skin and protuding ribcages.. |
Thats a fairly ignorant statement about people with Anarexia. Have you ever spent time with them? Have you gone to visit a mothers daughter who's in the hospital because she weighs 65 lbs? Or truly gotten to know who they really are as a person?
To say everyone with a ED (model or not) is hideous inside with a bloated heart is a really insensitive thing to say. And considering how smart, loving, and nice of a person the girl up the street from where my Mom lives is, who is truly suffering from this disease, I think it's pretty easy to say there is more to someone's self esteem and self worth, than how little they weigh on a scale.
If anything from knowing her, it's what's on her inside that counts, not on the outside.
flowerhead
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Yes, like I've stated I spent time in a clinic after having heart palpations from not eating & I have a lot of friends I met in there with very different experiences of the illness, not that that has anything to do with a medical understanding of the disease.
And yes, they (and myself) are hideous inside compared to a healthy person, that's nothing to do with their character or intelligence :/ And people who have anorexia DO get bloated hearts, that's not 'insensitive', that's just a fact.
What are you talking about? I know there is, I've realised that myself.
You've mistaken my honesty on the matter as scourn, and I find it bizarre that you think my statement was 'ignorant'. Nothing I wrote was an opinion, it was all fact. When I had anorexia my skin had a lovely yellow/grey tinge to it, my heart to this very day is dodgy and irregular, I sometimes had little control over my bladder, there's no point in pussyfooting around these things to appear more 'sensitive' - hence the advert!
| Originally Posted by Raerae
Thats a fairly ignorant statement about people with Anarexia. Have you ever spent time with them? Have you gone to visit a mothers daughter who's in the hospital because she weighs 65 lbs? Or truly gotten to know who they really are as a person? To say everyone with a ED (model or not) is hideous inside with a bloated heart is a really insensitive thing to say. And considering how smart, loving, and nice of a person the girl up the street from where my Mom lives is, who is truly suffering from this disease, I think it's pretty easy to say there is more to someone's self esteem and self worth, than how little they weigh on a scale. If anything from knowing her, it's what's on her inside that counts, not on the outside. |
Yes, like I've stated I spent time in a clinic after having heart palpations from not eating & I have a lot of friends I met in there with very different experiences of the illness, not that that has anything to do with a medical understanding of the disease.
And yes, they (and myself) are hideous inside compared to a healthy person, that's nothing to do with their character or intelligence :/ And people who have anorexia DO get bloated hearts, that's not 'insensitive', that's just a fact.
What are you talking about? I know there is, I've realised that myself.
You've mistaken my honesty on the matter as scourn, and I find it bizarre that you think my statement was 'ignorant'. Nothing I wrote was an opinion, it was all fact. When I had anorexia my skin had a lovely yellow/grey tinge to it, my heart to this very day is dodgy and irregular, I sometimes had little control over my bladder, there's no point in pussyfooting around these things to appear more 'sensitive' - hence the advert!
Shimmer
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I think the clarification needs to be made that you're not saying that the people with EDs are bad people, you're saying that their self loathing (which brought them to the ED in the first place) makes their insides hideous, correct?
| Originally Posted by flowerhead
And yes, they are hideous inside compared to a healthy person, why sugarcoat it? |
I think the clarification needs to be made that you're not saying that the people with EDs are bad people, you're saying that their self loathing (which brought them to the ED in the first place) makes their insides hideous, correct?
flowerhead
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That's correct yes. Sorry if anyone mistook that...
| Originally Posted by Shimmer
I think the clarification needs to be made that you're not saying that the people with EDs are bad people, you're saying that their self loathing (which brought them to the ED in the first place) makes their insides hideous, correct? |
That's correct yes. Sorry if anyone mistook that...
