Small rant: The Beauty Review Bandwagon

[JULIA]

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Originally Posted by MakeUpGeek That's why I stopped responding on this thread, and why I will remain silent further. I gave my opinion, which I was entitled to do. If people wish to misquote / misunderstand my point...that's their problem.

And we are entitled to ours. This is an open forum, therefore you are sure to be met with oppostion. Feel misunderstood all you would like, but I don't think there is any room for misinterpretation with what you wrote here:

"THAT is what I have issue with - they lie about the quality of products, I buy them and bam - my skin pays the price. I doubt I'm alone in that."

It seems as though you're blaming gurus for your lack of success with whichever product you purchased. How...else is that to be taken? If there's any other way you meant that, then please do enlighten the few of us who disagreed with you.

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Originally Posted by MakeUpGeek But think on this - if you feel the need to attack people for stating their opinions...normally that means they have a point and you know it. It's interesting watching who is on the defensive throughout this thread - if we didn't have a valid point...why so defensive?

It doesn't matter if your opinion had any validity or not, I simply didn't agree with what you said and that's that. I don't get how people came into this thread not expecting for their views to be debated. The mind, it be boggled.

 

[TISH1124]

The thing that amazes me the most about this whole topic and discussions in general is...People get so bent out of shape because of others opinions...The thing I love about Specktra is that all opinions are welcomed...debate is welcome and discussion is welcome...This topic was merely a discussion of opinions...So for all the people who are so damn upset and in a rage about it...Why?
Other than possibly the truth hurts. So going outside of Specktra to bitch about the topic on blogs and twitter regarding member's opinions is irrevelant...post your disgust with the topic here if you feel it is so wrong and unwarranted. The thread is open for all to post, Specktra does not discriminate.
I have found the truth sometimes cuts to the bone....and only the guilty get their panties all in a bunch over a simple discussion of valid opinions. As they say Opinions are like Buttholes..we all have them...some down right stink and others not so bad...If the topic does not apply to you or your blog...why the hell do you care enough to be so upset and in a rage about it...Move on and keep doing what you do...we are adults here, right?

 

[cupcake_x]

I have to agree. With you and what Tish said in her first reply.

I actually prefer it when reviewers make a review on a product they don't like- that way, I know to avoid it. Whereas when they say they *LOVE* it, I'm not sure whether I will.

 

[frocher]

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[TISH1124]

^^^^ Exactly!!! Makes you wonder don't it???

 

[JULIA]

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Originally Posted by TISH1124 The thing that amazes me the most about this whole topic and discussions in general is...People get so bent out of shape because of others opinions...The thing I love about Specktra is that all opinions are welcomed...debate is welcome and discussion is welcome...

EXACTLY. I just hate how people are so unwilling to see the other side of the coin. If my willingness to debate was taken as a personal attack, then um...yeah...

 

[astronaut]

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Originally Posted by LeeleeBell LOL it would be refreshing to see "Stuff that sucks this month" vids from the youtubers once in a while That said, some of them do say, once in a while, when they aren't impressed... I have seen MissChievous and TiffanyD do that...Julia hated some dazzleglasses, has criticized a lot of MAC stuff...and Tiffany has said she isn't impressed with certain MSF's or MAC collections that come out.

I made a video once on stuff that I disliked and got so much hate! People for some reason got butt-hurt over me not liking something that they use! I was called a snob, have too high of expectations, and someone even had to add that I was "balding" on top of those because you know, that's relevant and all...

 

[TISH1124]

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Originally Posted by astronaut I made a video once on stuff that I disliked and got so much hate! People for some reason got butt-hurt over me not liking something that they use! I was called a snob, have too high of expectations, and someone even had to add that I was "balding" on top of those because you know, that's relevant and all...

No friggin' way.....that is crazy...you should have said yeah I am balding on top because the product got in my hair...But feel free to keep on loving it and all...So weird people are

 

[frocher]

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[frocher]

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[LeeleeBell]

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Originally Posted by JULIA It doesn't matter if your opinion had any validity or not, I simply didn't agree with what you said and that's that. I don't get how people came into this thread not expecting for their views to be debated. The mind, it be boggled.

Debating views is one thing. Suggesting that others "Get informed" in the manner that you did, sounded as if you were assuming we are ignorant and hadn't done that before we posted. You came off as though you were talking down to her/us and I don't think anyone appreciates that. I can see why she felt attacked and honestly, I didn't appreciate the way you expressed yourself there either.

You also seemed to assume, in another post, that because we had these sentiments, we were the ones posting negative comments in response to youtube videos...another post that could have easily been interpreted as a personal accusation rather than a debate on a topic.

 

[L1LMAMAJ]

i can't believe this thread has gotten so long. wow.

 

[JULIA]

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Originally Posted by LeeleeBell Debating views is one thing. Suggesting that others "Get informed" in the manner that you did, sounded as if you were assuming we are ignorant and hadn't done that before we posted. You came off as though you were talking down to her/us and I don't think anyone appreciates that...I can see why she felt attacked and honestly, I didn't appreciate the way you expressed yourself there either.

But that's okay, because I won't sugar-coat my opinion simply because some might get offended. I'm not one to tip-toe around people because they may not like what I have to say, why would I go and do that on the INTERNET of all places? However, if you go back and read what I said you'll notice that I wasn't even talking about anyone in the thread? It was simply a thought inspired by what whoever-that-girl-was said (username escapes me).


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Originally Posted by LeeleeBell You also seemed to assume, in another post, that because we had these sentiments, we were the ones posting negative comments in response to youtube videos...another post that could have easily been interpreted as a personal accusation rather than a debate on a topic.

Again, you are the one doing the assumptions because no where did I refer to you guys. I was referring to people in general, something you would know had you read this:

Leelee, I was actually responding to MakeUpGeek's comment because she made it seem that it was a guru's fault the product she bought didn't work for her...Everything I said was related to people who do the same thing.

So yeah, no apologies here from me.

 

[User27]

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[MAC_Whore]

You know what always works when things are on the edge of getting tense? YMCA | Specktra.Net

 

[LeeleeBell]

Good for you. Don't change a thing. I don't need an apology nor did I expect one. But if you cared to know where we were coming from and what the other opinions are that you claim to welcome/expect on message boards....there it is/was. You assumed it was debate/different POVs that were striking a nerve...but IMO that wasn't true at all. It wasn't debate anyone had an issue with in this thread...it was the feeling that we were being spoken to as if we were idiots. Clearly at least two people in this thread felt you weren't being respectful toward *our* opinion. If that wasn't your intention, I think you could explain that without getting defensive. And if it was your intention to be insulting, that's your prerogative and it's *our* perogative to say we don't appreciate it.


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Originally Posted by JULIA But that's okay, because I won't sugar-coat my opinion simply because some might get offended. I'm not one to tip-toe around people because they may not like what I have to say, why would I go and do that on the INTERNET of all places? However, if you go back and read what I said you'll notice that I wasn't even talking about anyone in the thread? It was simply a thought inspired by what whoever-that-girl-was said (username escapes me). Again, you are the one doing the assumptions because no where did I refer to you guys. I was referring to people in general, something you would know had you read this: Leelee, I was actually responding to MakeUpGeek's comment because she made it seem that it was a guru's fault the product she bought didn't work for her...Everything I said was related to people who do the same thing. So yeah, no apologies here from me.

 

[cupcake_x]

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Originally Posted by MAC_Whore You know what always works when things are on the edge of getting tense? YMCA | Specktra.Net

That is so adorable

 

[MAC_Whore]

Guys, since this has just come up, I would like to remind you of the Specktra review area where anyone can post a review.

All you have to do is follow the format listed in the first sticky post of the category. Type up that review and let us all know what you think of a product/tool. Please note that this is a moderated forum, meaning that when you post your review, the assigned mod must "release" it to go live before you will see it. This may take a day or two. I know that's kind of a pain, but we do that to make sure that the reviews are correctly categorized and formatted so you, the end reader, have an easier time searching and reading.

Aside from that, anyone can feel free to submit to Specktra's blog. Those posts have to be approved. Quite frankly, we've had some reeeeally odd posts that aren't makeup related appear, so I'm sure you can appreciate that.

Specktra is a community. It is all about you. Back to what Tish said a ways back. Specktra is a voice of many, not just one blogger/vlogger/personality. Not that there is anything wrong with those singular sites, I just want to point out what Specktra's mission is.

 

[User27]

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[MAC_Whore]

No worries. You weren't "stepping on any toes". I just wanted to remind the veterans and inform the newbies.