The 44th President Obama!!!!

[kimmy]

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Originally Posted by TISH1127 I personally don't feel more at ease...I do however feel..."It's About Damn Time!"

you may not, but alot of people do and, in my opinion, that's wrong.

i personally don't care what colour, religion, gender, etc the president is...if they're going to make my country a better place, then they'll have my vote. i just think it's a shame that all of our citizens don't think that way.

 

[TISH1124]

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Originally Posted by carandru There are plenty of people who wish we could get off of it already, including those being discriminated against. I would love to ignore my race and most times I do, but that doesn't stop someone from reminding me by treating me differently. And you are right, getting where you want in life isn't easy for anyone, but for those of us who face discrimination on a consistent basis it IS unnecessarily harder. I am not sure, but I doubt you have ever had to look a child in the face and grimace when they said, I want to be the president. You tell them they can be anything they want b/c you want them to reach for the stars. But in your heart, you don't mean that and you grimace b/c you feel like you're lying to them. And truthfully,Whoopi won't really be able to "put herr bags down yet". While this election shows a step in the right direction as far as racial equality goes, the country isn't going to change overnight in any aspects. So we'll still have to face the things we face and fight the fight, but I know I have new hope. It really is something that is hard to understand unless you have walked a mile in those shoes.

I totally agree with this because I have 2 older stepsons from my 1st marriage and when they were 17 and 18 I would tell them the importance of their grades and college...I would tell them they could be anything they wanted to be...even president one day...and they would look at me and say...YEAH RIGHT!! I would say you can...They would always say Mom, what world are you living in...Because they had never seen a Black President they could not imagine it ever happening...Now with my 6 y/o I can say that without hesitation and without him saying YEAH RIGHT, Mom, what world are you living in.

 

[kimmy]

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Originally Posted by carandru There are plenty of people who wish we could get off of it already, including those being discriminated against. I would love to ignore my race and most times I do, but that doesn't stop someone from reminding me by treating me differently. And you are right, getting where you want in life isn't easy for anyone, but for those of us who face discrimination on a consistent basis it IS unnecessarily harder. I am not sure, but I doubt you have ever had to look a child in the face and grimace when they said, I want to be the president. You tell them they can be anything they want b/c you want them to reach for the stars. But in your heart, you don't mean that and you grimace b/c you feel like you're lying to them. And truthfully,Whoopi won't really be able to "put herr bags down yet". While this election shows a step in the right direction as far as racial equality goes, the country isn't going to change overnight in any aspects. So we'll still have to face the things we face and fight the fight, but I know I have new hope. It really is something that is hard to understand unless you have walked a mile in those shoes.

there is no job in the country that can legally be limited to a single race. there are however, jobs in this country that cannot legally be attained by women.

i've walked plenty of miles in those shoes. i know how much it sucks, that doesn't mean i let it destroy me. that doesn't mean i let it run my life, because i don't let it victimize me. just because i'm white doesn't mean i haven't faced descrimination, it doesn't mean that i haven't been through the same struggles as any person of colour has.

 

[PMBG83]

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Originally Posted by carandru There are plenty of people who wish we could get off of it already, including those being discriminated against. I would love to ignore my race and most times I do, but that doesn't stop someone from reminding me by treating me differently. And you are right, getting where you want in life isn't easy for anyone, but for those of us who face discrimination on a consistent basis it IS unnecessarily harder. I am not sure, but I doubt you have ever had to look a child in the face and grimace when they said, I want to be the president. You tell them they can be anything they want b/c you want them to reach for the stars. But in your heart, you don't mean that and you grimace b/c you feel like you're lying to them. And it may seem like nothing, but it really means a lot to me that I can tell my future children and the children I mentor that and have tangible proof. And truthfully,Whoopi won't really be able to "put herr bags down yet". While this election shows a step in the right direction as far as racial equality goes, the country isn't going to change overnight in any aspects. So we'll still have to face the same things we face and fight the same fight, but I know I have new hope. It really is something that is hard to understand unless you have walked a mile in those shoes.

Well said!!!!

 

[PMBG83]

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Originally Posted by TISH1127 Whoopi never said she was uncomfortable with her life....Money can't buy piece of mind...Nor can money make people treat you as equals.

Oprah found that out when she went to that store in Europe didnt she?

 

[aziajs]

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Originally Posted by kimmy just because i'm white doesn't mean i haven't faced descrimination.

Correct.

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Originally Posted by kimmy it doesn't mean that i haven't been through the same struggles as any person of colour has.

Incorrect.

 

[carandru]

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Originally Posted by kimmy there is no job in the country that can legally be limited to a single race. there are however, jobs in this country that cannot legally be attained by women. i've walked plenty of miles in those shoes. i know how much it sucks, that doesn't mean i let it destroy me. that doesn't mean i let it run my life, because i don't let it victimize me. just because i'm white doesn't mean i haven't faced descrimination, it doesn't mean that i haven't been through the same struggles as any person of colour has.

I definitely did not say that you have not faced any struggles and I certainly did not mean to imply that either. In fact, that is why I elected to say those who face discrimination, b/c I am well aware that African Americans do not have a monopoly on that one. So I apologize if that came off as offensive or if you took it that way.


And just b/c you understand that you have to deal w/ discrimination does not mean you let it victimize you. It simply means you know you will have to deal w/ it. Point blank, end of story. Few people I know actually let this discrimination dictate their lives. They just know they have to work past the ignorance to reach your goals.

 

[PMBG83]

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Originally Posted by carandru And just b/c you understand that you have to deal w/ discrimination does not mean you let it victimize you. It simply means you know you will have to deal w/ it. Point blank, end of story. Few people I know actually let this discrimination dictate their lives. They just know they have to work past the ignorance to reach your goals.

We wouldnt have made it as far as we have if we had let it beat us down or dictate our lives. We just know when and where to look for it and most importantly be aware and ready for it and:

Watch
Assess
Initiate and handle it accordingly

 

[kimmy]

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Originally Posted by carandru I definitely did not say that you have not faced any struggles and I certainly did not mean to imply that either. In fact, that is why I elected to say those who face discrimination, b/c I am well aware that African Americans do not have a monopoly on that one. So I apologize if that came off as offensive or if you took it that way.

it wasn't offensive. i apologize if my statement made it seem as though i was offended.

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Originally Posted by carandru And just b/c you understand that you have to deal w/ discrimination does not mean you let it victimize you. It simply means you know you will have to deal w/ it. Point blank, end of story. Few people I know actually let this discrimination dictate their lives. They just know they have to work past the ignorance to reach your goals.

i wish i knew more people like that.

i'm just saying, that when a white guy gets elected if anyone said "right on, a white dude in the oval office!" people would go batshit over how racist the remark was...but it's okay to say "finally, a black man in the white house!" because why? it doesn't make it okay just because it's geared towards a different group now, racism is racism is racism.

 

[TISH1124]

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Originally Posted by kimmy i'm just saying, that when a white guy gets elected if anyone said "right on, a white dude in the oval office!" people would go batshit over how racist the remark was...but it's okay to say "finally, a black man in the white house!" because why? it doesn't make it okay just because it's geared towards a different group now, racism is racism is racism.

True but a white man would not say that because it is the norm for the oval office to have a white man in it...The reason Black people say it us because this is not a normal occurence and it is something new and long waited for. Not to be a racist statement...Just a meaning of finally...It has happened...

 

[kimmy]

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Originally Posted by TISH1127 True but a white man would not say that because it is the norm for the oval office to have a white man in it...The reason Black people say it us because this is not a normal occurence and it is something new and long waited for. Not to be a racist statement...Just a meaning of finally...It has happened...

i don't know. i guess there's a million excuses for it, and there's a million reasons why it's "okay," but to me it isn't.

 

[TISH1124]

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Originally Posted by kimmy i don't know. i guess there's a million excuses for it, and there's a million reasons why it's "okay," but to me it isn't.

Yeah it goes back to no two people are never going to see things the exact same way...diffrent life experiences and different self reasoning...Neither way wrong or right in the others eyes..

 

[carandru]

Kimmy, would you have celebrated milestone of the first woman vp if McCain had won? Just wondering.

 

[kimmy]

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Originally Posted by carandru Kimmy, would you have celebrated milestone of the first woman vp if McCain had won? Just wondering.

honestly, no. the colour, gender, etc of the person making the decisions doesn't matter to me...the decisions are what matter to me.

 

[TISH1124]

I will personally be overjoyed if we ever have a Female VP or President ...No matter what the color as long as she knows her stuff..I was hoping Obama would pick Hillary actually

 

[aziajs]

Okay, I have to say this as it has been on my mind...

I was watching Chris Rock's comedy special on HBO and he said America is a trip. If a Black person supports or votes for Barack it's because he's Black. If a White person does it's because of the issues. I laughed and shook my head at the same time because of how true that is. Now, there are some people who voted for Barack because he's Black but I think most Black people, in particular, voted for him because they thought he would be better in that office than John McCain. If it was just about having a Black person in that office then we would have seen President Jesse Jackson, President Al Sharpton, or President Alan Keyes.

 

[TISH1124]

Jesse Jackson, President Al Sharpton, or President Alan Keyes

Couldn't get my vote if I was paid to press the button!

Thank Goodness...JJ/s son is on to a better path!

 

[aziajs]

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Originally Posted by TISH1127 Jesse Jackson, President Al Sharpton, or President Alan Keyes Couldn't get my vote if I was paid to press the button!:lmaoo

Exactly. That is my point.

 

[Ruby_Woo]

Everyone faces discrimination and racism at some point in their lives. I do not think that you can compare them because to each person its different.

Its for example we have Black History month, and we have Hispanic history month, but you never hear white history month because it might be deemed as racist.

I don't think its right to compare who's been wronged the worst because, I mean how can you? whats the scale and how do you know who has it worst? because in the end its YOUR decisions that lead you where you are.

Because you are white doesn't mean you will automatically succeed and if your another race doesnt mean you will automatically fail.

Its on a case by case basis as I see it.

 

[SaturdayStevens]

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Originally Posted by kimmy yeah, that's true. it just boggles my mind why people suddenly feel more at ease now that there's a person of colour in the whitehouse.

I feel EXTREMELY more at ease because he's a Democrat and hasn't had his rich daddy take care of him all his life.

About children wanting to be the president, maybe its just me but if somthing hasn't been done before that makes me want to acccomplish it sooo much more. Also, you can't be hesitant to tell anyone that they can't be whatever they want just because they have no solid examples. Obama didn't have any examples either and look what he's done and what is ahead of him.

I think that we should forget about race here, and talk about what the majority of us face as WOMEN. Even though we are half of the world's population, we're generally treated as a if we are the minority.

-No one race gets paid more or less than others to do the same exact job.
-I know that "Mad Men" is just a TV show but that type of discrimination happened then and still happens now!
-I was on YouTube depending my opinions on something or other and someone implied that I was a man. I corrected them & the response I got was something along the lines of "I should knew your a woman. yak yak yak yak yak" (their spelling and grammar, not mine) Yes, they're are ridiculously idiotic but that is what a lot of men think.
-Also on YouTube is a ton of video about the objectification of women. Watch any one of them and you know exactly what they're talking about.
-Maybe not in the south but at least in the north I know that black men got the right to vote before women of any race did.
-Obviously there's more, but I want to go to bed soon.

Every group has had their worst days (slavery, holocaust, etc etc) but homosexuals are still fighting for their most basic rights. Plus you know that they're in every other minority group as well and have been victims in those same disgusting events. No other slur is used today as often and without consequence as "faggot" or "dyke". Its really the last prejudice that most people find socially acceptable.