GreekChick
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Haha! We'll never get over the pterodactly porn.
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Shimmer
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I have no idea. I freely admit impatience with what I perceive to be clear cut situations. It simply a trait I possess that isn't ever going to go away.
Originally Posted by SparklingWaves
There is something here that is actually triggering you subconsiously and it isn't me. |
I have no idea. I freely admit impatience with what I perceive to be clear cut situations. It simply a trait I possess that isn't ever going to go away.
wolfsong
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Very true - even when you think there is a victim (eg rape porn), almost always it is acted; the woman in these films almost always WANTS to be raped as this gets her off. Then it is not rape, and there is no actual victim.
Rape fantasies seem to be more common with women because a lot of men have been programmed to view this kind of fantasy as deviant and malevolent - and not what is it: just roleplay or an act that is usually not a turn on in reality.
Also you should add to this the whole 'submissive'/slave practices (BDSM). Being treated like a 'victim' is very different from actually being one. Whatever someones reason for being treated like a 'victim' (eg they were abused as a child) it doesnt prevent them from being a consenting adult, and being fully able to have an opinion.
And on this topic, a woman can rape a man (strap on/device for anal, or forced oral sex - in the UK at least, oral considered rape) so it is NOT always a female victim and a male abuser or the lesser thought of male-male.
| Originally Posted by Shimmer
Not every woman is a victim. Not every man is a monster. Not every woman in a situation is being taken advantage of by a man. There's not always a victim. |
Very true - even when you think there is a victim (eg rape porn), almost always it is acted; the woman in these films almost always WANTS to be raped as this gets her off. Then it is not rape, and there is no actual victim.
Rape fantasies seem to be more common with women because a lot of men have been programmed to view this kind of fantasy as deviant and malevolent - and not what is it: just roleplay or an act that is usually not a turn on in reality.
Also you should add to this the whole 'submissive'/slave practices (BDSM). Being treated like a 'victim' is very different from actually being one. Whatever someones reason for being treated like a 'victim' (eg they were abused as a child) it doesnt prevent them from being a consenting adult, and being fully able to have an opinion.
And on this topic, a woman can rape a man (strap on/device for anal, or forced oral sex - in the UK at least, oral considered rape) so it is NOT always a female victim and a male abuser or the lesser thought of male-male.
wolfsong
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Oh my...
| Originally Posted by Shimmer
Right?? Scat porn Fart porn Pterodactyl porn If any of you click those links and get mad at me for what you find, well...consider yourself warned. 
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Oh my...
Shimmer
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Because it's fake.
They're acting it out for people who have that particular fetish.
They're not really doing it.
They're actresses.
They were paid to perform a role for a film that certain people would enjoy.
Not every woman who has sex with a man on film is straight.
Not every woman who has sex with a woman on film is gay.
They were paid to perform a part.
They're actresses.
| Originally Posted by SparklingWaves
So, you are saying this couple are enjoying watching each other passing stool through a glass table? Are they eating it too? I have no doubt people are into watching things. Eating things of this nature as a turn on is highly rare. If it's such a common turn on, why didn't these women actually eat the real thing? |
Because it's fake.
They're acting it out for people who have that particular fetish.
They're not really doing it.
They're actresses.
They were paid to perform a role for a film that certain people would enjoy.
Not every woman who has sex with a man on film is straight.
Not every woman who has sex with a woman on film is gay.
They were paid to perform a part.
They're actresses.
SparklingWaves
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So, you actually attack/insult me and want to challenge to topic correct?
wolfsong
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Add to that:
Specialist porn usually pays more as few people are usually willing to do it/those that buy it will pay more than regular porn as it is more rare etc.
If i remember correctly women in the porn industry get paid more for girl-girl sex or anal scenes; and men get paid more for guy-guy scenes than regular girl-guy vaginal sex.
Specialist porn usually pays more as few people are usually willing to do it/those that buy it will pay more than regular porn as it is more rare etc.
If i remember correctly women in the porn industry get paid more for girl-girl sex or anal scenes; and men get paid more for guy-guy scenes than regular girl-guy vaginal sex.
SparklingWaves
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When I first saw this post, it just had "I have no idea". Then the other was added. What situation is that you are judging as clear cut? Me? = You even stated I attacked a poster. You claim to not see this as action by you as an attack on me and insult towards me. Why do you want to do that to me? Does that make you feel better?
| Originally Posted by Shimmer
I have no idea. I freely admit impatience with what I perceive to be clear cut situations. It simply a trait I possess that isn't ever going to go away. |
When I first saw this post, it just had "I have no idea". Then the other was added. What situation is that you are judging as clear cut? Me? = You even stated I attacked a poster. You claim to not see this as action by you as an attack on me and insult towards me. Why do you want to do that to me? Does that make you feel better?
dollbabybex
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to be honest im not certain wether they eat it or do it on eachother...
i dont personally know them,it was a friend of a friend
i was just saying its hard to beleive people enjoy that...but obviously theres a market for it!
but ive never said its a common turn on...i think its a very small percentage of people who like it,or even if they do and even smaller percentage who act upon it!
| Originally Posted by SparklingWaves
So, you are saying this couple are enjoying watching each other passing stool through a glass table? Are they eating it too? I have no doubt people are into watching things. Eating things of this nature as a turn on is highly rare. If it's such a common turn on, why didn't these women actually eat the real thing? |
to be honest im not certain wether they eat it or do it on eachother...
i dont personally know them,it was a friend of a friend
i was just saying its hard to beleive people enjoy that...but obviously theres a market for it!
but ive never said its a common turn on...i think its a very small percentage of people who like it,or even if they do and even smaller percentage who act upon it!
lara
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Welcome to the internet, I'll be your guide.
To begin your education in the world of Japanese porn, google 'eels up the pooper', 'tubgirl', '2 girls 1 cup', 'shota hentai', 'tentacle porn', and see what magic you can conjure up. Have fun!
Sparklingwaves, maybe you should take a break and get some fresh air. You're getting awfully worked up over what is essentially nothing.
| Originally Posted by SparklingWaves
I notice your location isn't in Japan, so what are you saying exactly? |
Welcome to the internet, I'll be your guide.
To begin your education in the world of Japanese porn, google 'eels up the pooper', 'tubgirl', '2 girls 1 cup', 'shota hentai', 'tentacle porn', and see what magic you can conjure up. Have fun!
Sparklingwaves, maybe you should take a break and get some fresh air. You're getting awfully worked up over what is essentially nothing.
wolfsong
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Sparklingwaves: I respect you and your beliefs, even if they differ from mine and other peoples (you have every right to express your opinion, but others have a right to argue it). Please dont get upset about a forum debate about faeces - of all things
- you'll get your 1st wrinkle!
lipstickandhate
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Unfortunately, there are too women out there who are victims. Much of the more fetish-y porn is created under duress, especially in emerging nations like former Eastern bloc countries, Southeast Asia, and Latin America (I believe this video ended up being from Brazil). I was personally shocked to learn exactly how hopeless and isolated many of these women actually are. While they may be technically "consenting", consent isn't consent when there's no other choice. Or when the other choice is equally as degrading.
Additionally, there are many, many monsters. I don't think monsters are gender specific though.
| Originally Posted by Shimmer
Not every woman is a victim. Not every man is a monster. Not every woman in a situation is being taken advantage of by a man. There's not always a victim. |
Unfortunately, there are too women out there who are victims. Much of the more fetish-y porn is created under duress, especially in emerging nations like former Eastern bloc countries, Southeast Asia, and Latin America (I believe this video ended up being from Brazil). I was personally shocked to learn exactly how hopeless and isolated many of these women actually are. While they may be technically "consenting", consent isn't consent when there's no other choice. Or when the other choice is equally as degrading.
Additionally, there are many, many monsters. I don't think monsters are gender specific though.
janwa09
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Just because such a fetish exists doesn't mean that people should indulge in it by creating a video of this disgusting act. It's true that some people get off with all of this grossness but I believe that these are people who have some kind of mental disorder who need to get help. Just as people who get off with rape, necrophilia and sado-masochism need to get help themselves.
QTAllStarGurl
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lmao i didnt look but i can guess...this is that stupid cup girls video right??? yah sum1 in my friends dorm showed me that video like two months ago and i was super grossed out b/c i was eating brownies at the time ewwwww!!
Shimmer
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Wait wait...let's leave S&M outta this.., k?
| Originally Posted by janwa09
Just because such a fetish exists doesn't mean that people should indulge in it by creating a video of this disgusting act. It's true that some people get off with all of this grossness but I believe that these are people who have some kind of mental disorder who need to get help. Just as people who get off with rape, necrophilia and sado-masochism need to get help themselves. |
Wait wait...let's leave S&M outta this.., k?
SparklingWaves
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Actually, you & I do share many of the same beliefs.
| Originally Posted by wolfsong
Sparklingwaves: I respect you and your beliefs, even if they differ from mine and other peoples (you have every right to express your opinion, but others have a right to argue it). Please dont get upset about a forum debate about faeces - of all things
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Actually, you & I do share many of the same beliefs.
NutMeg
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Ok, I'd just like to remind everyone that just because you're grossed out by someone else's sexual preferences does not mean that those preferences are sick, or wrong, or that that person requires help. I'm finding that the nature of this thread is starting to sound like we're attacking those who get turned on by out there stuff.
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I don't think it's fair to say that there is no reason for people with a fetish to make a video. Why shouldn't they indulge their tastes? Sure it grosses you out, but no one held you down and forced you to watch. Does some deviant sexual behavior indicate mental problems? Where do you draw the line as to just how weird people can get before you cart them off to therapy? When you think about it, the only reason we have sex in the first place is for pleasure (all of the times you've had sex, how many were just for procreation?), so why is it weird that people do it differently? Sure, I think playing with shit during sex is disgusting too, but some people find anal sex disgusting and that turns me on. So who gets to make the decision about what's normal and what isn't?
I agree with you that people who actually rape others or practice necrophilia need some help, but I don't think to have the fantasy or to role play the act indicates a need for mental help. And I don't think people who are into S&M need help either.
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Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but it's not like someone's desire to be treated like a victim stems from something as serious as childhood abuse.
I'd like to add to the above posters, don't feel like I'm attacking you.
I'd like for everyone in the thread to be able a cordial conversation about the topic, regardless of how sensitive it is. And yes, I find the thought of the video disgusting too (I haven't actually watched it and don't plan to), but that doesn't mean that I'm going to deny the right of those who enjoy that sort of thing to watch it. And all of the discussion/arguments I've made in this post are in the situation of consenting adults, not people who are being victimized.
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| Originally Posted by janwa09
Just because such a fetish exists doesn't mean that people should indulge in it by creating a video of this disgusting act. It's true that some people get off with all of this grossness but I believe that these are people who have some kind of mental disorder who need to get help. Just as people who get off with rape, necrophilia and sado-masochism need to get help themselves. |
I don't think it's fair to say that there is no reason for people with a fetish to make a video. Why shouldn't they indulge their tastes? Sure it grosses you out, but no one held you down and forced you to watch. Does some deviant sexual behavior indicate mental problems? Where do you draw the line as to just how weird people can get before you cart them off to therapy? When you think about it, the only reason we have sex in the first place is for pleasure (all of the times you've had sex, how many were just for procreation?), so why is it weird that people do it differently? Sure, I think playing with shit during sex is disgusting too, but some people find anal sex disgusting and that turns me on. So who gets to make the decision about what's normal and what isn't?
I agree with you that people who actually rape others or practice necrophilia need some help, but I don't think to have the fantasy or to role play the act indicates a need for mental help. And I don't think people who are into S&M need help either.
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| Originally Posted by wolfsong
Also you should add to this the whole 'submissive'/slave practices (BDSM). Being treated like a 'victim' is very different from actually being one. Whatever someones reason for being treated like a 'victim' (eg they were abused as a child) it doesnt prevent them from being a consenting adult, and being fully able to have an opinion. |
Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but it's not like someone's desire to be treated like a victim stems from something as serious as childhood abuse.
I'd like to add to the above posters, don't feel like I'm attacking you.
~Valerie~
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I pretty much agree with everything NutMeg said.
I also want to say that I think people are throwing the word 'victim' around much too loosely in this thread. To me, these girls are not victims of anything by being in this video. I think it's assuming a LOT to suggest they were forced, and I think the most likely scenario is that they gladly did everything the director asked in order to get the money and/or drugs in order to get by on the streets for another month. If you have ever been addicted to meth, for instance, I'm pretty sure I don't have to tell you what kind of previously-unthinkable acts you would do in order to get your fix.
I'm also willing to believe these girls did it because they get off on it. As NutMeg said, there ARE people out there who enjoy things like this. Why is that so hard to accept for some people? I think it's disgusting too but I'm perfectly willing to believe them if they say they get off on it. People like different things... *shrug*
Anyway, not looking to argue with anyone, just wanted to give my 2 cents.
I also want to say that I think people are throwing the word 'victim' around much too loosely in this thread. To me, these girls are not victims of anything by being in this video. I think it's assuming a LOT to suggest they were forced, and I think the most likely scenario is that they gladly did everything the director asked in order to get the money and/or drugs in order to get by on the streets for another month. If you have ever been addicted to meth, for instance, I'm pretty sure I don't have to tell you what kind of previously-unthinkable acts you would do in order to get your fix.
I'm also willing to believe these girls did it because they get off on it. As NutMeg said, there ARE people out there who enjoy things like this. Why is that so hard to accept for some people? I think it's disgusting too but I'm perfectly willing to believe them if they say they get off on it. People like different things... *shrug*
Anyway, not looking to argue with anyone, just wanted to give my 2 cents.
