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Raerae
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The same could be said for 90% of the opinion you post. Regardless of the fact that none of these discussions are moderated to keep them on topic. So it's no wonder your having a hard time keeping up.
Originally Posted by Shimmer
Actually, I was more referencing the fact that 90% of your posts lack anything close to relevant content or a point.q |
The same could be said for 90% of the opinion you post. Regardless of the fact that none of these discussions are moderated to keep them on topic. So it's no wonder your having a hard time keeping up.
Beauty Mark
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I get that, but what I don't get is the logic, because when I was in school, you were more likely to be teased for not wearing the cool item or wearing old clothes than you were for using generic crayons. Sure, we all envied the girls with the really fancy stuff (sometimes, that was me), but I don't recall anyone being made fun of for generic items. Clothes were the symbol of money, not supplies.
I have an issue not with your logic but with whatever school districts are enforcing it. Supplies like crayons and what not are trivial items compared to the fashion comparisons that happen.
| Originally Posted by Shimmer
It's one way of compensating for children who can't afford supplies, supposedly. :/ |
I get that, but what I don't get is the logic, because when I was in school, you were more likely to be teased for not wearing the cool item or wearing old clothes than you were for using generic crayons. Sure, we all envied the girls with the really fancy stuff (sometimes, that was me), but I don't recall anyone being made fun of for generic items. Clothes were the symbol of money, not supplies.
I have an issue not with your logic but with whatever school districts are enforcing it. Supplies like crayons and what not are trivial items compared to the fashion comparisons that happen.
Raerae
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I was merely referencing the fact that we spend billions on a comlpetely avoidable war, w/out question. And giving an example of where that money that was wasted by Bush Jr. trying to 1 up his dad's presidency could have been better invested.
| Originally Posted by Shimmer
Then why are you blaming the war on Iraq? |
I was merely referencing the fact that we spend billions on a comlpetely avoidable war, w/out question. And giving an example of where that money that was wasted by Bush Jr. trying to 1 up his dad's presidency could have been better invested.
Raerae
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Haha remember those pens with the little electric buzzy thing at the top, that let you write in spirals? LOL.
| Originally Posted by Beauty Mark
Sure, we all envied the girls with the really fancy stuff (sometimes, that was me), but I don't recall anyone being made fun of for generic items. |
Haha remember those pens with the little electric buzzy thing at the top, that let you write in spirals? LOL.
Shimmer
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Sweetheart, if I moderated this thread to remove the irrelevant BS you'd whine and cry to the site's administrators again about how you're overmoderated, then you'd go offline for a few days and pout, then you'd come back on and start your same old stuff. You've done it too many times in the past for it to have escaped notice that that is indeed your pattern.
You want me to moderate, you just don't want me to moderate YOU. There are several posts in this thread you've made that you made for no other reason than to be inflammatory. You've violated numbers 10, 12, and 13 of the TOS repeatedly within this thread, and were you moderated for it and your comments removed, you'd send an angry PM to Janice (again) about how mean I am and how unfair I am to you and how I obviously have it out for you, and then you'd send me multiple angry PMs (oh I still have those saved by the way) demanding that I return your post to its original position. We've already had this go 'round.
Instead of moderating the thread to keep you on topic, and removing the irrelevant blather, I'll let your actions speak for themselves.
| Originally Posted by Raerae
The same could be said for 90% of the opinion you post. Regardless of the fact that none of these discussions are moderated to keep them on topic. So it's no wonder your having a hard time keeping up. |
Sweetheart, if I moderated this thread to remove the irrelevant BS you'd whine and cry to the site's administrators again about how you're overmoderated, then you'd go offline for a few days and pout, then you'd come back on and start your same old stuff. You've done it too many times in the past for it to have escaped notice that that is indeed your pattern.
You want me to moderate, you just don't want me to moderate YOU. There are several posts in this thread you've made that you made for no other reason than to be inflammatory. You've violated numbers 10, 12, and 13 of the TOS repeatedly within this thread, and were you moderated for it and your comments removed, you'd send an angry PM to Janice (again) about how mean I am and how unfair I am to you and how I obviously have it out for you, and then you'd send me multiple angry PMs (oh I still have those saved by the way) demanding that I return your post to its original position. We've already had this go 'round.
Instead of moderating the thread to keep you on topic, and removing the irrelevant blather, I'll let your actions speak for themselves.
Shimmer
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Oh yeah, it's absolutely ridiculous. And, parents have to be willing to stop the schools from doing it. :/
| Originally Posted by Beauty Mark
I get that, but what I don't get is the logic, because when I was in school, you were more likely to be teased for not wearing the cool item or wearing old clothes than you were for using generic crayons. Sure, we all envied the girls with the really fancy stuff (sometimes, that was me), but I don't recall anyone being made fun of for generic items. Clothes were the symbol of money, not supplies. I have an issue not with your logic but with whatever school districts are enforcing it. Supplies like crayons and what not are trivial items compared to the fashion comparisons that happen. |
Oh yeah, it's absolutely ridiculous. And, parents have to be willing to stop the schools from doing it. :/
Trunkmonkey
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You know I think everybody needs to take a step back and breathe a bit. Oil and water will never mix. Even a monkey knows that.
A personal opinion Rae.. and nothing personal against you. I've know and know people all over the web like you wander into a cave and piss off a bear then act all upset that it turned out to be a grizzly rather than a pooh.
You're way left wing and a lot of people are way right wing and they're never EVER going to agree on policy etc..
It's a waste of time to argue about it.
So, umm, anyone got some fruit or maybe a fresh tick? I'm a little on the munchie side.
A personal opinion Rae.. and nothing personal against you. I've know and know people all over the web like you wander into a cave and piss off a bear then act all upset that it turned out to be a grizzly rather than a pooh.
You're way left wing and a lot of people are way right wing and they're never EVER going to agree on policy etc..
It's a waste of time to argue about it.
So, umm, anyone got some fruit or maybe a fresh tick? I'm a little on the munchie side.
Raerae
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Actually unlike you, there are times where I dont have the freetime to sit on this site reading every post everyone makes. Try getting away from the house for once, it's healthy for you.
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There is a difference between moderation based on your opinion, and moderating based on a set of guidelines outlined in a thread. You'd need a flowchart to keep track of every comment/sub thread thats going on in this thread alone.
Like I said, if you really want to have a formal discussion, with well researched and cited arguments with the object of convincing a objective reader of your opinion, we can have those. But until then, your going to have a difficult time.
Especially considering I'm responding to about 5-6 different people, and responding to their comments about comments on other people's comments which were comments on other people's comments it's not exactly far fetched to understand why I'm not trying overly hard to keep track of everything.
Just consider yourself lucky you have someone willing to keep you busy with pointless conversation. You scared everyone else away.
| Originally Posted by Shimmer
You'd go offline for a few days and pout, |
Actually unlike you, there are times where I dont have the freetime to sit on this site reading every post everyone makes. Try getting away from the house for once, it's healthy for you.
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| You want me to moderate, you just don't want me to moderate YOU. There are several posts in this thread you've made that you made for no other reason than to be inflammatory. You've violated numbers 10, 12, and 13 of the TOS repeatedly within this thread, and were you moderated for it and your comments removed, you'd send an angry PM to Janice (again) about how mean I am and how unfair I am to you and how I obviously have it out for you, and then you'd send me multiple angry PMs (oh I still have those saved by the way) demanding that I return your post to its original position. We've already had this go 'round. Instead of moderating the thread to keep you on topic, and removing the irrelevant blather, I'll let your actions speak for themselves. |
There is a difference between moderation based on your opinion, and moderating based on a set of guidelines outlined in a thread. You'd need a flowchart to keep track of every comment/sub thread thats going on in this thread alone.
Like I said, if you really want to have a formal discussion, with well researched and cited arguments with the object of convincing a objective reader of your opinion, we can have those. But until then, your going to have a difficult time.
Especially considering I'm responding to about 5-6 different people, and responding to their comments about comments on other people's comments which were comments on other people's comments it's not exactly far fetched to understand why I'm not trying overly hard to keep track of everything.
Just consider yourself lucky you have someone willing to keep you busy with pointless conversation. You scared everyone else away.
Raerae
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I doubt Shimmer is upset or bothered by anything anyone has ever posted about her. I know I'm not.
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Shimmer's not a grizzly. And regardless of our differing opinions on many things, I have mucho respect for her. I give her a hard time because she can take it. And while I have objected to her choice of modding in the past, it's typically on instances where she's equally guilty of doing the same. Monkey see Monkey do.
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Yeh but it's fun to discuss it. Even though we may not ever agree, you can learn a lot about a topic in the process.
| Originally Posted by Trunkmonkey
You know I think everybody needs to take a step back and breathe a bit. Oil and water will never mix. Even a monkey knows that. |
I doubt Shimmer is upset or bothered by anything anyone has ever posted about her. I know I'm not.
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| A personal opinion Rae.. and nothing personal against you. I've know and know people all over the web like you wander into a cave and piss off a bear then act all upset that it turned out to be a grizzly rather than a pooh. |
Shimmer's not a grizzly. And regardless of our differing opinions on many things, I have mucho respect for her. I give her a hard time because she can take it. And while I have objected to her choice of modding in the past, it's typically on instances where she's equally guilty of doing the same. Monkey see Monkey do.
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| You're way left wing and a lot of people are way right wing and they're never EVER going to agree on policy etc.. |
Yeh but it's fun to discuss it. Even though we may not ever agree, you can learn a lot about a topic in the process.
Shimmer
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You call me a monkey again, you better specify spydermonkey. They're the cute ones dammit!
| Originally Posted by Raerae
I doubt Shimmer is upset or bothered by anything anyone has ever posted about her. I know I'm not. Shimmer's not a grizzly. And regardless of our differing opinions on many things, I have mucho respect for her. I give her a hard time because she can take it. And while I have objected to her choice of modding in the past, it's typically on instances where she's equally guilty of doing the same. Monkey see Monkey do. Yeh but it's fun to discuss it. Even though we may not ever agree, you can learn a lot about a topic in the process. |
You call me a monkey again, you better specify spydermonkey. They're the cute ones dammit!
Hawkeye
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Unfortunately, it does appear to be a cycle.... :/
and earlier Shimmer you asked "who" when I asked someone to elaborate- I had not heard this about boys and girls being seperated and i wanted to know more info on that. I'm searching the web now- but I was asking Raerae.
Trunk-I don't think raerae is essentially a liberal and I can have about 50% of the ladies on here who will scream if you call them right wing. Me being one of them.
I'm more of a liberterian than anything.
But anyway- I think she is just arguing for the sake of arguing because that is just what she does.
It really has nothing to do with what political stance you are.
| Originally Posted by Shimmer
Sweetheart, if I moderated this thread to remove the irrelevant BS you'd whine and cry to the site's administrators again about how you're overmoderated, then you'd go offline for a few days and pout, then you'd come back on and start your same old stuff. You've done it too many times in the past for it to have escaped notice that that is indeed your pattern. You want me to moderate, you just don't want me to moderate YOU. There are several posts in this thread you've made that you made for no other reason than to be inflammatory. You've violated numbers 10, 12, and 13 of the TOS repeatedly within this thread, and were you moderated for it and your comments removed, you'd send an angry PM to Janice (again) about how mean I am and how unfair I am to you and how I obviously have it out for you, and then you'd send me multiple angry PMs (oh I still have those saved by the way) demanding that I return your post to its original position. We've already had this go 'round. Instead of moderating the thread to keep you on topic, and removing the irrelevant blather, I'll let your actions speak for themselves. |
Unfortunately, it does appear to be a cycle.... :/
and earlier Shimmer you asked "who" when I asked someone to elaborate- I had not heard this about boys and girls being seperated and i wanted to know more info on that. I'm searching the web now- but I was asking Raerae.
Trunk-I don't think raerae is essentially a liberal and I can have about 50% of the ladies on here who will scream if you call them right wing. Me being one of them.
I'm more of a liberterian than anything.
But anyway- I think she is just arguing for the sake of arguing because that is just what she does.
Beauty Mark
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I had a pen that had ten different ink colors to choose from. It was huge and cumbersome to write with, but I loved it.
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From what I understand, the concept is about female and male students not intimidating each other academically. Allegedly, it'll help females take more of an interest in science and math. A while back there was something about guys not doing as well in class and somehow that correlated to women in the classroom. It wasn't sexual distraction; either The Daily Show or The Colbert Report did some story about it.
You may scoff at that idea of this, but single-sex education is alive and well. I went to a single sex school; I didn't think much about it, honestly, and after going, I question its value. I've had friends who seriously believe that their college educations were better because they didn't have men there. I also know some women who have had very little interaction with males, because their entire education was single-sex. I know some women who damn near hate men, because they haven't been exposed to many and stereotype them.
Yeah, I know that's possible to happen in any circumstance, but I think by cutting yourself off from the opportunity, you are more likely to stay in that mind set.
| Haha remember those pens with the little electric buzzy thing at the top, that let you write in spirals? LOL. |
I had a pen that had ten different ink colors to choose from. It was huge and cumbersome to write with, but I loved it.
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| yeah here in ATL it's not that big either. Must be a new trend or a new way to "stop having peoples feelings hurt" after all it might hurt someone if there is a girl and a guy holding hands and they don't have an SO *rolls eyes* LOL |
From what I understand, the concept is about female and male students not intimidating each other academically. Allegedly, it'll help females take more of an interest in science and math. A while back there was something about guys not doing as well in class and somehow that correlated to women in the classroom. It wasn't sexual distraction; either The Daily Show or The Colbert Report did some story about it.
You may scoff at that idea of this, but single-sex education is alive and well. I went to a single sex school; I didn't think much about it, honestly, and after going, I question its value. I've had friends who seriously believe that their college educations were better because they didn't have men there. I also know some women who have had very little interaction with males, because their entire education was single-sex. I know some women who damn near hate men, because they haven't been exposed to many and stereotype them.
Yeah, I know that's possible to happen in any circumstance, but I think by cutting yourself off from the opportunity, you are more likely to stay in that mind set.
lipstickandhate
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Rae Rae-
I work as a prosecutor in Kings County, Brooklyn and before that, I worked in Richmond County, Staten Island. I could produce you pages upon pages about how ludicrous and tight our gun control laws are and pages and pages more about how any moron hell bent on getting a gun can obtain one anyway, shoot someone over a pair of Nikes or a crack pipe and then be rescued from responsibility by people with minds so open their brains fell out whining about how America is a culture of violence and we need tighter gun controls. If anything, we need tighter parental controls, but that is another story for another day.
Most people who take the time to go through legal channels to obtain firearms are responsible, thoughtful gun owners. Most people involved in gun crime are in illegal possession, DESPITE INCREDIBLY RESTRICTIVE GUN CONTROL LAWS. Idiots, not guns, are responsible for gun crime. And if you think making guns totally illegal will solve anything, see exhibits A, B, and C: drugs, child porn, and prostitution.
Finally, as passionate as you are on the subject, I hope you are seriously lobbying your legislature to impose higher mandatory sentencing guidelines for people who commit firearms-related felonies. In addition, you should be writing your local DA about why he or she doesn't vigorously prosecute multiple felons who are arrested again and again in illegal possession of firearms (Snoop Dogg anyone) and encouraging him to devote time and resources to doing so. And that is where the trouble lies.
I work as a prosecutor in Kings County, Brooklyn and before that, I worked in Richmond County, Staten Island. I could produce you pages upon pages about how ludicrous and tight our gun control laws are and pages and pages more about how any moron hell bent on getting a gun can obtain one anyway, shoot someone over a pair of Nikes or a crack pipe and then be rescued from responsibility by people with minds so open their brains fell out whining about how America is a culture of violence and we need tighter gun controls. If anything, we need tighter parental controls, but that is another story for another day.
Most people who take the time to go through legal channels to obtain firearms are responsible, thoughtful gun owners. Most people involved in gun crime are in illegal possession, DESPITE INCREDIBLY RESTRICTIVE GUN CONTROL LAWS. Idiots, not guns, are responsible for gun crime. And if you think making guns totally illegal will solve anything, see exhibits A, B, and C: drugs, child porn, and prostitution.
Finally, as passionate as you are on the subject, I hope you are seriously lobbying your legislature to impose higher mandatory sentencing guidelines for people who commit firearms-related felonies. In addition, you should be writing your local DA about why he or she doesn't vigorously prosecute multiple felons who are arrested again and again in illegal possession of firearms (Snoop Dogg anyone) and encouraging him to devote time and resources to doing so. And that is where the trouble lies.
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